This guy Lamar Jackson'd the league before Lamar was even a thing.
I don't know what that means.
If we hire Rivera does that mean Gettleman is gone and the front office will be restructured? Then yes, I'd love it.
If we hire Rivera to be the HC, Gettleman remains the GM, and nothing otherwise changes...then who cares? We're still a loser. Change is needed. REAL change. Not just swapping the nameplate on the head coach's door.
Pat Shurmur is not the reason the Giants suck. Accepting that is the first step on the road to recovery.
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This guy Lamar Jackson'd the league before Lamar was even a thing.
I don't know what that means.
If we hire Rivera does that mean Gettleman is gone and the front office will be restructured? Then yes, I'd love it.
If we hire Rivera to be the HC, Gettleman remains the GM, and nothing otherwise changes...then who cares? We're still a loser. Change is needed. REAL change. Not just swapping the nameplate on the head coach's door.
Pat Shurmur is not the reason the Giants suck. Accepting that is the first step on the road to recovery.
Terps, you are one of my favorite posters and I agree with you most of the time..but wow.. Shurmur is not the reason why the Giants suck? He is dreadful... just at look at the Baldy post RE: the OLine not knowing WTF they are supposed to do...He was a center in college.. He is the HC..responsible for all things... I mean come on .. he might not be the only reason but we with decent HC would be better than a 2 win team.
You could replace Shurmur with Rivera and we'd still be a bad team. Less bad, maybe...but still bad.
You're right...Shurmur has been absolutely awful. A disaster. But why does the buck stop with him? Gettleman has been equally bad. The 2018 draft class is flopping, the FA signings have busted, and the general resource management wouldn't pass muster in Madden on Rookie level.
But Gettleman isn't the reason either. The reason we suck is that ownership is married to an antiquated way of doing business, and that results in the hiring of incompetent people like Shurmur and Gettleman into important positions.
This problem is way bigger than anything Ron Rivera can fix.
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You could replace Shurmur with Rivera and we'd still be a bad team. Less bad, maybe...but still bad.
You're right...Shurmur has been absolutely awful. A disaster. But why does the buck stop with him? Gettleman has been equally bad. The 2018 draft class is flopping, the FA signings have busted, and the general resource management wouldn't pass muster in Madden on Rookie level.
But Gettleman isn't the reason either. The reason we suck is that ownership is married to an antiquated way of doing business, and that results in the hiring of incompetent people like Shurmur and Gettleman into important positions.
This problem is way bigger than anything Ron Rivera can fix.
baby steps dude.
rivera helps fix the defense and norv getting more out of barkley....those sound like two nice early fixes to me....
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He was 15-1 and in the Superbowl a couple years ago? WTF?
And if that was all Cam Newton, which is undoubtedly the next response, why isn't Cam Newton doing that every year?
3 winning seasons, but keep looking at the outlier.
Rivera isn’t winning a title in today’s NFL.
Well that isn’t fair. He got a highly flawed QB in Newton to an MVP and Super Bowl and then injuries set in. Cam sucks, he got about as much out of him as anyone could.
He was 15-1 and in the Superbowl a couple years ago? WTF?
And if that was all Cam Newton, which is undoubtedly the next response, why isn't Cam Newton doing that every year?
3 winning seasons, but keep looking at the outlier.
Rivera isn’t winning a title in today’s NFL.
LMFAO/ i love wen people talk in absolutes! the dude almsot won a super bowl not long ago. you act like he is a fucking dinosaur. the game of football hasnt "changed" that much....
is responsible for the coaching staff. Hal Hunter is trash. Maybe that's the best Shurmur could lure here, but that's on him. A good HC gets good OC, DC and assistants which Shurmur cannot do
"We are going to take a comprehensive and thorough review of our football operation to make sure we are structured for long-term sustained success," Tepper said.
This is what needs to happen after the season for the Giants. Link - ( New Window )
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He was 15-1 and in the Superbowl a couple years ago? WTF?
And if that was all Cam Newton, which is undoubtedly the next response, why isn't Cam Newton doing that every year?
3 winning seasons, but keep looking at the outlier.
Rivera isn’t winning a title in today’s NFL.
He's been to the playoffs 4 out of the last 6 seasons! Including a 15-1 Superbowl campaign! He also won AP Coach of the year 2x during that span. You're off the deep end, dude.
