wrote the same thing in Monday's Post after Dev's loss. Where is PK Subban?
Subban has always been over rated. He was good offensively with a wicked slap shot. His defensive game was always bad. He got a Norris because they only go by goals and assists. Actually playing defense doesn't matter. Now that he's older and a little slower the offense is leaving him which makes him pretty useless.
Their forecheck was relentless, their neutral zone play great and they limited chances in their defensive zone and still the talent of a player like Barzal almost stole a point from them.
Their forecheck was relentless, their neutral zone play great and they limited chances in their defensive zone and still the talent of a player like Barzal almost stole a point from them.
they need help on the blue line. desperately.
They kicked the shit out of the Islanders last night. Just dominated almost the entire game. Worst game I've seen from NYI all year.
Their forecheck was relentless, their neutral zone play great and they limited chances in their defensive zone and still the talent of a player like Barzal almost stole a point from them.
they need help on the blue line. desperately.
They kicked the shit out of the Islanders last night. Just dominated almost the entire game. Worst game I've seen from NYI all year.
How the hell did that team lose 8 in a row?
1. Price has been brutal, Kinkaid worse (sayonara)
2. and they don't always have that effort. they are an effort team vs a talent team (like TBL). So they need max effort or they get easily outclassed by most teams. Brendan Gallagher is their best forward, Ben Chiarot played almost 31 min last night. That's not a good thing.
It was cool to see Toews and Peca play against each other. Two Quinnipiac alums in the NHL.
of blue line help I meant, but still probably better than what they have today.
Marc-Olivier Beaudoin
@MOBeaudoin1
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According to Martin McGuire, the Canadiens and the Flyers are in deep talks regarding a potential trade including Shayne Gostisbehere. No assets or names were mentionned on Habs side. The trigger could be pulled soon. Stay tuned. #CH #Habs #Canadiens
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Friedman says NYR and EDM discussed a deal centering around Lias Andersson and Jesse Puljujarvi, and that Puljujarvi was interested in heading to NY. No deal, though.
There's a new article in the Athletic that talks about Torts.
The main gist seems to be (from anonymous and identified sources) seems to be that he's can be a major asshole, but never ever crossed the line.
“I kind of like it when we get into those ‘fuck you’ matches. He looks at you a little differently after that. But he’s been my coach for, what, five seasons now? He’s been great to me.”- Cam Atkinson
at the serious levels these guys played at whose stories are coming out now.
but most of my life coaches yelled at, hit, threw things at, demeaned, embarrassed and belittled players.
just seemed like part of the game. not every coach, but a lot.
When my daughter began playing at 5 years old, her coach was 6' 4" Joe Hulbig - former 1st round pick of the Oilers, got hurt, but wound up playing for the Bruins and Providence for a while.
Awesome guy, the kids loved him, they had so much fun. My daughter would be in the car waiting for me to take her to practice. Three years of this - all of mites and maybe first year squirts.
I asked him one day, when are the kids going to start hating hockey like I did when I was that age and he smirked and said hopefully never. it's different now.
and he is 100% right or he should be.
but I do think coaches should have a right to be mean. physically or emotionally abusive no, definitely not racist, but mean - absolutely. everyone is motivated differently and coaches shouldn't be the players friends necessarily.
but I do think coaches should have a right to be mean. physically or emotionally abusive no, definitely not racist, but mean - absolutely. everyone is motivated differently and coaches shouldn't be the players friends necessarily.
Herb Brooks taught us that, if no one else did.
And that Torts article points to the line between being a red ass and being abusive.
but I do think coaches should have a right to be mean. physically or emotionally abusive no, definitely not racist, but mean - absolutely. everyone is motivated differently and coaches shouldn't be the players friends necessarily.
Herb Brooks taught us that, if no one else did.
And that Torts article points to the line between being a red ass and being abusive.
Thanks for sharing it. I'm planning to read it tonight.
Tough matchup for the kid, and I would have Price play tonight and Primeau vs the Rangers - especially after the beating Price took from the Rangers last week.
Ouch! Did he injure the player? Sure looked like it. Uncool
He is fortunate to "only" suffer a concussion. Leagues like the NHL and NFL when they say they care about player safety, need to highlight dangerous plays like this as an example of what is not acceptable. We'll see what the player safety dept has to say.
