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nygiants16 : 12/2/2019 8:39 pm
this is awful, i am tempted to start rooting for a new team. How inept can you be?
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half of the threes aren't hitting  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 12/2/2019 8:42 pm : link
anything but the floor. not even catching the iron a little bit. My daughter was a better three point shooter when she was 14 years old. Sheesh.
and a great shooting 3 point team  
nygiants16 : 12/2/2019 8:44 pm : link
lets play zone
Took about .2 seconds  
ghost718 : 12/2/2019 8:48 pm : link
to realize this team could beat us by 40 if they wanted.


this is what happens  
nygiants16 : 12/2/2019 8:49 pm : link
when your whole offense is built on your fower forward dribbling and isoing, the offense goes to shit against good teams..

Please be the last game thos joke of a coach is here..
RE: Took about .2 seconds  
nygiants16 : 12/2/2019 8:49 pm : link
In comment 14700546 ghost718 said:
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to realize this team could beat us by 40 if they wanted.



middleton was laughing and looking at the bucks bench as he was dunking the ball..
amazing how spectacular this disaster has become  
Justlurking : 12/2/2019 8:57 pm : link
and how quickly it has spiraled out of control.

Fiz, Mills and Perry all need to be shown the door.
RE: amazing how spectacular this disaster has become  
nygiants16 : 12/2/2019 8:59 pm : link
In comment 14700558 Justlurking said:
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and how quickly it has spiraled out of control.

Fiz, Mills and Perry all need to be shown the door.


i would fire mills and fizdale tonight..let perry be the gm until a president is hired and he can decide if he wants to keep perry
I turned it off after five minutes.  
bceagle05 : 12/2/2019 9:03 pm : link
Knox is such a bum. Committed two cheap fouls early so he could check out and let someone else take the beating. Fucking loser. No sense watching - no Morris or Frank, both of whom would at least compete.
I’ll always root for them  
djm : 12/2/2019 9:04 pm : link
But I don’t really watch them. Keeping tabs of the kids progression, etc... other than that there is no Knicks. You HAVE to check out. They won’t win 20.
Who's worse...The Knicks or the Giants?  
dannysection 313 : 12/2/2019 9:07 pm : link
I mean this is historically bad for both franchises...seriously couldn't the average fan do better picking players?

Knox, Frank, Mitch...unbelievably bad picks....Oh, and giving away KP for nothing....

And they have 60 games left....think they can go 4-78?

Giants and Knicks are a combined 6-26....and the Mets last win was the same day as the Giants's last win, which means the Mets will have fewer days between wins than the Giants (assuming 2-14).....from their last game in 2019 till their first game in 2020.

Fun times in New York sports...
Knicks getting completely embarrassed...I mean, torched.  
PhiPsi125 : 12/2/2019 9:07 pm : link
At what point does Fizdale call a timeout to...I don’t know...actually coach the team?

Such a lazy team. They do know that they can still play defense when their shots aren’t falling, right?
Bucks are up by 30 points and seems like they are trying to  
PhiPsi125 : 12/2/2019 9:10 pm : link
hit MORE three pointers. They smell blood and want to completely destroy the Knicks...send them home pondering life LOL.
They are my team so I’ll always root for them  
steve in ky : 12/2/2019 9:10 pm : link
I have since the early 70’s so I’m not changing at this point but it is beyond frustrating how bad they are. At least bring in a solid coach and play some defense and they would be bearable.
I saw a video of Keith Smart working with RJ on free throws.  
bceagle05 : 12/2/2019 9:10 pm : link
Almost fell off the chair laughing. Hopefully he'll work the same magic he worked to solve DSJ's three-point shooting woes.
Knicks  
TyreeHelmet : 12/2/2019 9:10 pm : link
Are completely unwatchable. They aren’t even competing anymore and they play the ugliest basketball I’ve seen in a long time. They don’t even run any sets.

Remember all that talk about toughness in the offseason? Team couldn’t be any softer. They don’t even play hard. I’ve never seen a more empty stats than does nothing to help you win than Randle.

I’m done watching for now. I want 2 things this season. Barrett to progress and flash. And this to become such a dumpster fire that Dolan has to fully clean house. Because nothing else matters.
How about being a Knicks/Devs fan tonight  
Stu11 : 12/2/2019 9:11 pm : link
Down 5-0 after the 1st period. Suffice it to say by 8pm the wife had her choice of tv for us to watch.
steve popper has a report  
nygiants16 : 12/2/2019 9:13 pm : link
that the raptors are nervous ujiri is going to leave for the knicks...