"We are going to take a comprehensive and thorough review of our football operation to make sure we are structured for long-term sustained success," Tepper said.
This is what needs to happen after the season for the Giants. Link - ( New Window )
These are words that literally will never be spoken by a Giant owner.
He sucks now. There was a time where his wheels and physicality was good enough (great for a while, in fact) to overcome his shitty throwing but that’s no more.
I really need to explain that?
As for Rivera, he’d be a good hire if the FO isn’t getting rid of Gettelman. I’m all in on fully cleaning house but I’m not going to harp on it thread after thread. I’ll live with whatever happens.
You said it as if he had to overcome Cam Newton for years and years Â
That Tepper quote captures exactly what is needed here, in one sentence.
You guys want to know what's needed? It's right there. Not Ron Rivera.
GT- you can't selectively praise one quote to prop up your argument when the fundamental flaw as you see it is ownership involved in football decisions. The man you are praising also wants to to put his stamp on the football side of things. What makes him qualified as an owner to make football decisions?
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I just thought it was time given the way things have gone the last two seasons to put my stamp on this organization on the football side as we’ve done on the business side of the organization. I think as much respect as I have for Ron, I think a change was appropriate to build things the way I want things to be built.
Naa, that’s just your interpretation. He was great for a few years, despite his pretty glaring flaws. And wen they went 15-1 they had a great defense, something a previous poster was chalking up to an outlier.
You’re the one whose posting all of his accomplishments.
Like I said Rivera is a guy who keeps you in purgatory. Right around 7-9/9-7 with the outlier great season. That’s not what the Giants need, they need to hit this one out of the park
You feel like being a Giants fan is similar to someone handing you a million dollars in cash?
lol/. no my point is youre never happy...you consistently bitch and moan about every choice. i have never ONCE heard you say that was a smart move. you consistently never have ANYTHING positive to say.
What is there that's positive to say about this team?
The Giants have been, objectively, one of the worst organizations in the NFL since 2013. That's not an opinion...it's a fact.
We both want the team to be better and compete, so we're not all that different in that way. The difference is that you are more willing to kid yourself into thinking things that will make you believe the Giants are doing well. I can't do that, I'm sorry. When I see a plane crash into a mountain, I don't tell myself the passengers are all OK.
Yes he “made” playoffs 4 times but Once was with losing record.
He did go 15-1 and make the Super Bowl. But he also had a massively stacked team with 10 Pro Bowlers, and an NFL MVP QB and was unable to muster sustained winning.
He lost the SB big (24-10) as the 5.5 favorite, Blown at home (23-10) by San Fran as favorites. Got down big (24-9) to NO in a playoff game as a 12 win team and got blown out by Seattle (down 31-10) as well at home. Some of the final scores look a bit better due to late TDs.
And now has a losing year 3 out of 4 seasons.
I don’t see this as a slam dunk candidate at all.
The Giants ''need to hit this one out of the park'' Â
have a different winner each year for like a decade that ended when Carolina won 3 straight? A HoF QB in Brees with Sean Peyton was part of that stretch.
I think some of you need some perspective on what good coaching is. Rivera isn't Belichick but he's been an above average head coach in this league.
I'm not advocating for or against him in the Giants scenario, but some of these posts are flat wrong.
I think Carolina has been in the same boat we've been the past few years. They paid Cam and were stuck with him and tried making it work. His injury this year was a blessing and are likely moving on. Not they get to clean house and start over without him.
"Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good." Â
You could do worse than Rivera. I don't think he's a bad coach, but he's not going to knock your socks off either. In short, you could do worse. But you could do better too.
because to me it's a league where coaching still makes a huge difference. Now I know he got the nickname riverboat Ron for going it on fourth down, so this is an interesting comment:
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Tepper will use a search committee to find the next coach. He didn't totally rule out a college coach, but he appears focused on a young, offensive-minded NFL coordinator who is willing to use analytics in a way Rivera never would.
This also does not inspire confidence:
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Rivera ended his nine-year tenure with a 76-63-1 regular-season record and a 3-4 postseason mark. Despite an NFL-best 15-1 2015 season and trip to the Super Bowl, he finished with only three winning seasons.
This sounds exactly like the Giants from 2012-2015 under Coughlin.
You read that article, and the owner just shits on a couple of often repeated fallacies on BBI.