I also think it's sort of funny that George Parros (who I like) - notable on-ice goon, is discipline czar
Slowing it down and focusing only on that the slew foot is obvious. At game speed with other things going on I can understand how it is missed. How about that cross check by a Montreal player to the face of Cal Clutterbuck that was not called? Or Deryk Engelland's cross check to Matt Martin right in front of Wes McCauley, who is usually one of the best in the game?
Slowing it down and focusing only on that the slew foot is obvious. At game speed with other things going on I can understand how it is missed. How about that cross check by a Montreal player to the face of Cal Clutterbuck that was not called? Or Deryk Engelland's cross check to Matt Martin right in front of Wes McCauley, who is usually one of the best in the game?
I saw it real time and immediately thought slew foot, but my couch is definitely different than the on ice views of the refs. I wasn't so much commenting on the real time call anyway, but the post-game defense by those defending it.
The Islanders vs Habs a lot was let go - both ways. I do think it's weak they called Carey Price for the slash, when he was retaliating on Nelson. Normally goalies get the benefit of the doubt. If the goalie does something you can usually be sure (usually) it wasn't initiated by the goalie or the player did something to deserve it and you let both go, you don't usually see a goalie get a retaliation call.
There have been some Taylor Hall rumors to Colorado. One of the rumors I saw was him for Bowen Byram and a 1st. Is that a realistic return if it happened soon? That seems a bit generous for the Devils as I would be happy with Byram straight up for Hall with perhaps a condition(2nd or 3rd) in the event that they re-sign Hall.
but the consensus I've read is the going rate for a player like Hall is a 1st round pick, a 4th round pick and a B prospect.
because he's a rental.
if he were signed beyond this year maybe upgrade the prospect I guess.
Byram is an A prospect. He was the #4 pick in the draft less than 18 months ago. I wouldn't be floored if they got that, but I do think it's a little bit of an overpay. but Hall isn't a typical rental, I guess you could argue.
but like I said, predicting trade value is not my forte.
Brett and I have talked on here before about the book Losing the Edge, about the 1994 Rangers and the aftermath of the Cup season, and there is a whole lot in there illustrating how much of a maniac Keenan was, particularly towards Mike Gartner and Eddie Olczyk.
Man the Devils goaltending has been pretty awful Â
Blackwood has been playing very well at times but Schneider and now Domingue are just brutal. They need to make goaltender a priority either via trades before the deadline or in FA.
Blackwood still could be a very good starter but they need a better option to split time with him.
the Atlantic is. Bruins running away with the league.
TBL and TOR massively underachieving.
MTL doing what was expected for the most part, aside from Price playing like a sieve.
BUF and FLA possibly exceeding the low expectations people have for them.
DET and OTT about right.
I do expect both TBL and TOR to go on a roll, but who knows at this point. It's no longer a SSS. Though last year probably taught us not to write anyone off in December (or January).
pressure on players like Kotkaniemi, Kakko, Kravtsov, etc.
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Has there ever been a time in NHL history with a deeper group of star players under the age of 25? It is exceptionally deep, and rife with quality. Five of the top 7 scorers, 9 of the top 16...all under 25. The game is getting younger and younger.
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Bruins’ Brett Ritchie: “It’s an 82-game season. We weren’t going to go 80-3 or whatever it was.”
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How is he this bad?
Hall, Hischier, Hughes, Subban, Butcher, etc. they should not be this bad as a team.
I wasn't sold on the goaltending, but I haven't watched enough to see if that's the problem or not (like it is in MTL).
How is he this bad?
Hall, Hischier, Hughes, Subban, Butcher, etc. they should not be this bad as a team.
I wasn't sold on the goaltending, but I haven't watched enough to see if that's the problem or not (like it is in MTL).
Totally forgot Subban was on the Devils.
/2019/11/30/ray-shero-cant-let-this-devils-disaster-go-on-much-longer
Unusual # of draft eligibles
Canada highlights for 2020 draft
Lafreniere
Byfield
Perfetti
Holloway (from WIS)
Jamie Drysdale
Dawson Mercer
plus more
and some already drafted players
like Byram (COL), Cozens (BUF), Krebs (LVG), Smith (NJD) and more
this is not final - there are 31 players invited to camp, I think they go with 20 or 22.
the tournament starts in a few weeks in the Czech Republic, so not much time.
