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NFT: Knicks chat: so bad i may stop rooting for them

nygiants16 : 12/2/2019 8:39 pm
this is awful, i am tempted to start rooting for a new team. How inept can you be?
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And yet the suckers continue to pack Dolan's building  
arniefez : 12/3/2019 11:14 am : link
anyone who spends 5 minutes or 5 bucks on the Knicks deserves this. Empty the building. Ignore them until it forces Dolan to either step back or completely away. If any of you are big enough fools to think Dolan is a good owner because "he spends" you deserve this too.

I've noticed the Rangers are starting to have trouble filling the building and they're at least entertaining for a non playoff team.
Take away  
bceagle05 : 12/3/2019 11:30 am : link
the tourists who don't care about the team, celebrities who don't care abut the team, corporate/Wall Street folks who don't care about team, and the fans who are there to cheer for the opposing team, and the building would be mostly empty.
RE: Take away  
nygiants16 : 12/3/2019 11:33 am : link
In comment 14701069 bceagle05 said:
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the tourists who don't care about the team, celebrities who don't care abut the team, corporate/Wall Street folks who don't care about team, and the fans who are there to cheer for the opposing team, and the building would be mostly empty.


I dont know i was at the knicks sixers game and the place was rocking oretty good with defense chants...

What is the difference between a good owner and a bad owner? the men they hire, dolans biggest issue is he trusts the wrong people to run the knicks..

Was Wellington mara a good owner or bad owner?

How about the owner of the warriors?

It is just a matter of hiring the right guys, if he gets masai to come run the knicks and he turns the in nocks around does dolan become a good owner?
Between the Giants & Knicks man...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/3/2019 11:34 am : link
Sports isn't a lot of fun recently.
RE: Between the Giants & Knicks man...  
Sean : 12/3/2019 11:40 am : link
In comment 14701077 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Sports isn't a lot of fun recently.


Any thoughts on the NBA having a brutal gear? Ratings down across the board significantly. It’s funny, because I’ve read that the NBA was going to take over the NFL as most popular sport.
*year  
Sean : 12/3/2019 11:40 am : link
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I would  
TommyWiseau : 12/3/2019 12:10 pm : link
Love Uriji, heck bring VanVleet with him. Kid plays some fucking defense at least
RE: I would  
TyreeHelmet : 12/3/2019 12:22 pm : link
In comment 14701131 TommyWiseau said:
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Love Uriji, heck bring VanVleet with him. Kid plays some fucking defense at least


This would be my dream offseason scenario. Along with getting Randle off this team.
Ujiri the new KD dream  
nygiants16 : 12/3/2019 12:27 pm : link
yay!!
Siakam and VanVleet  
bceagle05 : 12/3/2019 12:31 pm : link
were both brought to Toronto in 2016: Siakam with the 27th pick, and VanVleet as an undrafted free agent. Within three years both were key pieces on championship teams and potential All-Stars. Siakam may wind up with some MVP votes. That's the type of player development the Knicks talk about, but never deliver.

Ujiri had the balls to move DeRozan for a Leonard rental, won a title, lost Leonard, and now has a 15-4 team that's a legit contender in the East. He's a maestro.
RE: Siakam and VanVleet  
nygiants16 : 12/3/2019 12:49 pm : link
In comment 14701159 bceagle05 said:
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were both brought to Toronto in 2016: Siakam with the 27th pick, and VanVleet as an undrafted free agent. Within three years both were key pieces on championship teams and potential All-Stars. Siakam may wind up with some MVP votes. That's the type of player development the Knicks talk about, but never deliver.

Ujiri had the balls to move DeRozan for a Leonard rental, won a title, lost Leonard, and now has a 15-4 team that's a legit contender in the East. He's a maestro.