1) Gettleman has to go up there and say he's trying to win now, what else is he going to say.
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"If people believe or fans believe that I'm going to hire the messiah in here and bring you to the promised land in one year, I got a few guys they should meet,'' Tepper said. "They can meet the Tooth Fairy, they can meet Santa Claus, I got a bridge in Brooklyn."
2) What's the point of addressing the fans mid-season, it's just a way for the fans and media to get a pound of flesh.
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"We will consider a wide range of football executives to complement our current football staff. We all must recognize that this is the first step in a process, but we are committed to building and maintaining a championship culture for our team and our fans."
"We are going to take a comprehensive and thorough review of our football operation to make sure we are structured for long-term sustained success," Tepper said.
This is what needs to happen after the season for the Giants. Link - ( New Window )
Maybe Tepper helped us out here - because a team coming off a better record of late just fired their coach and is going to do this evaluation, meanwhile Mara has plans to just leave the status quo in the FO and bring in Rivera.
Rivera is certainly an upgrade over Shurmur - but if they hire him without any sort of due diligence - real due diligence, not just Accorsi swinging by to tell a couple of Bert Jones stories followed by a thumbs-up - then nobody should be surprised when the shit football continues.
He would be a good hire. Not the sexiest pick but the safest pick with good upside. The Giants need a coach with a high floor given the results with the last two options. This is a pivotal off-season for the foreseeable future of the team.
Some posters have cried for a GM and coach “tied at the hip.” Well here you go. These guys have experience working together and align philosophically.
Rivera is a defensive HC — what this team needs. He has experience winning in this league. He has the best resume of any retreads likely on the market, with less talent.
The Giants tried the hot coordinator route with terrible results. Rolling the dice on Rhule cutting his teeth in the pros is too risky. Saleh is a gamble. Roman runs a Cracker Jack offense that requires a QB who runs a 4.4.
I’d be perfectly fine with Rivera as the next HC. I think he can be even better liberated from limited QBs running his team.
Who knows what would have happened if Eli wasn’t forced on them.
Congratulations, AJ. With post 292, you are the first to smear Eli and imply the team is a winner hamstrung by him being on the roster. For your implication to have merit, it would help if OBJ and the rest of the receivers could catch the darts was throwing in the only game that mattered. I presume you are loving the "winning" that is happening this season with Eli as a spectator.
Yes he “made” playoffs 4 times but Once was with losing record.
He did go 15-1 and make the Super Bowl. But he also had a massively stacked team with 10 Pro Bowlers, and an NFL MVP QB and was unable to muster sustained winning.
He lost the SB big (24-10) as the 5.5 favorite, Blown at home (23-10) by San Fran as favorites. Got down big (24-9) to NO in a playoff game as a 12 win team and got blown out by Seattle (down 31-10) as well at home. Some of the final scores look a bit better due to late TDs.
And now has a losing year 3 out of 4 seasons.
I don’t see this as a slam dunk candidate at all.
Nice summary here. The 3 of 9 winning seasons is a red flag.
What exactly is he good at as a HC? He’s supposedly a good defensive mind but the Panthers have largely been bottom half of the league in PPG during his tenure.
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Who knows what would have happened if Eli wasn’t forced on them.
Congratulations, AJ. With post 292, you are the first to smear Eli and imply the team is a winner hamstrung by him being on the roster. For your implication to have merit, it would help if OBJ and the rest of the receivers could catch the darts was throwing in the only game that mattered. I presume you are loving the "winning" that is happening this season with Eli as a spectator.
I mean if you don’t think this team would be in a better situation had they started to rebuild sooner instead of trying to win with a declining Eli then I don’t know what to tell you.
The offense was bad in 2016, all the signs were there. There are reports, granted can’t be taken fully at face value, that Mcadoo wanted to trade up for Mahomes. So yes, who knows how different 2019 goes for the Giants if Eli wasn’t forced on them in 2017 and 2018, and if Mara didn’t cave to the benching backlash.
For all of McAdoos faults - and there were a lot - he was right about needing to move on from Eli.
The entire thread has nothing to do with Eli. Literally. Everyone except you managed to drag an insinuation that Eli is what has held this team back. Some posters can't help themselves. Now that Eli is a spectator, I hope you are enjoying the winning ways.
Nothing against him, but he isn't fixing this team's issues.