Subban has always been over rated. He was good offensively with a wicked slap shot. His defensive game was always bad. He got a Norris because they only go by goals and assists. Actually playing defense doesn't matter. Now that he's older and a little slower the offense is leaving him which makes him pretty useless.
But his offense shouldn't be this bad at this age.
He's 30, not 40.
Their forecheck was relentless, their neutral zone play great and they limited chances in their defensive zone and still the talent of a player like Barzal almost stole a point from them.
they need help on the blue line. desperately.
Their forecheck was relentless, their neutral zone play great and they limited chances in their defensive zone and still the talent of a player like Barzal almost stole a point from them.
they need help on the blue line. desperately.
They kicked the shit out of the Islanders last night. Just dominated almost the entire game. Worst game I've seen from NYI all year.
How the hell did that team lose 8 in a row?
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had their best game in a month or so.
Their forecheck was relentless, their neutral zone play great and they limited chances in their defensive zone and still the talent of a player like Barzal almost stole a point from them.
they need help on the blue line. desperately.
They kicked the shit out of the Islanders last night. Just dominated almost the entire game. Worst game I've seen from NYI all year.
How the hell did that team lose 8 in a row?
1. Price has been brutal, Kinkaid worse (sayonara)
2. and they don't always have that effort. they are an effort team vs a talent team (like TBL). So they need max effort or they get easily outclassed by most teams. Brendan Gallagher is their best forward, Ben Chiarot played almost 31 min last night. That's not a good thing.
It was cool to see Toews and Peca play against each other. Two Quinnipiac alums in the NHL.
Marc-Olivier Beaudoin
@MOBeaudoin1
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According to Martin McGuire, the Canadiens and the Flyers are in deep talks regarding a potential trade including Shayne Gostisbehere. No assets or names were mentionned on Habs side. The trigger could be pulled soon. Stay tuned. #CH #Habs #Canadiens
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Adam Herman
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Friedman says NYR and EDM discussed a deal centering around Lias Andersson and Jesse Puljujarvi, and that Puljujarvi was interested in heading to NY. No deal, though.
The main gist seems to be (from anonymous and identified sources) seems to be that he's can be a major asshole, but never ever crossed the line.
“I kind of like it when we get into those ‘fuck you’ matches. He looks at you a little differently after that. But he’s been my coach for, what, five seasons now? He’s been great to me.”- Cam Atkinson
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but most of my life coaches yelled at, hit, threw things at, demeaned, embarrassed and belittled players.
just seemed like part of the game. not every coach, but a lot.
When my daughter began playing at 5 years old, her coach was 6' 4" Joe Hulbig - former 1st round pick of the Oilers, got hurt, but wound up playing for the Bruins and Providence for a while.
Awesome guy, the kids loved him, they had so much fun. My daughter would be in the car waiting for me to take her to practice. Three years of this - all of mites and maybe first year squirts.
I asked him one day, when are the kids going to start hating hockey like I did when I was that age and he smirked and said hopefully never. it's different now.
and he is 100% right or he should be.
but I do think coaches should have a right to be mean. physically or emotionally abusive no, definitely not racist, but mean - absolutely. everyone is motivated differently and coaches shouldn't be the players friends necessarily.
Herb Brooks taught us that, if no one else did.
but I do think coaches should have a right to be mean. physically or emotionally abusive no, definitely not racist, but mean - absolutely. everyone is motivated differently and coaches shouldn't be the players friends necessarily.
Herb Brooks taught us that, if no one else did.
And that Torts article points to the line between being a red ass and being abusive.
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but I do think coaches should have a right to be mean. physically or emotionally abusive no, definitely not racist, but mean - absolutely. everyone is motivated differently and coaches shouldn't be the players friends necessarily.
Herb Brooks taught us that, if no one else did.
And that Torts article points to the line between being a red ass and being abusive.
Thanks for sharing it. I'm planning to read it tonight.
Tough matchup for the kid, and I would have Price play tonight and Primeau vs the Rangers - especially after the beating Price took from the Rangers last week.
this is suspendable IMO.
