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Scott in Montreal : 12/2/2019 3:38 pm
It has been reported on the French news here late this morning that Canadiens GM Marc Bergevin has been in contact with Bob Hartley about his interest in the head coaching job in Montreal.

Montreal's gutless owner who bows down to everything that the French press says and reports here is once again searching for a coach who speaks French.

I just cannot understand. What ever happened to hiring the best people who will get you wins? Not only does this limit the talent pool but gives validation that language and politics have a place in sports. Which they should never have.



Presumably the French media is educated in Montreal and can speak  
BestFeature : 12/2/2019 3:58 pm : link
English like 99% of the population in Montreal. Or is it for press conferences for some grandpas in other parts of Quebec watching on TV?
RE: Presumably the French media is educated in Montreal and can speak  
Scott in Montreal : 12/2/2019 4:04 pm : link
In comment 14700064 BestFeature said:
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English like 99% of the population in Montreal. Or is it for press conferences for some grandpas in other parts of Quebec watching on TV?


English is only about 10% with French being around 80%

That is not the issue for me. The issue is that a professional sports team limiting their pool of potential candidates to appease the media. I can guarantee you that most of the fans could care less as long as the team is winning.

Meanwhile you end up interviewing Bob Hartley.
Canadiens  
pjcas18 : 12/2/2019 4:10 pm : link
are a joke.

While I put zero faith in the rumors they're considering Hartley as a coach, or at least I hope they're not true, being French speaking is something that comes up too often for the Canadiens.

My hope is he's in Russia convincing Romanov he's ready for the NHL.

but people speaking French is rumored to have factored in to the Sergachev for Drouin trade, hiring the triplets (Vigneault, Therrien, and now Julien), trading Pacioretty (which worked out IMO personnel wise but didn't make the team better), and other decisions including playing players like Danault (who I like), Hudon, and others over other nationalities or even other Canadians.

I have no issue with pride in your country, but it's not helping them compete.

Attendance is down, spending is down, and the Canadiens have a ton of money tied up for a long, long time in aging veterans Price and Weber.

they are going to be a joke for a long time.
Surprised they're not going with Guy Boucher  
Anakim : 12/2/2019 4:13 pm : link
That's a French-Canadian name if ever I heard one
RE: RE: Presumably the French media is educated in Montreal and can speak  
BestFeature : 12/2/2019 4:55 pm : link
In comment 14700071 Scott in Montreal said:
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In comment 14700064 BestFeature said:


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English like 99% of the population in Montreal. Or is it for press conferences for some grandpas in other parts of Quebec watching on TV?



English is only about 10% with French being around 80%

That is not the issue for me. The issue is that a professional sports team limiting their pool of potential candidates to appease the media. I can guarantee you that most of the fans could care less as long as the team is winning.

Meanwhile you end up interviewing Bob Hartley.


But my question is what's the problem, why does he need to speak French? Is it for the non-Montreal Quebec that doesn't speak English? I was in Montreal in July and didn't meet a single person that didn't speak English in some capacity.
RE: Canadiens  
BestFeature : 12/2/2019 4:57 pm : link
In comment 14700085 pjcas18 said:
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are a joke.

While I put zero faith in the rumors they're considering Hartley as a coach, or at least I hope they're not true, being French speaking is something that comes up too often for the Canadiens.

My hope is he's in Russia convincing Romanov he's ready for the NHL.

but people speaking French is rumored to have factored in to the Sergachev for Drouin trade, hiring the triplets (Vigneault, Therrien, and now Julien), trading Pacioretty (which worked out IMO personnel wise but didn't make the team better), and other decisions including playing players like Danault (who I like), Hudon, and others over other nationalities or even other Canadians.

I have no issue with pride in your country, but it's not helping them compete.

Attendance is down, spending is down, and the Canadiens have a ton of money tied up for a long, long time in aging veterans Price and Weber.

they are going to be a joke for a long time.


Honestly, you replace "French" and "white" and you're basically the most contemptuous political group of all time. How is this not considered supremacy?
the French speaking  
pjcas18 : 12/2/2019 4:58 pm : link
thing is mostly for the media. they're a bunch of jackals and like most places help shape public opinion.