Per FMiC, Rivera and DG worked well together.
Does that change your mind? ;)
This is one of the many ways BBI has devolved. Posting a statement that isn't disputed around Carolina now gets one mocked here. A simple one-line statement that DG and Rivera worked well together.
Your misery is fucking awesome for the rest of us...
The entire thread has nothing to do with Eli. Literally. Everyone except you managed to drag an insinuation that Eli is what has held this team back. Some posters can't help themselves. Now that Eli is a spectator, I hope you are enjoying the winning ways.
A poster said we went the hot coordinator route and shouldn’t do it again because it failed.
What’s wrong with pointing out that hot coordinator, while flawed was also handicapped at the most important position and made the playoffs one of his two seasons?
On the world wide web,misery's all you got
I don't know what that means.
If we hire Rivera does that mean Gettleman is gone and the front office will be restructured? Then yes, I'd love it.
If we hire Rivera to be the HC, Gettleman remains the GM, and nothing otherwise changes...then who cares? We're still a loser. Change is needed. REAL change. Not just swapping the nameplate on the head coach's door.
Pat Shurmur is not the reason the Giants suck. Accepting that is the first step on the road to recovery.
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This guy Lamar Jackson'd the league before Lamar was even a thing.
I don't know what that means.
If we hire Rivera does that mean Gettleman is gone and the front office will be restructured? Then yes, I'd love it.
If we hire Rivera to be the HC, Gettleman remains the GM, and nothing otherwise changes...then who cares? We're still a loser. Change is needed. REAL change. Not just swapping the nameplate on the head coach's door.
Pat Shurmur is not the reason the Giants suck. Accepting that is the first step on the road to recovery.
Terps, you are one of my favorite posters and I agree with you most of the time..but wow.. Shurmur is not the reason why the Giants suck? He is dreadful... just at look at the Baldy post RE: the OLine not knowing WTF they are supposed to do...He was a center in college.. He is the HC..responsible for all things... I mean come on .. he might not be the only reason but we with decent HC would be better than a 2 win team.
You're right...Shurmur has been absolutely awful. A disaster. But why does the buck stop with him? Gettleman has been equally bad. The 2018 draft class is flopping, the FA signings have busted, and the general resource management wouldn't pass muster in Madden on Rookie level.
But Gettleman isn't the reason either. The reason we suck is that ownership is married to an antiquated way of doing business, and that results in the hiring of incompetent people like Shurmur and Gettleman into important positions.
This problem is way bigger than anything Ron Rivera can fix.
And if that was all Cam Newton, which is undoubtedly the next response, why isn't Cam Newton doing that every year?
3 winning seasons, but keep looking at the outlier.
Rivera isn’t winning a title in today’s NFL.
The Giants fired the GM, and two seasons later are on the verge of actually losing more games than under the incumbent.
The problem is not isolated to Pat Shurmur.
You're right...Shurmur has been absolutely awful. A disaster. But why does the buck stop with him? Gettleman has been equally bad. The 2018 draft class is flopping, the FA signings have busted, and the general resource management wouldn't pass muster in Madden on Rookie level.
But Gettleman isn't the reason either. The reason we suck is that ownership is married to an antiquated way of doing business, and that results in the hiring of incompetent people like Shurmur and Gettleman into important positions.
This problem is way bigger than anything Ron Rivera can fix.
baby steps dude.
rivera helps fix the defense and norv getting more out of barkley....those sound like two nice early fixes to me....
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He was 15-1 and in the Superbowl a couple years ago? WTF?
And if that was all Cam Newton, which is undoubtedly the next response, why isn't Cam Newton doing that every year?
3 winning seasons, but keep looking at the outlier.
Rivera isn’t winning a title in today’s NFL.
Well that isn’t fair. He got a highly flawed QB in Newton to an MVP and Super Bowl and then injuries set in. Cam sucks, he got about as much out of him as anyone could.
Hell, I'd prefer Rivera be GM, too, over Resume.
But Terps is right. Gettleman is the bigger problem. As long as he's in place the problems will persist.
On Paterson, btw, he's burned out coaching UDub. Why would he want to deal with Dallas, which is going to be 10X the pressure...??
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He was 15-1 and in the Superbowl a couple years ago? WTF?
And if that was all Cam Newton, which is undoubtedly the next response, why isn't Cam Newton doing that every year?
