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CMicks3110 : 12/2/2019 3:51 pm
Moustakas to Reds
Profar to Pads
Mets talking Hader
Drew Pomeranz to Pads
Reds non-tender Peraza
Yanks interested in Treinan
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RE: Price  
pjcas18 : 12/4/2019 10:08 am : link
In comment 14702428 DanMetroMan said:
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on Hader said to be "massive". So the Mets will do this right? lol


Done deal. Hader and Braun for Matt Allan, Mauricio, Diaz (who rebounds to 2018), JD Davis and Gimenez. Plus the Mets will offer McNeil but the Brewers will feel bad, because of their Midwestern manners and decline taking McNeil too.

RE: Price  
Metnut : 12/4/2019 10:13 am : link
In comment 14702428 DanMetroMan said:
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on Hader said to be "massive". So the Mets will do this right? lol


Would Brodie do Conforto for Hader? Would the Brewers do that?
RE: RE: Price  
DanMetroMan : 12/4/2019 10:27 am : link
In comment 14702446 Metnut said:
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In comment 14702428 DanMetroMan said:


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on Hader said to be "massive". So the Mets will do this right? lol



Would Brodie do Conforto for Hader? Would the Brewers do that?


The Brewers are trying to cut salary and rebuild their farm on the fly. Conforto is projected to make roughly double Hader so I'd be stunned. I wouldn't do that if I were the Mets either.
RE: RE: RE: Price  
Metnut : 12/4/2019 10:29 am : link
In comment 14702461 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 14702446 Metnut said:


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In comment 14702428 DanMetroMan said:


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on Hader said to be "massive". So the Mets will do this right? lol



Would Brodie do Conforto for Hader? Would the Brewers do that?



The Brewers are trying to cut salary and rebuild their farm on the fly. Conforto is projected to make roughly double Hader so I'd be stunned. I wouldn't do that if I were the Mets either.


I'm not thrilled with it either, but we have a complete glut of corner OFs, especially if Cespedes is going to play next year. We might as well try to deal one of them and Conforto seems like he'd have good trade value.

What type of starting pitcher could we get for him?
the mets themselves have said they don't expect Ces next year  
Eric on Li : 12/4/2019 11:41 am : link
they are usually overly optimistic about things like that so either they are doing the opposite of what they normally do or there's a very small chance he has any impact.
Cole Hamels to the Braves  
Matt in SGS : 12/4/2019 12:45 pm : link
1 year/ $18M. Yankees were supposedly considering him. Not bad when you can get a veteran starter on a 1 year deal.
Love  
DanMetroMan : 12/4/2019 12:57 pm : link
that move for ATL.
Mets  
pjcas18 : 12/4/2019 1:15 pm : link
can't keep building a team to contend for the wild card.

either blow it up and go for it.

and go for it doesn't mean trade the farm for a closer.

it means open the checkbook, exceed the luxury tax (for a year) and field a team that can compete for the division.

right now they're at least behind the Braves and Phillies (with Wheeler on the Phillies).

And who knows how they will stack up against the defending WS champ Nationals.

They're likely projected 4th in the division.
this  
pjcas18 : 12/4/2019 1:15 pm : link
either blow it up and go for it.

should be

either blow it up or go for it.
I really think they missed  
Metnut : 12/4/2019 1:17 pm : link
an opportunity by passing on Bloom and hiring BVW. BVW basically capped out the team in one year and traded most of the best prospects away.

If we had a playoff team, I'd be OK with it, but it doesn't look like they are more than wild card contenders since they have no capacity to upgrade the team this offseason other than shifting deck chairs around.
just sucks we could have kept Kelenic and Dunn last year  
Rory : 12/4/2019 1:20 pm : link
and had the money to resign Wheeler this year (no Cano).

Kept Mcneil at his natural position

Still sign Familia/Ramos/Lowrie

And still be able to sign a Daniel Hudson/Betances or Moose
100% agree PJ problem is they made the decision last year signing JDG  
Eric on Li : 12/4/2019 1:22 pm : link
and purging half the farm so the only logical option now is to spend. And now they aren't going to. Rinse and repeat the life of a Met fan. We can probably write BVW's opening ST press conference:

"we are excited to see what Robbie and Marcus can do over a full season"

"we expect Edwin and Jeurys to be the players they've been their whole careers"

"Carlos is going to bring a fresh dynamic to giving our guys the edge they need"

"we look at Lowrie like a FA pickup since he didn't play last year, let's not forget he was an all star in 2018"
Mets  
TyreeHelmet : 12/4/2019 1:39 pm : link
It really is embarrassing that they will be 4th in their own division in spending/ aggressiveness. If they won’t even entertain resigning their own homegrown pitcher like Wheeler, what will they do? This will be repeated next year with Stroman and Noah the following year.

The only bad contract on the books is Cano ( and it’s bad) but that shouldn’t preclude them from spending. It’s shameful how they operate this team.
Mets being linked to  
pjcas18 : 12/4/2019 1:44 pm : link
Porcello.

