Hypothetical: Would you sign up for this right now yes or no

Absolutely not.

In comment 14702058 Metnut said:

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then hell no.

Exactly. Fix the source of the problem.

I’ve never seen you go to bat so hard for someone so mediocre as Rivera.

I want someone new, up and coming, with a fresh philosophy.

I've said it on other threads but Robert Saleh is my choice for HC, and I'd like Chase Young at his disposal as well.

Gary Kubiak (who Saleh has worked for before) would be my choice for OC.

It's another half measure

This franchise needs a gut job ( aka gettleman and the scouts all fired ) and not just a paint job.

Keeping gettleman and bringing in rivera is not accomplishing much going forward and is not fixing the source of the problems .

we don't need another carolina retread...

Zero interest in recreating Carolina Panthers North.

In comment 14702086 Leg of Theismann said:

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I want someone new, up and coming, with a fresh philosophy. I've said it on other threads but Robert Saleh is my choice for HC, and I'd like Chase Young at his disposal as well. Gary Kubiak (who Saleh has worked for before) would be my choice for OC.

I like Kubiak as a HC. I think he would be a much better mentor for DJ than Shurmur.

as it fills many true expectations of our next coach.

What about Dan Quinn? I think he could be a guy who just needs a change in scenery. Give him a bigtime OC and young DC (Mayo perhaps) and off you go with Chase Young as the pick in Rd 1.

In comment 14702096 bw in dc said:

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In comment 14702086 Leg of Theismann said: Quote: Health wise Kubiak is not a HC option. I want someone new, up and coming, with a fresh philosophy. I've said it on other threads but Robert Saleh is my choice for HC, and I'd like Chase Young at his disposal as well. Gary Kubiak (who Saleh has worked for before) would be my choice for OC. I like Kubiak as a HC. I think he would be a much better mentor for DJ than Shurmur.

might as well get Chase Young.

HC is the biggest piece of the puzzle and you can do a lot worse than Rivera.

RR is light years ahead of BM n PS.

Add chase young have a solid FA and we will be improved.

Draft young
Then OL in 2 n 3

Resign
Williams
Golden

Sign
Schobert/Littleton
Conklin/d Williams
Maybe a FS like Simmons or mccourty?

After firing Reese, Ross and Mac then DG revamping the scouting department, purging almost every bad apple and Reese/Ross player WAS the tear down.

I don't see them throwing all that rebuild away after 2 years.

DG has done enough good things: Jones/Barkley multiple promising late round picks to warrant continuing with his rebuild with a new coaching staff to get the best of these players. Rivera/Turner would be a nice combo. McCaffery is playing amazing under Norv and I think Barkley would too. He also get the most out of that back up QB. Norv knows offense and Rivera knows defense.

Id prefer Harbaugh or maybe Urban Meyer but I like the combo a lot.

Solid HC; super OC; and generational pass rusher and solid run defender who impacts as a rookie.

It’s not perfect, but it solves many problems...Ron is the defensive minded HC many of us crave, and Norv Turner as our OC, is a HUGE upgrade of murmer’s pathetic play calling....I think we’d have a really good chance to compete for the division with these coaching changes and a good draft (between Young and Barkley we’d have two of the most heralded draft talents of the last 20 years)

offseason. I have ZERO interest in coaches with no head coaching experience and the guys who I know are better coaches than Rivera don't seem like fits for this situation (Harbaugh especially).

I'm not a fan of DG, but I don't have a problem with him sticking around if the new coach actually wants that and is given more decision-making power than DG.

yes if it means DG is fired
no if it means DG is still here

Still prefer Matt Ruhle as HC. But if hiring Rivera guanrees the Giants Chase Young, I’m n.

Harbaugh HC
Rivera DC
McCarthy OC

Trade down for an additional First and second rounder

Obviously this won’t happen but it’s a dream

That would be the best outcome if Gettleman was retained. But, I don’t think that is the best for this franchise going forward.

I think this is the ideal time to overhaul football operations.

In comment 14702178 Earl the goat said:

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Harbaugh HC Rivera DC McCarthy OC Trade down for an additional First and second rounder Obviously this won’t happen but it’s a dream

I dont like McCarthy at all. The Green Bay offense seemed to be effective only due to Rodger's ability to create. Those two could not work together and I did not see another team hire McCarthy yet either. Makes you wonder why...