3 winning seasons, but keep looking at the outlier.
Rivera isn’t winning a title in today’s NFL.
LMFAO/ i love wen people talk in absolutes! the dude almsot won a super bowl not long ago. you act like he is a fucking dinosaur. the game of football hasnt "changed" that much....
This is what needs to happen after the season for the Giants.
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He was 15-1 and in the Superbowl a couple years ago? WTF?
And if that was all Cam Newton, which is undoubtedly the next response, why isn't Cam Newton doing that every year?
3 winning seasons, but keep looking at the outlier.
Rivera isn’t winning a title in today’s NFL.
He's been to the playoffs 4 out of the last 6 seasons! Including a 15-1 Superbowl campaign! He also won AP Coach of the year 2x during that span. You're off the deep end, dude.
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"We are going to take a comprehensive and thorough review of our football operation to make sure we are structured for long-term sustained success," Tepper said.
This is what needs to happen after the season for the Giants. Link - ( New Window )
These are words that literally will never be spoken by a Giant owner.
You guys want to know what's needed? It's right there. Not Ron Rivera.
THAT is what is needed with the New York Giants.
He sucks now. There was a time where his wheels and physicality was good enough (great for a while, in fact) to overcome his shitty throwing but that’s no more.
I really need to explain that?
As for Rivera, he’d be a good hire if the FO isn’t getting rid of Gettelman. I’m all in on fully cleaning house but I’m not going to harp on it thread after thread. I’ll live with whatever happens.
You guys want to know what's needed? It's right there. Not Ron Rivera.
GT- you can't selectively praise one quote to prop up your argument when the fundamental flaw as you see it is ownership involved in football decisions. The man you are praising also wants to to put his stamp on the football side of things. What makes him qualified as an owner to make football decisions?
Naa, that’s just your interpretation. He was great for a few years, despite his pretty glaring flaws. And wen they went 15-1 they had a great defense, something a previous poster was chalking up to an outlier.
That’s garbage. Rivera is a good coach.
You’re the one whose posting all of his accomplishments.
Like I said Rivera is a guy who keeps you in purgatory. Right around 7-9/9-7 with the outlier great season. That’s not what the Giants need, they need to hit this one out of the park
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You feel like being a Giants fan is similar to someone handing you a million dollars in cash?
lol/. no my point is youre never happy...you consistently bitch and moan about every choice. i have never ONCE heard you say that was a smart move. you consistently never have ANYTHING positive to say.
What is there that's positive to say about this team?
The Giants have been, objectively, one of the worst organizations in the NFL since 2013. That's not an opinion...it's a fact.
We both want the team to be better and compete, so we're not all that different in that way. The difference is that you are more willing to kid yourself into thinking things that will make you believe the Giants are doing well. I can't do that, I'm sorry. When I see a plane crash into a mountain, I don't tell myself the passengers are all OK.
One of the worst?
Since 2017 objectively they are THE worst.
Only 3 years out of 9 with winning seasons
Yes he “made” playoffs 4 times but Once was with losing record.
He did go 15-1 and make the Super Bowl. But he also had a massively stacked team with 10 Pro Bowlers, and an NFL MVP QB and was unable to muster sustained winning.
He lost the SB big (24-10) as the 5.5 favorite, Blown at home (23-10) by San Fran as favorites. Got down big (24-9) to NO in a playoff game as a 12 win team and got blown out by Seattle (down 31-10) as well at home. Some of the final scores look a bit better due to late TDs.
And now has a losing year 3 out of 4 seasons.
I don’t see this as a slam dunk candidate at all.
John Harbaugh or Belichick or Reid shaking loose?
John Harbaugh or Belichick or Reid shaking loose?
An out of the park hire would be Roman, Rhule or Riley
And if that was all Cam Newton, which is undoubtedly the next response, why isn't Cam Newton doing that every year?
Why isn't Rivera?
Do you even read what you write sometimes?
I think if we want a total teardown, we gotta lose out. And that's very possible.
I think some of you need some perspective on what good coaching is. Rivera isn't Belichick but he's been an above average head coach in this league.
I'm not advocating for or against him in the Giants scenario, but some of these posts are flat wrong.
I'll take Rivera as an imperfect but potential winner in the mold of Coughlin.