I don't hate it, though they're being crucified on social media for potentially replacing Wheeler with Porcello.

Reality is though they replaced Wheeler with Stroman and would be adding Porcello.

If they sign Porcello - which is just rumored from what I know, the starting 5 of JDG, Syndergaard, Stro, Matz, Porcello would not be awful.

but it does not address the flaws of bullpen, defense, and depth - the gap from majors to next in line is wide with the Mets.
RE: Cole Hamels to the Braves  
Jay on the Island : 12/4/2019 2:15 pm : link
In comment 14702793 Matt in SGS said:
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1 year/ $18M. Yankees were supposedly considering him. Not bad when you can get a veteran starter on a 1 year deal.

Atlanta has been aggressive, They've added:
SP Cole Hamels - 1 year deal
C Travis d'Arnaud - 2 year deal
RP Will Smith - 3 year deal
plus they re-signed relievers Chris Martin (2 years) and Darren O'Day (1 day)
Perfect. Just perfect.  
pjcas18 : 12/4/2019 2:20 pm : link
Marc Carig
@MarcCarig
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1m
The Phillies have reached an agreement with Zack Wheeler, sources tell @TheAthletic
. The ex-Met stays in the NL East, and close to New Jersey, where Wheeler’s wife is from.
So funny  
pjcas18 : 12/4/2019 2:21 pm : link
one of the twitter guys tweeted out

the Mets trade Kelenic and Dunn to keep Diaz off the Phillies, but they won't sign Wheeler to keep him off the Phillies.
RE: Perfect. Just perfect.  
Jay on the Island : 12/4/2019 2:28 pm : link
In comment 14702970 pjcas18 said:
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Marc Carig
@MarcCarig
·
1m
The Phillies have reached an agreement with Zack Wheeler, sources tell @TheAthletic
. The ex-Met stays in the NL East, and close to New Jersey, where Wheeler’s wife is from.

Shit
.  
pjcas18 : 12/4/2019 2:30 pm : link
Jeff Passan
@JeffPassan
· 8m
Right-hander Zack Wheeler and the Philadelphia Phillies are in agreement on a five-year deal worth more than $100 million, sources tell ESPN.
Ugh  
Chris684 : 12/4/2019 2:36 pm : link
I'm hating sports right now. I was hoping he'd go to Minnesota, Chicago or San Diego, somewhere away from us.

The NL East was one of the best divisions in baseball last year and is only getting tougher. Hopefully the Nats lose Stras and Rendon.
Apparently Wheeler circled back  
Metnut : 12/4/2019 2:39 pm : link
with the Mets today but Mets weren’t interested in making an offer.
RE: So funny  
TyreeHelmet : 12/4/2019 2:40 pm : link
In comment 14702972 pjcas18 said:
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one of the twitter guys tweeted out

the Mets trade Kelenic and Dunn to keep Diaz off the Phillies, but they won't sign Wheeler to keep him off the Phillies.


I wonder why....

An ownership group that won't pay for free agents but will sacrifice farm talent any chance they can get. What an awful combo.
.  
Danny Kanell : 12/4/2019 2:45 pm : link
Wheeler got 5 for $118M. Oof
Cole  
mitch300 : 12/4/2019 3:03 pm : link
Is going to get a bundle.
fucking awful  
Rory : 12/4/2019 3:16 pm : link
I hated losing Wheeler but was ok with it if it meant he was going to Minn, CHW, or Texas....actually anybody but Yankees of Phillies.

One of my favorite Mets too, Fuck me
RE: .  
Mike in NY : 12/4/2019 3:19 pm : link
In comment 14703006 Danny Kanell said:
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Wheeler got 5 for $118M. Oof


I am disappointed that Wheeler is going to Philly, but I do not believe that he is worth $118M over 5 years. If it was that yearly amount on a 2 or 3 year deal that is one thing, but years 4 and 5 at nearly $24M per year is a lot of money. Also worth noting that he can be prone to the long ball and Philly is definitely notorious for being hitter friendly.
.  
pjcas18 : 12/4/2019 4:10 pm : link
Ken Rosenthal
@Ken_Rosenthal
#Angels have acquired RHP Dylan Bundy from the #Orioles, sources tell The Athletic. Triple A RHP Isaac Mattson in deal, heading to Baltimore.
4:03 PM · Dec 4, 2019·Tweetbot for iΟS
damn  
pjcas18 : 12/4/2019 4:27 pm : link
not much more prideful in free agency transactions to learn a player took less to come to your team.

And vice versa not much worse than learning you offered more and still the player chose elsewhere. At least you can't blame the GM.

Ken Rosenthal
@Ken_Rosenthal
#WhiteSox’s offer to Wheeler was for MORE than the $118M he will receive from the #Phillies, sources tell The Athletic. As @MarcCarig
said, Wheeler’s wife is from New Jersey, and that proximity was an important consideration in his decision.
2:51 PM · Dec 4, 2019·Tweetbot for iΟS
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