Dont forget he also got rid of a coach of the year in dwaybe casey for nick nurse..
We are screwed and I’ll tell you why  
Carl in CT : 12/3/2019 12:50 pm : link
Our youth and last three firsts Frank, Knox, RJB need to play and develop. Problem is they can’t shoot. In modern NBA you have to shoot. Dotson and Trier can shoot. They shoot a lot better than the other three and in my opinion playing more minutes would help this team win. So what do you do? Major Oroblem.
RE: We are screwed and I’ll tell you why  
TyreeHelmet : 12/3/2019 12:55 pm : link
In comment 14701188 Carl in CT said:
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Our youth and last three firsts Frank, Knox, RJB need to play and develop. Problem is they can’t shoot. In modern NBA you have to shoot. Dotson and Trier can shoot. They shoot a lot better than the other three and in my opinion playing more minutes would help this team win. So what do you do? Major Oroblem.


I agree that they need to let these young players play big minutes and let them struggle through it. Thats what this season should have been all about. But Trier is not a good player. I'm not even sure he belongs in the NBA. He has been horrendous this season when he played and might be one of the worst defenders I've ever seen at this level.

RJB  
Carl in CT : 12/3/2019 1:18 pm : link
Is the player that (I might be in the minority) in my opinion will keep struggling cause he can’t shoot. His defense is suspect and he is outscored every night by the opponents 2 guard. I’m not a fan (I know young etc).
Lol at OP  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/3/2019 1:20 pm : link
I’ll see you in the next game thread.
RE: Lol at OP  
nygiants16 : 12/3/2019 1:51 pm : link
In comment 14701213 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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I’ll see you in the next game thread.


yes you will
RE: RJB  
nygiants16 : 12/3/2019 1:53 pm : link
In comment 14701209 Carl in CT said:
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Is the player that (I might be in the minority) in my opinion will keep struggling cause he can’t shoot. His defense is suspect and he is outscored every night by the opponents 2 guard. I’m not a fan (I know young etc).


His defense is suspect? really?

He is averaging 15 points per game, he is not getting outscored every night
RE: RE: I would  
Stu11 : 12/3/2019 2:59 pm : link
In comment 14701147 TyreeHelmet said:
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In comment 14701131 TommyWiseau said:


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Love Uriji, heck bring VanVleet with him. Kid plays some fucking defense at least



This would be my dream offseason scenario. Along with getting Randle off this team.

I would make VanVleet the #1 target this off season, though as always why the hell would he come here to this perennial dumpster fire no matter how much $ we throw at him.
Didn't want to start a new discussion  
bceagle05 : 12/4/2019 9:23 pm : link
but Cole Anthony is coming up on ESPN for those looking for something to watch. This is my first real look at him (besides YouTube).
Part of the problem is that  
idiotsavant : 12/5/2019 9:46 am : link
The Knicks and maybe the Giants (obviously the Yanks) are probably part of the grand tour. So folks with no interest in sports really above a stop on the tour will go to one game a year, buy hats.

So, if ownership is into that model , they might not care about win loss as much.

There is a great thread past few days where the diehard Giants fans remember epic times in the old stadium and compare it to the soulless situation of today.

In some ways new york has become a disgraceful soulless shell, of a place, a super stop for museums and food and back on the tour bus or jet or helo.

The new generation of die hards are probably too busy and too poor and too tired and worn out to pay for and enjoy tickets and a game in person
If it was just tourists filling the building  
nygiants16 : 12/5/2019 11:14 am : link
it would never get as liud as it does, that mavs game would not have been as crazy as it was in that building..

I was at the sixers game and it was loud, tourists do kot get loud at games..
LOl - I stopped watching the Knicks years ago  
PatersonPlank : 12/5/2019 11:19 am : link
Its like my old girlfriends who are now fat and ugly. I'd rather remember them as they were in the early 1970's and early 1990's.
RE: The Knicks are a lost cause  
buster : 12/5/2019 1:52 pm : link
In comment 14700638 PhilSimms15 said:
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Dolan is the worst owner in sports with the worst instincts. I’ve been a season ticket holder for the Knicks for 33 years and they have finally worn me down. I wish I could root for another franchise but I can’t. Thus, the NBA is dead to me.


I was lucky and (unfortunately I payed the price of aging now 72...That stinks but I'll always have the 69 and 72 Championships.. lived inn the City then... I'm so old that I actually saw a few double headers in the old Garden.. Yep double-headers .... What a treat..
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