This also does not inspire confidence:
This sounds exactly like the Giants from 2012-2015 under Coughlin.
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1) Gettleman has to go up there and say he's trying to win now, what else is he going to say.
2) What's the point of addressing the fans mid-season, it's just a way for the fans and media to get a pound of flesh.
Fewell might win more games as HC this year than Shurmur.
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"We are going to take a comprehensive and thorough review of our football operation to make sure we are structured for long-term sustained success," Tepper said.
This is what needs to happen after the season for the Giants. Link - ( New Window )
Maybe Tepper helped us out here - because a team coming off a better record of late just fired their coach and is going to do this evaluation, meanwhile Mara has plans to just leave the status quo in the FO and bring in Rivera.
Rivera is certainly an upgrade over Shurmur - but if they hire him without any sort of due diligence - real due diligence, not just Accorsi swinging by to tell a couple of Bert Jones stories followed by a thumbs-up - then nobody should be surprised when the shit football continues.
Some posters have cried for a GM and coach “tied at the hip.” Well here you go. These guys have experience working together and align philosophically.
Rivera is a defensive HC — what this team needs. He has experience winning in this league. He has the best resume of any retreads likely on the market, with less talent.
The Giants tried the hot coordinator route with terrible results. Rolling the dice on Rhule cutting his teeth in the pros is too risky. Saleh is a gamble. Roman runs a Cracker Jack offense that requires a QB who runs a 4.4.
I’d be perfectly fine with Rivera as the next HC. I think he can be even better liberated from limited QBs running his team.
Who knows what would have happened if Eli wasn’t forced on them.
Who knows what would have happened if Eli wasn’t forced on them.
Congratulations, AJ. With post 292, you are the first to smear Eli and imply the team is a winner hamstrung by him being on the roster. For your implication to have merit, it would help if OBJ and the rest of the receivers could catch the darts was throwing in the only game that mattered. I presume you are loving the "winning" that is happening this season with Eli as a spectator.
Only 3 years out of 9 with winning seasons
Yes he “made” playoffs 4 times but Once was with losing record.
He did go 15-1 and make the Super Bowl. But he also had a massively stacked team with 10 Pro Bowlers, and an NFL MVP QB and was unable to muster sustained winning.
He lost the SB big (24-10) as the 5.5 favorite, Blown at home (23-10) by San Fran as favorites. Got down big (24-9) to NO in a playoff game as a 12 win team and got blown out by Seattle (down 31-10) as well at home. Some of the final scores look a bit better due to late TDs.
And now has a losing year 3 out of 4 seasons.
I don’t see this as a slam dunk candidate at all.
Nice summary here. The 3 of 9 winning seasons is a red flag.
What exactly is he good at as a HC? He’s supposedly a good defensive mind but the Panthers have largely been bottom half of the league in PPG during his tenure.
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And made the playoffs for what it’s worth.
Who knows what would have happened if Eli wasn’t forced on them.
Congratulations, AJ. With post 292, you are the first to smear Eli and imply the team is a winner hamstrung by him being on the roster. For your implication to have merit, it would help if OBJ and the rest of the receivers could catch the darts was throwing in the only game that mattered. I presume you are loving the "winning" that is happening this season with Eli as a spectator.
I mean if you don’t think this team would be in a better situation had they started to rebuild sooner instead of trying to win with a declining Eli then I don’t know what to tell you.
The offense was bad in 2016, all the signs were there. There are reports, granted can’t be taken fully at face value, that Mcadoo wanted to trade up for Mahomes. So yes, who knows how different 2019 goes for the Giants if Eli wasn’t forced on them in 2017 and 2018, and if Mara didn’t cave to the benching backlash.
For all of McAdoos faults - and there were a lot - he was right about needing to move on from Eli.
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Nothing against him, but he isn't fixing this team's issues.
Per FMiC, Rivera and DG worked well together.
Does that change your mind? ;)
This is one of the many ways BBI has devolved. Posting a statement that isn't disputed around Carolina now gets one mocked here. A simple one-line statement that DG and Rivera worked well together.
Your misery is fucking awesome for the rest of us...
Because you know, if he was fired it means he sucks!
A poster said we went the hot coordinator route and shouldn’t do it again because it failed.
What’s wrong with pointing out that hot coordinator, while flawed was also handicapped at the most important position and made the playoffs one of his two seasons?