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Eli Possibly to Bucs after Season?

Zeke's Alibi : 12/4/2019 1:31 pm
So I'm bullshitting with my buddy down here in TB and we are talking about QBs next year and who does what. I thought Eli's only natural landing destination was Tenn, but that isn't happening anymore. We start talking about the Bucs and what they do at QB next year. I said draft, but Arians like his veterans QBs and Eli is a natural fit for his offense. I could see them drafting a couple oline, signing some guys, giving Eli a 2 year 40 million contract and letting him rip down here in the warm weather. I'd love to see it, even though his time with us is over, if he truly has any left in the tank Arians will be able to get it out of him.
I really think it's over  
mattlawson : 12/4/2019 1:32 pm : link
and he should retire in Blue.
He would do well in that offense  
George from PA : 12/4/2019 1:32 pm : link
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Have to think Jameis  
Oscar : 12/4/2019 1:33 pm : link
Is a better option than Eli. At least he has a live arm. Eli turns the ball over a ton, doesn’t have the arm he used to and can’t move at all.

Think Eli’s job next year will be dad/husband and maybe occasional TV work.
interesting  
mittenedman : 12/4/2019 1:33 pm : link
idea. Arians has one of the few Gilbride-like systems left in the NFL
I dont think  
cjac : 12/4/2019 1:34 pm : link
Eli wants to retire, i could see this happening.

I think he is going to stay in the NFC
I think  
GmeninPSL : 12/4/2019 1:36 pm : link
Manning & Rivers are done! And big Ben is not far behind coming off a season ending injury. Brees and Brady survive and will continue to start. Manning and Rivers would be very, very questionable as starting QB's in the 2020 NFL season.
Why  
cokeduplt : 12/4/2019 1:39 pm : link
Would they sign a 39 year old QB to start, it doesn’t make much sense. I’d be furious if I were a Buc fan
Jameis  
ajr2456 : 12/4/2019 1:48 pm : link
While on track to lead the league in interceptions is going to be at the top of the league in yards and TDs.

They're better off keeping him.
We can only hope  
JFIB : 12/4/2019 1:55 pm : link
That Eli gets signed by another team. We will need the comp pick.
jameis is a bust  
Torrag : 12/4/2019 2:03 pm : link
He can't read a coverage to save his life. Yes I like his arm and he makes some plays. He just can't protect the ball. Not doesn't...can't. That's why he won't be a starting QB ever again in this league after this season.
Bucs fans are sick of Jameis, but if Eli can truly still play, I'm not  
Zeke's Alibi : 12/4/2019 2:04 pm : link
saying he can, it will probably be down here.
RE: jameis is a bust  
ajr2456 : 12/4/2019 2:05 pm : link
In comment 14702950 Torrag said:
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He can't read a coverage to save his life. Yes I like his arm and he makes some plays. He just can't protect the ball. Not doesn't...can't. That's why he won't be a starting QB ever again in this league after this season.


Have you seen some of the starting QBs in the league?

I’d bet you’re wrong
I probably overvalue what Eli is worth honestly, at 15 million per  
Zeke's Alibi : 12/4/2019 2:06 pm : link
for a couple years, why wouldn't you bring him in if you can bolster the rest of the team. They need defensive backs and some olineman, but the receiving core and front 7 are elite.
Jameis is terrible, a coach killer. Who is a worst starting QB in the  
Zeke's Alibi : 12/4/2019 2:07 pm : link
league that started out the season as starter?
I’d bet you’re wrong  
Torrag : 12/4/2019 2:10 pm : link
We'll see. To me he's a backup. He'll see playing time when the starter is injured or fails and they get desperate.
Jameis first 5 years  
ajr2456 : 12/4/2019 2:15 pm : link
versus Eli's 1st five years:

Jameis has averaged .8 interceptions more and averaged 2.4 more touchdowns per game.