Ujiri will be the new kd rumors
Can we send half the team to the G league?  
Jim in Hoboken : 12/2/2019 9:14 pm : link
These fuckers don't deserve to wear a NBA uniform.

I wonder how many more blowouts can Dolan stomach before cleaning house? The three stooges actually tried to sell this shit as a team?

Somehow I am still more upset with the Giants as the Knicks have been both unlucky and incompetent.
how about getting a good bigman coach for mitch  
nygiants16 : 12/2/2019 9:16 pm : link
a good shooting coach for barrett? is that to tough to do? You have houston just sittkng around doing nothing, how about he work with barrett..

How about perry calls in a favor and put sheed on the staff to work with mitch...

the team has endless amounts of money to spend to give the team whatever it needs, why not use it?

How about hire a coach that actually coaches rather than just talks and is here to appease the playerz..

Sign a president that actually knows what he is doing rather than hire a guy because he is a big name
You know what also would suck?  
Anakim : 12/2/2019 9:19 pm : link
LaMelo Ball could be our first round pick and he may be amazing, but that kid seems like an uber douche with a punchable face.
RE: steve popper has a report  
TyreeHelmet : 12/2/2019 9:22 pm : link
In comment 14700583 nygiants16 said:
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that the raptors are nervous ujiri is going to leave for the knicks...

Ujiri will be the new kd rumors


Yup we will be hearing it all season long. And I hope he’s right but there’s no chance Popper has any legit insight to this.

We just don’t have anyone who  
Carl in CT : 12/2/2019 9:23 pm : link
Can shoot. No shooters in this NBA means tons of losses.
RE: steve popper has a report  
djm : 12/2/2019 9:24 pm : link
In comment 14700583 nygiants16 said:
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that the raptors are nervous ujiri is going to leave for the knicks...

Ujiri will be the new kd rumors


Yea I keep falling for it.
RE: We just don’t have anyone who  
nygiants16 : 12/2/2019 9:26 pm : link
In comment 14700594 Carl in CT said:
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Can shoot. No shooters in this NBA means tons of losses.


their 6th in the nba in made 3s yet are 27th in attempts..

it is moronic, the offense and team is archaich
RE: We just don’t have anyone who  
TyreeHelmet : 12/2/2019 9:32 pm : link
In comment 14700594 Carl in CT said:
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Can shoot. No shooters in this NBA means tons of losses.


They put together a team with no point guard, no shooting and no defense and spent 70 million doing it. It’s actually remarkable.

Imagine being told 1 year ago that Taj Gibson would be a major player this year for the Knicks.
trier probably the only player who had a good half  
nygiants16 : 12/2/2019 9:42 pm : link
and foz is still not playing him in the 2md half..
Just flipped back to the game  
bceagle05 : 12/2/2019 9:42 pm : link
and saw Iggy out there. I wonder how many shots he can jack up in these final 18 minutes.
Get Uriji.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/2/2019 9:43 pm : link
Whatever it takes. Hell, get Presti. Get Morey.

Get somebody who knows what the F they're doing.
Bud  
TyreeHelmet : 12/2/2019 9:45 pm : link
Is a great coach. Love watching Giannis and this bucks team.
RE: Bud  
nygiants16 : 12/2/2019 9:47 pm : link
In comment 14700624 TyreeHelmet said:
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Is a great coach. Love watching Giannis and this bucks team.


they will never win though unless he consistently hits outside shots
The man Dolan trusts the most...  
bceagle05 : 12/2/2019 9:53 pm : link
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Knicks Film School
@NYKFilmSchool

Steve Mills on September 30:

“There were a lot of max type players that we could have met with, that were interested in coming here. We had a certain way that we wanted to build this team.

This is how we chose to build it.”
The Knicks are a lost cause  
PhilSimms15 : 12/2/2019 9:57 pm : link
Dolan is the worst owner in sports with the worst instincts. I’ve been a season ticket holder for the Knicks for 33 years and they have finally worn me down. I wish I could root for another franchise but I can’t. Thus, the NBA is dead to me.
I am staying up in hopes  
nygiants16 : 12/2/2019 10:03 pm : link
fizdale is fired tonight, would be a good time to do it, have 2 days until next game..
What are we doing???????  
Chris L. : 12/2/2019 10:04 pm : link
Why is Fizdale allowed to keep coaching this team???? No one, I repeat NO ONE is getting better. Mitchell Robinson...4 fours in six minutes! How does this happen night after night? I'll tell you how it happens. We have a player's coach. No one has to fight over a pick...but they sure do like the coach. No one can shoot a foul shot...but they sure do like the coach. Every young player we have has regressed ...but they sure do love the coach. There is no discipline or accountability whatsoever with this team. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!!
Well,I gotta be honest Steve  
ghost718 : 12/2/2019 10:04 pm : link
I fail to see any resemblance to the 2005 Pistons

