NFT: Knicks chat: so bad i may stop rooting for them

anything but the floor. not even catching the iron a little bit. My daughter was a better three point shooter when she was 14 years old. Sheesh.

lets play zone

to realize this team could beat us by 40 if they wanted.

when your whole offense is built on your fower forward dribbling and isoing, the offense goes to shit against good teams..

Please be the last game thos joke of a coach is here..

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to realize this team could beat us by 40 if they wanted.

middleton was laughing and looking at the bucks bench as he was dunking the ball..

and how quickly it has spiraled out of control.

Fiz, Mills and Perry all need to be shown the door.

In comment 14700558 Justlurking said:

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and how quickly it has spiraled out of control. Fiz, Mills and Perry all need to be shown the door.

i would fire mills and fizdale tonight..let perry be the gm until a president is hired and he can decide if he wants to keep perry

Knox is such a bum. Committed two cheap fouls early so he could check out and let someone else take the beating. Fucking loser. No sense watching - no Morris or Frank, both of whom would at least compete.

But I don’t really watch them. Keeping tabs of the kids progression, etc... other than that there is no Knicks. You HAVE to check out. They won’t win 20.

I mean this is historically bad for both franchises...seriously couldn't the average fan do better picking players?

Knox, Frank, Mitch...unbelievably bad picks....Oh, and giving away KP for nothing....

And they have 60 games left....think they can go 4-78?

Giants and Knicks are a combined 6-26....and the Mets last win was the same day as the Giants's last win, which means the Mets will have fewer days between wins than the Giants (assuming 2-14).....from their last game in 2019 till their first game in 2020.

Fun times in New York sports...

At what point does Fizdale call a timeout to...I don’t know...actually coach the team?

Such a lazy team. They do know that they can still play defense when their shots aren’t falling, right?

hit MORE three pointers. They smell blood and want to completely destroy the Knicks...send them home pondering life LOL.

I have since the early 70’s so I’m not changing at this point but it is beyond frustrating how bad they are. At least bring in a solid coach and play some defense and they would be bearable.

Almost fell off the chair laughing. Hopefully he'll work the same magic he worked to solve DSJ's three-point shooting woes.

Are completely unwatchable. They aren’t even competing anymore and they play the ugliest basketball I’ve seen in a long time. They don’t even run any sets.

Remember all that talk about toughness in the offseason? Team couldn’t be any softer. They don’t even play hard. I’ve never seen a more empty stats than does nothing to help you win than Randle.

I’m done watching for now. I want 2 things this season. Barrett to progress and flash. And this to become such a dumpster fire that Dolan has to fully clean house. Because nothing else matters.

Down 5-0 after the 1st period. Suffice it to say by 8pm the wife had her choice of tv for us to watch.

that the raptors are nervous ujiri is going to leave for the knicks...

Ujiri will be the new kd rumors

These fuckers don't deserve to wear a NBA uniform.

I wonder how many more blowouts can Dolan stomach before cleaning house? The three stooges actually tried to sell this shit as a team?

Somehow I am still more upset with the Giants as the Knicks have been both unlucky and incompetent.

a good shooting coach for barrett? is that to tough to do? You have houston just sittkng around doing nothing, how about he work with barrett..

How about perry calls in a favor and put sheed on the staff to work with mitch...

the team has endless amounts of money to spend to give the team whatever it needs, why not use it?

How about hire a coach that actually coaches rather than just talks and is here to appease the playerz..

Sign a president that actually knows what he is doing rather than hire a guy because he is a big name

LaMelo Ball could be our first round pick and he may be amazing, but that kid seems like an uber douche with a punchable face.

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that the raptors are nervous ujiri is going to leave for the knicks... Ujiri will be the new kd rumors

Yup we will be hearing it all season long. And I hope he’s right but there’s no chance Popper has any legit insight to this.

Can shoot. No shooters in this NBA means tons of losses.

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that the raptors are nervous ujiri is going to leave for the knicks... Ujiri will be the new kd rumors

Yea I keep falling for it.

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Can shoot. No shooters in this NBA means tons of losses.

their 6th in the nba in made 3s yet are 27th in attempts..

it is moronic, the offense and team is archaich

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Can shoot. No shooters in this NBA means tons of losses.

They put together a team with no point guard, no shooting and no defense and spent 70 million doing it. It’s actually remarkable.

Imagine being told 1 year ago that Taj Gibson would be a major player this year for the Knicks.

and foz is still not playing him in the 2md half..

and saw Iggy out there. I wonder how many shots he can jack up in these final 18 minutes.

Whatever it takes. Hell, get Presti. Get Morey.

Get somebody who knows what the F they're doing.