I don’t want our third straight WCO specialist HC buried in a play sheet.

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As long as there are also changes to the FO

Either chris Mara or Gettleman need to go at a bare minimum

Fire DG. Fire Shurmur. Fire the Maras (those with mgmt roles). Fire the scouts.

Bring in a new football guy/mgmt team to build the org from the ground up.

This should be our mantra.

Period.

unless Gettleman is fired.

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In comment 14702236 BlueVinnie said:

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unless Gettleman is fired.

This

With Rivera, but he is extremely mediocre.

He had some terrible seasons in Carolina and almost got canned in I believe his first 3 seasons. Drafted Cam and that turned things around.

We could certainly do worse, but I think we can do better.

The man has TWICE been voted coach of the year. Sustained success on one team is very rare and a change of situation hold we’ll do the trick. Remember Shurmer was like our fourth choice. It’s not like coaches were beating down the door to coach this team and if the fact that DG is here helps seal the deal on an experienced head coach like RR then I’m in.

In comment 14702093 bw in dc said:

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Zero interest in recreating Carolina Panthers North.

Are we trading for Cam Newton too?

These sort of comments are beyond simple minded.

the best case Mara scenario. I think only Rivera will happen.

In comment 14702251 BigBlueDownTheShore said:

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With Rivera, but he is extremely mediocre. He had some terrible seasons in Carolina and almost got canned in I believe his first 3 seasons. Drafted Cam and that turned things around. We could certainly do worse, but I think we can do better.

This is not at all what happened. He drafted Cam his first year in Carolina. Went 6-10 & 7-9 in his first 2 years. Then he went to Divisional round of the playoffs twice and a SB the next three years.

but only to get barkely and Jones under Norv turner to see what he could do with them.

But if Gettleman is back, then aside from Chase, this is just more shuffling of chairs.

I have no confidence in Gettleman's ability to build a team, so any offseason plan that involves him coming back is, in my opinion, a poor one.

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In comment 14702466 Giants in 07 said:

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apparently it's not so obvious.

Saying no is laughable. Of course I would. It's like some of you guys haven't been watching the Giants (which I get).

That is a competent staff and a high end pick that fills a need. It's as if people are holding out for Bill Belichick.

this is just about the best case scenario we could hope for. To be clear, I want a complete house cleaning. Gettelman has done nothing to show he deserves to stay. But the Giants have shown themselves to be a half measure type of organization. So if they fire Shurmur but keep DG, yeah I guess this would be alright. Blah

In comment 14702471 Britt in VA said:

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In comment 14702466 Giants in 07 said: Quote: . apparently it's not so obvious.

This site has lost its collective mind.

We could (and probably will) do worse.

but i'm so desperate at this point

you could have typed anything involving Shurmur and the whole staff being fired on Dec 30 and i would agree with it.

In comment 14702268 JFIB said:

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The man has TWICE been voted coach of the year. Sustained success on one team is very rare and a change of situation hold we’ll do the trick. Remember Shurmer was like our fourth choice. It’s not like coaches were beating down the door to coach this team and if the fact that DG is here helps seal the deal on an experienced head coach like RR then I’m in.

But hes a retread, lol Giant fans are stupid.

Absolutely would do this, Don't forget the Pittsburgh connection too. Those bitching about his Panthers record, his team always palyed hard and tough and had to overcome a lot of mistakes made by Cam -they say Cam giveth and Cam taketh away.

Those saying no are crazy.

He'd be my first choice for DC if he doesn't land a new HC gig. he'd be a fallback position for HC if the better options don't pan out.

Hell yes.

However, my gut tells me we really want someone less old school, really more than one person with football operations as a top priority. This needs to be fixed from the head down.

That said? I'll root like hell for him if we hire him. I'm not arrogant enough to think I know how well he would work out here. And it HAS to be better than what the hell we are currently watching every Sunday...

Will a root for them and be happy about it. Yes, put almost any coach and chase young and I am gonna roll. Not sold on Rivera. I would prefer to hire a big name guy that demands control of the roster. Too tired of, is it the coach or GM garbage.