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Wow this article is spot on

viggie : 12/2/2019 9:43 pm
This article is scathing
Giants are the laughing stock - ( New Window )
gee there isnt a thread about this already troll  
Torrag : 12/2/2019 9:45 pm : link
/delete account
Not much to argue there but can people stop sucking off  
robbieballs2003 : 12/2/2019 9:47 pm : link
Louis Riddick? He wanted Haskins over Jones. That alone would have negated any potential positives in other areas over Gettleman.
RE: Not much to argue there but can people stop sucking off  
Josh in the City : 12/2/2019 9:52 pm : link
In comment 14700629 robbieballs2003 said:
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Louis Riddick? He wanted Haskins over Jones. That alone would have negated any potential positives in other areas over Gettleman.

LOL less than one season into their nfl careers you’re adamant about declaring jones the better player? Get off your high horse. They both have a long way to go before they’re anywhere close to winning caliber QBs.
RE: RE: Not much to argue there but can people stop sucking off  
Justlurking : 12/2/2019 9:55 pm : link
In comment 14700633 Josh in the City said:
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Louis Riddick? He wanted Haskins over Jones. That alone would have negated any potential positives in other areas over Gettleman.


LOL less than one season into their nfl careers you’re adamant about declaring jones the better player? Get off your high horse. They both have a long way to go before they’re anywhere close to winning caliber QBs.


wouldn't have been a choice - he would've ripped off the band-aid and taken darnold in 2018.
Pretty fair assessment  
TD : 12/2/2019 10:02 pm : link
There are a lot of fingerprints on this disaster.

Add Coughlin to the list. He was part of the talent evaluation snd lobbied hard for guys like Flowers.
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Nine-Tails : 12/2/2019 10:05 pm : link
In comment 14700636 Justlurking said:
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Louis Riddick? He wanted Haskins over Jones. That alone would have negated any potential positives in other areas over Gettleman.


LOL less than one season into their nfl careers you’re adamant about declaring jones the better player? Get off your high horse. They both have a long way to go before they’re anywhere close to winning caliber QBs.



wouldn't have been a choice - he would've ripped off the band-aid and taken darnold in 2018.


Nope, he’s on record saying he would’ve taken Barkley or Chubb
but but but  
huygens20 : 12/2/2019 10:06 pm : link
we hired the adults in the room!!!

Gettlehog
and
Shurmur
RE: RE: Not much to argue there but can people stop sucking off  
robbieballs2003 : 12/2/2019 10:15 pm : link
In comment 14700633 Josh in the City said:
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Louis Riddick? He wanted Haskins over Jones. That alone would have negated any potential positives in other areas over Gettleman.


LOL less than one season into their nfl careers you’re adamant about declaring jones the better player? Get off your high horse. They both have a long way to go before they’re anywhere close to winning caliber QBs.


No high horse. I think it is clear ever since draft day that Haskins wasn't a fit here whether it be his reaction to not being drafted, to not having his HC support him, to rumors of laziness, to video of him not involved during the game, to him missing a snap in a game because he was taking a selfie, or to his actual poor play on the field. Yes, much is left to be decided and neither are guaranteed of anything but Haskins would have been eaten alive already if he was selected for this team.
this just in  
Paulie Walnuts : 12/2/2019 10:24 pm : link
the Germans just bombed Pearl Harbor
Lombardo is a complete moron.  
Red Dog : 12/2/2019 10:57 pm : link
Pay no attention to the ravings of that unqualified idiot.
Lombardo is the worst  
Aspiring Slacker : 12/3/2019 12:26 am : link
I can’t stand that guy
Him and that Dunleavy

Their podcast is the worst

NJ.com eagles sports writers have an update every few days
Those losers post a video every few weeks

Lazy journalism and have no respect or love for the Giants

Go back and cover the eagles - hacks
RE: Not much to argue there but can people stop sucking off  
Vanzetti : 12/3/2019 2:39 am : link
In comment 14700629 robbieballs2003 said:
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Louis Riddick? He wanted Haskins over Jones. That alone would have negated any potential positives in other areas over Gettleman.


After week four, Jones looked like a much better pick. You can’t say that now. I would still take Jones but it is not a lock he is the better QB. Haskins had only one year as a starter
Many people have said, regarding all major sports, that you can't  
Ira : 12/3/2019 5:19 am : link
rebuild in New York because the media and the fans are too impatient.
I do not agree DG is more responsible then the coaches and Reese/Ross  
George from PA : 12/3/2019 5:22 am : link
DG and the media do not get along because DG lies to them.

Just because he felt Barkley was the best player in draft does not mandate an overall view.

Their more progressive GM choice wanted Haskins..Com'On Man!

Might not be obvious but this team is more talented but youth and poor coaching is not showing any progress.