He's 25 years old. He'll be a starter on a team next year.
There might be room in Jax  
Diver_Down : 12/4/2019 2:18 pm : link
for Eli to sign. They can't keep Foles after benching them. They will have to move him. That leaves Minshew as the only guy. If Coughlin survives, Eli might look like a dependable backup that could serve as a valued mentor to a young QB.

Tampa is also a possibility for the reason already mentioned. People who think that TB should keep Winston haven't been paying attention. When he was left off the season's marketing efforts on banners and tickets, it was a clear signal they were ready to move on. The 5th year option was guaranteed when they didn't release him on the league's new year after passing his physical. The mistake was drafting White instead of taking a QB. Meanwhile, they were stuck paying the turnover machine $24M for a single season.
RE: Have to think Jameis  
HoodieGelo : 12/4/2019 2:32 pm : link
In comment 14702887 Oscar said:
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Is a better option than Eli. At least he has a live arm. Eli turns the ball over a ton, doesn’t have the arm he used to and can’t move at all.

Think Eli’s job next year will be dad/husband and maybe occasional TV work.


Uhhh, Eli turns it over a ton? We're talking about Jameis Winston here...
Eli would do well  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 12/4/2019 2:44 pm : link
with those beastly 50/50 receivers which a pocket passer needs. Look at Brady.
Eli no longer has the arm for that offense.  
Heisenberg : 12/4/2019 2:51 pm : link
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RE: Jameis first 5 years  
japanhead : 12/4/2019 3:05 pm : link
In comment 14702965 ajr2456 said:
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versus Eli's 1st five years:

Jameis has averaged .8 interceptions more and averaged 2.4 more touchdowns per game.

He's 25 years old. He'll be a starter on a team next year.


it's idiotic to compare TD pass totals for QBs playing in different eras.

use the eyeball test. winston is a terrible quarterback and eli's 2008 performance was dominant in 2008 even though he didn't throw for a ton of touchdowns.
That's actually as a good fit for Eli as anywhere  
widmerseyebrow : 12/4/2019 3:07 pm : link
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Eli no longer fits the mold  
morrison40 : 12/4/2019 3:09 pm : link
Of the modern QB and his skill set has eroded. He should retire in good health assuming Shurmurs Offense doesn’t get him killed against the 🦅
Before Next Season Ends Eli Will Be 40  
Jim in Tampa : 12/4/2019 3:18 pm : link
Eli also hasn't played well in 3+ years (and no, it's not ALL on the other players and coaches).

In a league that has moved on from imobile QBs, I'd be very surprised if another team offered Eli a starting job. I'd be shocked if he somehow got one AND played well.

My guess is that Eli will put some feelers out there but once he realizes that there are no good offers, he'll retire as a Giant.
RE: RE: Jameis first 5 years  
ajr2456 : 12/4/2019 3:20 pm : link
In comment 14703026 japanhead said:
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In comment 14702965 ajr2456 said:


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versus Eli's 1st five years:

Jameis has averaged .8 interceptions more and averaged 2.4 more touchdowns per game.

He's 25 years old. He'll be a starter on a team next year.



it's idiotic to compare TD pass totals for QBs playing in different eras.

use the eyeball test. winston is a terrible quarterback and eli's 2008 performance was dominant in 2008 even though he didn't throw for a ton of touchdowns.


Different eras? Its not the 50s vs the 2000s here.

Eli's 2008 was dominant? The Giants passed for 200 yards in only 7 games that season. They rushed for 200+ in 6. Holy revisionist history
eli was dominant in 2008  
japanhead : 12/4/2019 3:29 pm : link
because the team was. he didn't need to wing it all over the place with a three-headed monster running game with hedgecock at FB. but eli was running that entire offense, make no mistake.