Fans want to win, almost 100% don't care if the coach speaks French or not.
RE: RE: Canadiens  
pjcas18 : 12/2/2019 5:02 pm : link
In comment 14700182 BestFeature said:
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In comment 14700085 pjcas18 said:


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are a joke.

While I put zero faith in the rumors they're considering Hartley as a coach, or at least I hope they're not true, being French speaking is something that comes up too often for the Canadiens.

My hope is he's in Russia convincing Romanov he's ready for the NHL.

but people speaking French is rumored to have factored in to the Sergachev for Drouin trade, hiring the triplets (Vigneault, Therrien, and now Julien), trading Pacioretty (which worked out IMO personnel wise but didn't make the team better), and other decisions including playing players like Danault (who I like), Hudon, and others over other nationalities or even other Canadians.

I have no issue with pride in your country, but it's not helping them compete.

Attendance is down, spending is down, and the Canadiens have a ton of money tied up for a long, long time in aging veterans Price and Weber.

they are going to be a joke for a long time.



Honestly, you replace "French" and "white" and you're basically the most contemptuous political group of all time. How is this not considered supremacy?


Quebec threatens to secede from Canada every few years.

they want their own sovereignty and absolutely consider themselves superior.

politicians and media especially, average citizens who I know not nearly as much if at all.
Dumb question  
lawguy9801 : 12/2/2019 5:06 pm : link
but English and French are both official Canadian languages. Don't all English-speaking Canadians get at least some rudimentary education in French, such that they can get by speaking French if they need to?
in other habs news  
pjcas18 : 12/2/2019 5:18 pm : link
Canadiens waived Keith Kinkaid (stupid signing) and called up 20 year old phenom Cayden Primeau.

Keith Primeau's son for you hockey fans.

RE: Dumb question  
Scott in Montreal : 12/2/2019 5:28 pm : link
In comment 14700202 lawguy9801 said:
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but English and French are both official Canadian languages. Don't all English-speaking Canadians get at least some rudimentary education in French, such that they can get by speaking French if they need to?


All Anglophones (English) who attend English school learn French from kindergarten to grade 11. I am fully bilingual as are my kids. Most of the last couple of generations of Anglophones are. Franophones (French) learn some English in school as well. Again it is only the last couple of generations that seem to have become bilingual. There are still a fair amount of Franophones that do not speak any English as it is not mandatory in the French school system like it is in the English school system.

The Allophones (new arrivals who have a natural third mother tongue language that is not English or French) are automatically placed in the French school system.

Separation is at an all time low. The younger generations tend to be more worldly and see the advantages of being bilingual and Canadian which ends up ruffling the feathers of the old timers who are still in power.

Needless to say. This who coaching and gm nonsense is only in hockey here. Our MLS soccer team does not seem to be in the same boat. Nor is our CFL team. This is a exclusive hockey shit show.
RE: RE: Canadiens  
Percy : 12/2/2019 9:35 pm : link
In comment 14700182 BestFeature said:
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In comment 14700085 pjcas18 said:


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are a joke.

While I put zero faith in the rumors they're considering Hartley as a coach, or at least I hope they're not true, being French speaking is something that comes up too often for the Canadiens.

My hope is he's in Russia convincing Romanov he's ready for the NHL.

but people speaking French is rumored to have factored in to the Sergachev for Drouin trade, hiring the triplets (Vigneault, Therrien, and now Julien), trading Pacioretty (which worked out IMO personnel wise but didn't make the team better), and other decisions including playing players like Danault (who I like), Hudon, and others over other nationalities or even other Canadians.

I have no issue with pride in your country, but it's not helping them compete.

Attendance is down, spending is down, and the Canadiens have a ton of money tied up for a long, long time in aging veterans Price and Weber.

they are going to be a joke for a long time.



Honestly, you replace "French" and "white" and you're basically the most contemptuous political group of all time. How is this not considered supremacy?

What do you mean? Sounds tribal, primitive. There's language and then there is race. They are not the same.
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