I also don't like this team,which you said I would
RE: You know what also would suck?  
nyjuggernaut2 : 12/2/2019 10:10 pm : link
In comment 14700591 Anakim said:
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LaMelo Ball could be our first round pick and he may be amazing, but that kid seems like an uber douche with a punchable face.


I’d rather Cole Anthony than LaMelo and his annoying dad.
Knicks need to start by building a team that can play defense  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 12/2/2019 10:15 pm : link
pathetic watching a team that doesn't play defense
Hey Allan Houston is here!  
bceagle05 : 12/2/2019 10:17 pm : link
What the fuck does he do again?
they should cancel the flight back  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 12/2/2019 10:25 pm : link
and just leave them there
RE: RE: You know what also would suck?  
Anakim : 12/2/2019 10:33 pm : link
In comment 14700655 nyjuggernaut2 said:
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In comment 14700591 Anakim said:


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LaMelo Ball could be our first round pick and he may be amazing, but that kid seems like an uber douche with a punchable face.



I’d rather Cole Anthony than LaMelo and his annoying dad.


Seems like it's a four-horse race to be the #1 pick: Ball, Anthony, Edwards and Wiseman
.  
bceagle05 : 12/2/2019 10:56 pm : link
Knicks are great for NYC tourism  
GiantsUA : 12/3/2019 7:39 am : link
An out of towner who travels to watch their favorite team has a terrific chance of getting a W.

Teams love playing at MSG.

RE: RE: We just don’t have anyone who  
Heisenberg : 12/3/2019 8:00 am : link
In comment 14700598 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 14700594 Carl in CT said:


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Can shoot. No shooters in this NBA means tons of losses.



their 6th in the nba in made 3s yet are 27th in attempts..

it is moronic, the offense and team is archaich


100%. Fire Fizdale, hand the team over to Miller, trade Ellington, Morris and Randle as soon as you can.
Maybe Fizdale thinks they are still tanking  
nygiants16 : 12/3/2019 8:58 am : link
only explanation for the way he coaches, he implemented a zone that gives up easy layups, offensive boards and wide open 3s...

RE: Maybe Fizdale thinks they are still tanking  
TyreeHelmet : 12/3/2019 9:50 am : link
In comment 14700881 nygiants16 said:
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only explanation for the way he coaches, he implemented a zone that gives up easy layups, offensive boards and wide open 3s...


I understand how bad this roster is and how poorly put together it is. But this guy is an awful coach. Hornacek and Fisher look like Red Holzman compared to him.

Fire Fizdale and Mills now. Name Miller and Perry as interims. Have the full focus be on developing Barrett, Robinson, Frank, and Knox in that order. Dolan should then declare he will find the best possible basketball mind to turn this around. Give him whatever it takes but this franchise needs a major and complete overhaul.
My biggest issue with Fizdale  
nygiants16 : 12/3/2019 10:22 am : link
he lets players just iso, he lets randle and morris just iso whenever they want, Randle can be a valuable piece if used the right way, instead he lets him dribble all over the place..

The team should play off ball movement, there sjould be no one isoing..

How about running pick and roll with barrett and randle, with morris on the wing..

You are 6th in 3pointers yet you domt make it part of your offense..

Defensively it is a joke, you habe a good defensive backcourt with frank and barrett, why are you switching?

Morris is a good defender and gibson is a good defender, STOP SWITCHING..
maybe someone could convince Dolan to move the team to Seattle  
Greg from LI : 12/3/2019 10:25 am : link
and we could start over with an expansion team
and it is amazing  
nygiants16 : 12/3/2019 10:28 am : link
this cosch didnt have a plan coming into training camp, you signed these guys juky 1st, yet it takes you all this time to set a rotation and gameplan?


Like what the fuck were you doing all offseason?
They're  
Jon in NYC : 12/3/2019 10:42 am : link
all dead men walking.
...  
DanMetroMan : 12/3/2019 10:57 am : link
Tommy Beer
@TommyBeer
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Dating back to January of 2018, the Knicks are:
27-107

Yes, 80 games below .500
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