It goes both ways. There was a poster a couple days ago trying to tell me Daniel Jones is a better quarterback than Lamar Jackson. And of course there's been the baseless optimism over the 2018 and 2019 draft classes.
Well it's not an outrageous thought. As a pure thrower of the football (physically, mentally, etc), I'm not so sure Lamar Jackson is all that great. Pretty good maybe, but he's getting RG3 2012 easy level throws on the regular, with perhaps an even more powerful running game. Kaepernick used to get those easy throws in late 2012 as well.
By the narrative people are using for Lamar right now, Kap and RG3 were top 5 QBs in 2012, for sure. RG3 had a great TD/INT ratio, offensive rookie of the year, managed to move the ball on a tough seattle defense in the playoffs. Kap actually carried the 49ers in the 2012 playoffs when they allowed 31 to Green Bay at home, 24 to the Falcons, and still put up 31 in a SB first losing effort (i.e. losing a SB scoring more than 30 points).
Maybe Lamar will develop into a good QB in the traditional sense, but that remains to be seen. It took Russell Wilson 8 seasons to finally carry the Seahawks the way the national narrative claimed he was doing from day 1.
For now Jackson's certainly explosive and effective.
But when Jones or Goff or Garoppolo have a game as ugly as last year's playoff game against the Chargers, I'll be holding my praise for Jackson tight to the vest.
I'm no expert but you seem overly concerned with "narratives".
Wants Eli to beat the Eagles on monday night to put the Eagles fans out of their misery.
It won't happen though, Eli has a terrible career record against the lousy Eagles.
That and Shurmur is still doing the play calling, and he's the worst head coach in Giants history.
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It goes both ways. There was a poster a couple days ago trying to tell me Daniel Jones is a better quarterback than Lamar Jackson. And of course there's been the baseless optimism over the 2018 and 2019 draft classes.
Well it's not an outrageous thought. As a pure thrower of the football (physically, mentally, etc), I'm not so sure Lamar Jackson is all that great. Pretty good maybe, but he's getting RG3 2012 easy level throws on the regular, with perhaps an even more powerful running game. Kaepernick used to get those easy throws in late 2012 as well.
By the narrative people are using for Lamar right now, Kap and RG3 were top 5 QBs in 2012, for sure. RG3 had a great TD/INT ratio, offensive rookie of the year, managed to move the ball on a tough seattle defense in the playoffs. Kap actually carried the 49ers in the 2012 playoffs when they allowed 31 to Green Bay at home, 24 to the Falcons, and still put up 31 in a SB first losing effort (i.e. losing a SB scoring more than 30 points).
Maybe Lamar will develop into a good QB in the traditional sense, but that remains to be seen. It took Russell Wilson 8 seasons to finally carry the Seahawks the way the national narrative claimed he was doing from day 1.
For now Jackson's certainly explosive and effective.
But when Jones or Goff or Garoppolo have a game as ugly as last year's playoff game against the Chargers, I'll be holding my praise for Jackson tight to the vest.
I'm no expert but you seem overly concerned with "narratives".
It won't happen though, Eli has a terrible career record against the lousy Eagles.
That and Shurmur is still doing the play calling, and he's the worst head coach in Giants history.