Is a great coach. Love watching Giannis and this bucks team.

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Is a great coach. Love watching Giannis and this bucks team.

they will never win though unless he consistently hits outside shots

Dolan is the worst owner in sports with the worst instincts. I’ve been a season ticket holder for the Knicks for 33 years and they have finally worn me down. I wish I could root for another franchise but I can’t. Thus, the NBA is dead to me.

fizdale is fired tonight, would be a good time to do it, have 2 days until next game..

Why is Fizdale allowed to keep coaching this team???? No one, I repeat NO ONE is getting better. Mitchell Robinson...4 fours in six minutes! How does this happen night after night? I'll tell you how it happens. We have a player's coach. No one has to fight over a pick...but they sure do like the coach. No one can shoot a foul shot...but they sure do like the coach. Every young player we have has regressed ...but they sure do love the coach. There is no discipline or accountability whatsoever with this team. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!!

I fail to see any resemblance to the 2005 Pistons

I also don't like this team,which you said I would

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LaMelo Ball could be our first round pick and he may be amazing, but that kid seems like an uber douche with a punchable face.

I’d rather Cole Anthony than LaMelo and his annoying dad.

pathetic watching a team that doesn't play defense

What the fuck does he do again?

and just leave them there

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In comment 14700591 Anakim said: Quote: LaMelo Ball could be our first round pick and he may be amazing, but that kid seems like an uber douche with a punchable face. I’d rather Cole Anthony than LaMelo and his annoying dad.

Seems like it's a four-horse race to be the #1 pick: Ball, Anthony, Edwards and Wiseman

An out of towner who travels to watch their favorite team has a terrific chance of getting a W.

Teams love playing at MSG.

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In comment 14700594 Carl in CT said: Quote: Can shoot. No shooters in this NBA means tons of losses. their 6th in the nba in made 3s yet are 27th in attempts.. it is moronic, the offense and team is archaich

100%. Fire Fizdale, hand the team over to Miller, trade Ellington, Morris and Randle as soon as you can.

only explanation for the way he coaches, he implemented a zone that gives up easy layups, offensive boards and wide open 3s...

In comment 14700881 nygiants16 said:

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only explanation for the way he coaches, he implemented a zone that gives up easy layups, offensive boards and wide open 3s...

I understand how bad this roster is and how poorly put together it is. But this guy is an awful coach. Hornacek and Fisher look like Red Holzman compared to him.

Fire Fizdale and Mills now. Name Miller and Perry as interims. Have the full focus be on developing Barrett, Robinson, Frank, and Knox in that order. Dolan should then declare he will find the best possible basketball mind to turn this around. Give him whatever it takes but this franchise needs a major and complete overhaul.

he lets players just iso, he lets randle and morris just iso whenever they want, Randle can be a valuable piece if used the right way, instead he lets him dribble all over the place..

The team should play off ball movement, there sjould be no one isoing..

How about running pick and roll with barrett and randle, with morris on the wing..

You are 6th in 3pointers yet you domt make it part of your offense..

Defensively it is a joke, you habe a good defensive backcourt with frank and barrett, why are you switching?

Morris is a good defender and gibson is a good defender, STOP SWITCHING..

and we could start over with an expansion team

this cosch didnt have a plan coming into training camp, you signed these guys juky 1st, yet it takes you all this time to set a rotation and gameplan?


Like what the fuck were you doing all offseason?

all dead men walking.

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Dating back to January of 2018, the Knicks are:
27-107

Yes, 80 games below .500

anyone who spends 5 minutes or 5 bucks on the Knicks deserves this. Empty the building. Ignore them until it forces Dolan to either step back or completely away. If any of you are big enough fools to think Dolan is a good owner because "he spends" you deserve this too.

I've noticed the Rangers are starting to have trouble filling the building and they're at least entertaining for a non playoff team.

the tourists who don't care about the team, celebrities who don't care abut the team, corporate/Wall Street folks who don't care about team, and the fans who are there to cheer for the opposing team, and the building would be mostly empty.

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the tourists who don't care about the team, celebrities who don't care abut the team, corporate/Wall Street folks who don't care about team, and the fans who are there to cheer for the opposing team, and the building would be mostly empty.

I dont know i was at the knicks sixers game and the place was rocking oretty good with defense chants...

What is the difference between a good owner and a bad owner? the men they hire, dolans biggest issue is he trusts the wrong people to run the knicks..

Was Wellington mara a good owner or bad owner?

How about the owner of the warriors?

It is just a matter of hiring the right guys, if he gets masai to come run the knicks and he turns the in nocks around does dolan become a good owner?

Sports isn't a lot of fun recently.