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this is suspendable IMO.
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Ouch! Did he injure the player? Sure looked like it. Uncool
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how anyone can argue this is not a slew foot.
this is suspendable IMO.
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Ouch! Did he injure the player? Sure looked like it. Uncool
He is fortunate to "only" suffer a concussion. Leagues like the NHL and NFL when they say they care about player safety, need to highlight dangerous plays like this as an example of what is not acceptable. We'll see what the player safety dept has to say.
I also think it's sort of funny that George Parros (who I like) - notable on-ice goon, is discipline czar
this is suspendable IMO.
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Slowing it down and focusing only on that the slew foot is obvious. At game speed with other things going on I can understand how it is missed. How about that cross check by a Montreal player to the face of Cal Clutterbuck that was not called? Or Deryk Engelland's cross check to Matt Martin right in front of Wes McCauley, who is usually one of the best in the game?
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how anyone can argue this is not a slew foot.
this is suspendable IMO.
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Slowing it down and focusing only on that the slew foot is obvious. At game speed with other things going on I can understand how it is missed. How about that cross check by a Montreal player to the face of Cal Clutterbuck that was not called? Or Deryk Engelland's cross check to Matt Martin right in front of Wes McCauley, who is usually one of the best in the game?
I saw it real time and immediately thought slew foot, but my couch is definitely different than the on ice views of the refs. I wasn't so much commenting on the real time call anyway, but the post-game defense by those defending it.
The Islanders vs Habs a lot was let go - both ways. I do think it's weak they called Carey Price for the slash, when he was retaliating on Nelson. Normally goalies get the benefit of the doubt. If the goalie does something you can usually be sure (usually) it wasn't initiated by the goalie or the player did something to deserve it and you let both go, you don't usually see a goalie get a retaliation call.
That was my point, not a real time call in a game.
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but the consensus I've read is the going rate for a player like Hall is a 1st round pick, a 4th round pick and a B prospect.
because he's a rental.
if he were signed beyond this year maybe upgrade the prospect I guess.
Byram is an A prospect. He was the #4 pick in the draft less than 18 months ago. I wouldn't be floored if they got that, but I do think it's a little bit of an overpay. but Hall isn't a typical rental, I guess you could argue.
but like I said, predicting trade value is not my forte.
they're good too.
Blackwood still could be a very good starter but they need a better option to split time with him.
Igor Eronko
@IgorEronko
Bob Hartley is close to sign a 2-year extension with Omsk Avangard of the KHL
3:23 PM · Dec 8, 2019·TweetDeck
TBL and TOR massively underachieving.
MTL doing what was expected for the most part, aside from Price playing like a sieve.
BUF and FLA possibly exceeding the low expectations people have for them.
DET and OTT about right.
I do expect both TBL and TOR to go on a roll, but who knows at this point. It's no longer a SSS. Though last year probably taught us not to write anyone off in December (or January).
not sure it's big enough to move the needle on their expectations, but he's easily their best player with Hughes not being loaned too.
Ok, I may have underestimated. I guess maybe US team could be good. It's the U18 where they will struggle.
Timing is strange, Dallas started off terribly, but has been good lately. I wonder if there was some kind of misconduct.
Assistant coach Rick Bowness will serve as interim head coach
you don't fire a coach for Rick Bowness IMO unless it's extraordinary circumstances.
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Has there ever been a time in NHL history with a deeper group of star players under the age of 25? It is exceptionally deep, and rife with quality. Five of the top 7 scorers, 9 of the top 16...all under 25. The game is getting younger and younger.
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Dallas Stars fire coach Jim Montgomery ‘due to unprofessional conduct’
Assistant coach Rick Bowness will serve as interim head coach
you don't fire a coach for Rick Bowness IMO unless it's extraordinary circumstances.
Rick Bowness? Haha seriously?
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Join the club.
@SWhyno
Bruins’ Brett Ritchie: “It’s an 82-game season. We weren’t going to go 80-3 or whatever it was.”
11:23 AM · Dec 11, 2019·Twitter for iPhone
but this is just stupid shit. Who tries to steal the puck from a kid's first win, one whose teammate you were on team USA.