DG can not afford another mistake with the coaches
Good column  
jeff57 : 12/3/2019 5:46 am : link
And he may be right about this:

An argument can be made that hiring Gettleman as general manager perhaps set the Giants back a decade.

He doesn’t even mention the ridiculous Williams trade.
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Toth029 : 12/3/2019 6:14 am : link
In comment 14700755 Vanzetti said:
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Louis Riddick? He wanted Haskins over Jones. That alone would have negated any potential positives in other areas over Gettleman.



After week four, Jones looked like a much better pick. You can’t say that now. I would still take Jones but it is not a lock he is the better QB. Haskins had only one year as a starter

Giants weren't the only team who passed on Haskins. Several other QB needy teams did.

It's ok to be wrong.
Josh bringing up  
McNally's_Nuts : 12/3/2019 7:08 am : link
Darnold? The sun rises is the East.
it sounds nicer in Italian  
cjac : 12/3/2019 7:13 am : link
when my grandmother used to say it

but

The fish stinks from the head

of course it all falls on Mara
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BlueHurricane : 12/3/2019 7:17 am : link
In comment 14700771 Ira said:
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rebuild in New York because the media and the fans are too impatient.


This may very well be true
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Scooter185 : 12/3/2019 8:18 am : link
In comment 14700797 BlueHurricane said:
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rebuild in New York because the media and the fans are too impatient.



This may very well be true


It's not. The Rangers did/are and the Yankees rebuilt, although they managed to do it practically overnight. And it's easier to rebuild in a hurry in the NFL than it is in the NHL or MLB.

In fact let me take the blue shirts as the counterpoint to the Giants. Ownership admitted where they were and told the fans as much and asked for patience, if not in those exact words. The Giant's FO meanwhile keeps trying to sell that they're going to compete

https://www.nhl.com/news/a-message-from-glen-sather-and-jeff-gorton-about-our-team/c-295742648
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jcn56 : 12/3/2019 8:41 am : link
In comment 14700771 Ira said:
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rebuild in New York because the media and the fans are too impatient.


It's the NFL - where rebuilds are supposed to take 2 seasons thanks to a parity based system that's supposed to encourage player mobility and prevent teams from staying in the cellar for too long.

Unless they can't get out of their own fucking way...
Absolutely Spot-On With One Exception...  
BlueVinnie : 12/3/2019 10:11 am : link
I don't know why Eli was included. It's not his fault that Gettleman and Mara were clueless enough to think he should continue to be the starter.
I would put Reese and his horrid draft classes  
lawguy9801 : 12/3/2019 10:27 am : link
at #1. Ereck Flowers, Eli Apple...good God. I don't even want to look back and think about who we could have had instead, just in the first round of some of these drafts.
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Josh in the City : 12/3/2019 11:22 am : link
In comment 14700792 McNally's_Nuts said:
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Darnold? The sun rises is the East.

Reading comprehension issues? Where did I bring up Darnold? 😂
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Lambuth_Special : 12/3/2019 11:38 am : link
In comment 14700847 Scooter185 said:
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It's not. The Rangers did/are and the Yankees rebuilt, although they managed to do it practically overnight. And it's easier to rebuild in a hurry in the NFL than it is in the NHL or MLB.

In fact let me take the blue shirts as the counterpoint to the Giants. Ownership admitted where they were and told the fans as much and asked for patience, if not in those exact words. The Giant's FO meanwhile keeps trying to sell that they're going to compete

https://www.nhl.com/news/a-message-from-glen-sather-and-jeff-gorton-about-our-team/c-295742648


This right here. It's a poor excuse to say that the team couldn't rebuild because of the potential fan/media reaction. All it takes is some good PR spin behind a unified plan. Add public relations to another category the Giants seem inept at.

Even then - and I hammer this point often - the Philadelphia 76ers did a multi-year rebuild with Sam Hinkie being terrible at PR, and it still didn't matter in the end, they have the number one attendance in the league now.
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Gatorade Dunk : 12/3/2019 11:45 am : link
In comment 14700771 Ira said:
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rebuild in New York because the media and the fans are too impatient.

It is, and always has been, a horseshit take. New York sports fans can handle a rebuild. What they don't appreciate is when they know a fucking rebuild is on the horizon and the team acts as though they're contenders.

NY isn't too impatient for a rebuild. They ARE too impatient to wait for a GM to catch on to what was already obvious to everyone but the mouthbreather callers on WFAN - then it just becomes a waste of time, which is what the entirety of the 2018 offseason has already become.

We could have already finished two rebuilds since the time that the Giants should have seen the writing on the wall in 2013. Instead, we're barely halfway through one and our GM still makes moves that are inconsistent with being fully committed to the rebuild in the first place.

That's what NY is too impatient for, but I don't think it's particularly unique to NY.
Eli had no OL through those years, so that’s BS  
VinegarPeppers : 12/3/2019 4:52 pm : link
But hard to argue with most of the rest.
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