In comment 14701077 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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Sports isn't a lot of fun recently.

Any thoughts on the NBA having a brutal gear? Ratings down across the board significantly. It’s funny, because I’ve read that the NBA was going to take over the NFL as most popular sport.

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Love Uriji, heck bring VanVleet with him. Kid plays some fucking defense at least

In comment 14701131 TommyWiseau said:

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Love Uriji, heck bring VanVleet with him. Kid plays some fucking defense at least

This would be my dream offseason scenario. Along with getting Randle off this team.

yay!!

were both brought to Toronto in 2016: Siakam with the 27th pick, and VanVleet as an undrafted free agent. Within three years both were key pieces on championship teams and potential All-Stars. Siakam may wind up with some MVP votes. That's the type of player development the Knicks talk about, but never deliver.

Ujiri had the balls to move DeRozan for a Leonard rental, won a title, lost Leonard, and now has a 15-4 team that's a legit contender in the East. He's a maestro.

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were both brought to Toronto in 2016: Siakam with the 27th pick, and VanVleet as an undrafted free agent. Within three years both were key pieces on championship teams and potential All-Stars. Siakam may wind up with some MVP votes. That's the type of player development the Knicks talk about, but never deliver. Ujiri had the balls to move DeRozan for a Leonard rental, won a title, lost Leonard, and now has a 15-4 team that's a legit contender in the East. He's a maestro.

Dont forget he also got rid of a coach of the year in dwaybe casey for nick nurse..

Our youth and last three firsts Frank, Knox, RJB need to play and develop. Problem is they can’t shoot. In modern NBA you have to shoot. Dotson and Trier can shoot. They shoot a lot better than the other three and in my opinion playing more minutes would help this team win. So what do you do? Major Oroblem.

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Our youth and last three firsts Frank, Knox, RJB need to play and develop. Problem is they can’t shoot. In modern NBA you have to shoot. Dotson and Trier can shoot. They shoot a lot better than the other three and in my opinion playing more minutes would help this team win. So what do you do? Major Oroblem.

I agree that they need to let these young players play big minutes and let them struggle through it. Thats what this season should have been all about. But Trier is not a good player. I'm not even sure he belongs in the NBA. He has been horrendous this season when he played and might be one of the worst defenders I've ever seen at this level.

Is the player that (I might be in the minority) in my opinion will keep struggling cause he can’t shoot. His defense is suspect and he is outscored every night by the opponents 2 guard. I’m not a fan (I know young etc).

I’ll see you in the next game thread.

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I’ll see you in the next game thread.

yes you will

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Is the player that (I might be in the minority) in my opinion will keep struggling cause he can’t shoot. His defense is suspect and he is outscored every night by the opponents 2 guard. I’m not a fan (I know young etc).

His defense is suspect? really?

He is averaging 15 points per game, he is not getting outscored every night

In comment 14701147 TyreeHelmet said:

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In comment 14701131 TommyWiseau said: Quote: Love Uriji, heck bring VanVleet with him. Kid plays some fucking defense at least This would be my dream offseason scenario. Along with getting Randle off this team.

I would make VanVleet the #1 target this off season, though as always why the hell would he come here to this perennial dumpster fire no matter how much $ we throw at him.

but Cole Anthony is coming up on ESPN for those looking for something to watch. This is my first real look at him (besides YouTube).

The Knicks and maybe the Giants (obviously the Yanks) are probably part of the grand tour. So folks with no interest in sports really above a stop on the tour will go to one game a year, buy hats.

So, if ownership is into that model , they might not care about win loss as much.

There is a great thread past few days where the diehard Giants fans remember epic times in the old stadium and compare it to the soulless situation of today.

In some ways new york has become a disgraceful soulless shell, of a place, a super stop for museums and food and back on the tour bus or jet or helo.

The new generation of die hards are probably too busy and too poor and too tired and worn out to pay for and enjoy tickets and a game in person

it would never get as liud as it does, that mavs game would not have been as crazy as it was in that building..

I was at the sixers game and it was loud, tourists do kot get loud at games..

Its like my old girlfriends who are now fat and ugly. I'd rather remember them as they were in the early 1970's and early 1990's.

In comment 14700638 PhilSimms15 said:

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Dolan is the worst owner in sports with the worst instincts. I’ve been a season ticket holder for the Knicks for 33 years and they have finally worn me down. I wish I could root for another franchise but I can’t. Thus, the NBA is dead to me.

I was lucky and (unfortunately I payed the price of aging now 72...That stinks but I'll always have the 69 and 72 Championships.. lived inn the City then... I'm so old that I actually saw a few double headers in the old Garden.. Yep double-headers .... What a treat..