if you don't think the league's changed drastically in the last 5-7 years i don't know what to tell you.
So the Giants were dominant because of their running game  
ajr2456 : 12/4/2019 3:33 pm : link
not that Eli was dominant
but hey, if you want to believe that eli had a lousy  
japanhead : 12/4/2019 3:33 pm : link
year in 2008 and that jameis winston is the better quarterback then by all means have at it.
dude eli was running the whole offense  
japanhead : 12/4/2019 3:36 pm : link
eli was the one calling out all the protections and checking into the running plays. look if you want to believe that eli was lousy or mediocre in 2008, go right ahead.

i think it's asinine to say that winston is the better player.

agree to disagree.
RE: dude eli was running the whole offense  
ajr2456 : 12/4/2019 3:41 pm : link
In comment 14703073 japanhead said:
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eli was the one calling out all the protections and checking into the running plays. look if you want to believe that eli was lousy or mediocre in 2008, go right ahead.

i think it's asinine to say that winston is the better player.

agree to disagree.


Where did I say Winston was better? I said he was 25 years old and his numbers are nearly identical to Eli's through the first five years and that theres enough there that he'll be a starting QB again.
RE: RE: dude eli was running the whole offense  
japanhead : 12/4/2019 3:44 pm : link
In comment 14703084 ajr2456 said:
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In comment 14703073 japanhead said:


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eli was the one calling out all the protections and checking into the running plays. look if you want to believe that eli was lousy or mediocre in 2008, go right ahead.

i think it's asinine to say that winston is the better player.

agree to disagree.



Where did I say Winston was better? I said he was 25 years old and his numbers are nearly identical to Eli's through the first five years and that theres enough there that he'll be a starting QB again.


yea dude i know you're all about the numbers. i was saying that it's about the eyeball test for me.

winston does not look like a franchise quarterback through his first five years to me, whereas eli clearly did.

i dont think winston is the type of quarterback you give a second contract to, whereas eli clearly was.
My money is on  
montanagiant : 12/4/2019 3:45 pm : link
Retirement
Never gonna happen  
Bradshaw's Decal : 12/4/2019 6:17 pm : link
Elizabeth sunburns really easily :) He'll retire in blue rather than go to that shit show...
Now I know how I sounded in 1994...  
Big Blue Blogger : 12/5/2019 3:25 am : link
... talking about how well Phil Simms would play in Cleveland, or Tampa, or Atlanta, or wherever.
RE: Now I know how I sounded in 1994...  
Raultney : 12/5/2019 4:15 am : link
In comment 14703573 Big Blue Blogger said:
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... talking about how well Phil Simms would play in Cleveland, or Tampa, or Atlanta, or wherever.

Except that in Simms' last season, the team won 11 games and at age 39, we felt like he could still play. Eli doesn't seem to be where Simms was at the same stage in their careers.
At this stage, Winston vs Eli  
section125 : 12/5/2019 6:58 am : link
is not even a consideration. I'm not sure that Tampa signs Winston to a big contract, but somebody will. Nobody is that desperate that they would sign Eli. Love him to death, but he is no longer anymore than a backup.
RE: Have to think Jameis  
LS : 12/5/2019 8:14 am : link
In comment 14702887 Oscar said:
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Is a better option than Eli. At least he has a live arm. Eli turns the ball over a ton, doesn’t have the arm he used to and can’t move at all.

Think Eli’s job next year will be dad/husband and maybe occasional TV work.


Winston turns it over his fair share. He leads the NFL in interceptions.
If I am running the Bucs organization...  
EricJ : 12/5/2019 8:17 am : link
I am not going to replace Winston with Eli. The idea of that is absolutely ridiculous.

Winston throws his interceptions but Eli has also lead the league in that category before.

Winston is scoring points and he can move the chains with his legs if he needs to.

Eli is at retirement's door. This just is NOT happening. Almost as ridiculous as Bill B coming here to coach the Giants
I agree with Zeke, Arians O is taylor-made  
Section331 : 12/5/2019 9:06 am : link
for Eli's strengths. I think how he plays this week, and in any subsequent games if he gets any, will go a long way in telling NFL brass if he has anything left.
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