I think I saw where Sy feels Young will grade out as a higher prospect than when Myles Garrett entered the draft. Some other here seem less glowing on Young being a generational talent.
Just curious what the talent evaluators here think? Is Young just the best edge in this draft or one of the best of the past 10 drafts coming out of college?
We’re talking
N. Bosa
M. Garrett
J. Bosa
J. Clowney
K. Mack
V. Miller
M. Williams
J. Peppers
I’m sure I’m missing a few. But these are the big time prospects I remember coming out of college.
It's a tough answer, because Garrett is/ and was no slouch, but I think Young affects the game more than Garrett ever did. Young is better against the run, and from the games I've watched, he hustles like crazy.
The only thing left, for me, is how is he going to do against top SEC competition, which is what Garrett had to face week in and week out. My sense is that he's going to be a monster in the playoffs, and I can't wait to watch.
That isn’t what I said....I said I recall Sy stating Young will grade out higher than Garrett dis coming out.
I always thought the last edge which graded higher than Garret in the past 20 years was Julius Peppers. So it Young will grade out higher than Garrett come draft time, that is some prospect.
I don't think he is as much of a slam dunk safe pick as either Bosa brother.
I think his upside is higher then any the players that I mentioned.
Bosas are physically gifted but their technique coming out was incredibly advanced for college players.
If he’s 85% you trade down
Plays very hard, maybe not as much in the beginning of the Michigan game but toward the end he was bringing it.
He will look very good in Blue.
He looks like a franchise QB.
There is a rumor on the dark web that he can turn liquid into solids just by staring at it.
He was touched by God's pinky which means he is a certainty to be a generational gold jacket guy, unless he is drafted by the Giants in which case he will always be hurt and stink until we trade him and he becomes an All-Pro.
This is gospel.
Sy also said DeShone Kizer and Nathan Peterman were better than Mahomes etc etc. His scouting success rate is pretty shaky.
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Sy said that Young was on track to grade out as the highest defensive player he's graded since Myles Garrett.
Sy also said DeShone Kizer and Nathan Peterman were better than Mahomes etc etc. His scouting success rate is pretty shaky.
Oh so like the rest of the football world?
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In comment 14701926 Giantsfan79 said:
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Sy said that Young was on track to grade out as the highest defensive player he's graded since Myles Garrett.
Sy also said DeShone Kizer and Nathan Peterman were better than Mahomes etc etc. His scouting success rate is pretty shaky.
Oh so like the rest of the football world?
Yes, so take it all with a big grain of salt. I respect Sy’s effort and ambition, but it ain’t science.
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Sy said that Young was on track to grade out as the highest defensive player he's graded since Myles Garrett.
Sy also said DeShone Kizer and Nathan Peterman were better than Mahomes etc etc. His scouting success rate is pretty shaky.
I can see Young grading higher than others, he is more flawless and checks off more boxes. Bosas might have the same ceiling, but his floor is lower with things like injury and durability concerns.
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In comment 14701926 Giantsfan79 said:
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Sy said that Young was on track to grade out as the highest defensive player he's graded since Myles Garrett.
Sy also said DeShone Kizer and Nathan Peterman were better than Mahomes etc etc. His scouting success rate is pretty shaky.
I can see Young grading higher than others, he is more flawless and checks off more boxes. Bosas might have the same ceiling, but his floor is lower with things like injury and durability concerns.
A bit off topic but my 2 nephews played at a big public high school in Florida and played against both Bosas. Both as tight ends trying to block those monsters. They said Nick Bosa was a solid 250lbs — as a 9th GRADER — and they both recounted stories of being rag dolled by them. One of the nephews is actually pretty big too, played at Johns Hopkins — and he said he was actually scared of a 9th grade Nick.
The people, there are several, who aren’t giving glowing opinions just saw either a handful of snaps against Michigan or the box score. Also, every player has an off game, so really don’t know how some can make judgements about him.
DG said his mother could’ve scouted Barkley, well the same for Young
No Where Man : 8:53 pm : link : reply
Is he a leader.
Osi wasn't a leader. I'd take an Osi right now in a heartbeat.
He looks like a Franchise QB and the Bengals (front runners for the #1 overall pick) need a franchise QB, with Dalton aging (and mediocre to begin with) and the fact they just benched their young dude because he’s not the guy. Usually the combination of need for and availability of a franchise QB (who will likely win the Heisman and quite possibly the national championship) results in a perfect choice for #1 overall.
Similar situation as when Barkley blew everyone away as a prospect but the Browns still had to pick their franchise QB at #1, EVEN with another pick available at #4 and what was believed to be a draft with 5 possible franchise QBs. I know Young is a pass rusher and not a RB but still I I doubt the Bengals pass on Burrow if they have the #1 pick. Sets up perfectly for the Giants to take the guy that we hope will turn our defense around.
The Badgers claimed that they saw some schemes they never saw before.
I guess a lot of us will be watching Saturday night.
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No Where Man : 8:53 pm : link : reply
Is he a leader.
Osi wasn't a leader. I'd take an Osi right now in a heartbeat.
If you spend a 1st or 2nd overall pick on Osi you're a fool.
I think he's the best player in the draft, and it's not close.
@George H. Garrett was freakier and the Bosa's were more advanced with their technique. But Young has the highest upside of them all because he is a freak himself and his pass rush mechanics are just a notch below. He is so well-rounded plus he works at it. He isn't a guy who just relies on his natural talent - he's grinding in the film room and hones his craft. Special player and I hate using the word "special" because it gets overused.
I didn't like the Osi pick back then, thought Accorsi was a dummy, we already have pass rushers, we have other holes!
anyway, I'm not a talent evaluator and this probably another case of do the opposite of what I say, but other than his sacks, he doesn't seem to do a lot more elsewhere????