Per Andy Martino, the Yankees are all in for him and haven’t been this hot for a top free agent in years.
Today’s reports from guys like Sherman and Heyman indicate the meeting went well and the Yankees assured Cole the money will be there and Cole in turn eased Yankees concerns over the perceived industry belief that he prefers the west coast. Passan says Cole’s top priorities are winning and being the best pitcher of his generation.
Before the off-season, I was very pessimistic about our chances because how the FO has operated the past few years and the hesitancy to go over the third tier of the luxury tax. But, I think Coles the guy that Cashman, the FO, and analytics team determined is worth going over the third tier, though I think they’ll try to unload some guys like Happ. Also, Paxton and Tanaka are off the books next year too, so the move makes sense in solidifying the rotation for the future.
All in all, I’m becoming quite optimistic about our chances.
That’s true, but guys like Sherman, Passan, and Martino also saying positive things.
I think if it were less certain, the Yankees would be counterbalancing any pro-Cole stories if not to maintain leverage then to keep the fan base expectations in line.
I think if it were less certain, the Yankees would be counterbalancing any pro-Cole stories if not to maintain leverage then to keep the fan base expectations in line.
Exactly, the only thing was they feared he would prefer the west coast and he put that to rest. This is very different from Machado/Harper. Cole checks off all the boxes, especially analytics
This is true....I'd only bet on Happ being gone for certain. I'd try to keep Paxton and see what Tanaka wants to do.
Plus Ellsbury’s $26 million is off the books after one more year.
Yanks have to plan for a monster Judge deal soon too, and likely Sanchez, but you’re right about other money coming off soon too
Cole would put them over the luxury tax for 2020, but not beyond the realm they could be back under by 2021. Especially if a new CBA pushes it up even higher
Worry about 3 years from now 3 years from now. Sign Cole and we might have won 2-3 championships by then.
Worry about 3 years from now 3 years from now. Sign Cole and we might have won 2-3 championships by then.
With the state of the MLB right now and labour wars on the horizon, i'm all in on this.
Sign Cole, Strasburg, Treinen, Betances and make Frazier our starting CFer.
Exactly how I feel. Until it actually happens,I'm pessimistic. I have no faith that Hal will go over the 3rd cap level!
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They won't be cheap over that time period but no need to worry about handing them huge contracts until 3 years from now. Plus who knows how both of them will perform (Sanchez) or stay healthy (both).
Worry about 3 years from now 3 years from now. Sign Cole and we might have won 2-3 championships by then.
With the state of the MLB right now and labour wars on the horizon, i'm all in on this.
Sign Cole, Strasburg, Treinen, Betances and make Frazier our starting CFer.
If they sign Cole at $250+ Million,they're not signing Strasburg. Frazier in CF? Did you watch him play the corner OF positions this year? His best position is DH!
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They won't be cheap over that time period but no need to worry about handing them huge contracts until 3 years from now. Plus who knows how both of them will perform (Sanchez) or stay healthy (both).
Worry about 3 years from now 3 years from now. Sign Cole and we might have won 2-3 championships by then.
With the state of the MLB right now and labour wars on the horizon, i'm all in on this.
Sign Cole, Strasburg, Treinen, Betances and make Frazier our starting CFer.
Frazier our starting CF? I don't think he could start in left or right field for a little league team.
Stanton is a better OF than Frazier, he is just very stiff looking. You don't see him butchering fly balls. I think we are so used to seeing Gardy out there we take it for granted that that is the way LF should be played.
FWIW, Judge can very well play CF. He is an excellent OF. The Yankees just don't want him running around crazy out there.
Frazier needs, and I am hoping he has been during the off season, to work his ass off in ST. He has the tools - speed and an arm. There is absolutely no reason for him to be less than an average OF. None. With his speed he should be a plus defender.
I think we need both Clint and Andujar in the lineup everyday. dont want to say regardless of deffense but just make it work.
If Frazier cant play LF better then Stanton he can DH.
If Andjuar cant play 3rd let him try 1st.
Im all in on trading Urshella. I think he is at peak value right now and dont like that he cant play the middle infield if he doesnt hit he doent have the flexability to be the defensive utility guy.
Im all in on trading Urshella. I think he is at peak value right now and dont like that he cant play the middle infield if he doesnt hit he doent have the flexability to be the defensive utility guy.
After watching Urshela play 3rd base, there is little chance they trade him now. They do have options with Estrada and DJLM to play there because of defense. I don't think Andujar is an option at 3rd. Love what his bat was two years ago, so he needs to fit somewhere. He has always been a demon at the plate.
Guys they need to find a spot for:
Voit
Ford
Andujar
Frazier
Wade
This situation had gone completely dark - it's been kinda weird.
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is the word on German?
This situation had gone completely dark - it's been kinda weird.
Very weird. It should be quite simple. Investigation, interviews with both and a decision. Is MLBPA involved and fighting it behind the scene?
Not fair to German or the Yanks.
Happ for sure is gone, possibly before next year. But Tanaka and Paxton will probably have to be resigned or replaced at equal or higher salaries, so that could be a wash.
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Tanaka, Paxton and Happ may all be gone after next season. It’s a lot easier to fill in the back end of the rotation if we plant Cole and Sevy at the top.
Happ for sure is gone, possibly before next year. But Tanaka and Paxton will probably have to be resigned or replaced at equal or higher salaries, so that could be a wash.
Montgomery, Lasagna, Garcia, King and Nelson are all knocking on the door this year at AAA and coming up right behind them are Schmidt, Gil, Medina, and other super talented arms.
If NYY lands Cole and can sit Cole and Sevy 1-2 atop the rotation 2020 and beyond, the other spots will be filled by the youngsters - perhaps Tanaka goes the way of Kuroda and renews at 1 year intervals....
If he's stil healthy and productive at the end of next year Tanaka will be 31. With MLB giving big $ and long-term contracts to pitchers of far less talent, why would Tanaka only want a one year deal?
As I recall Kuruda missed Japan and didn't want to get stuck in a multi-year deal with a MLB team. I highly doubt it's some kind of cultural thing where all Japaneese pitchers only want one year contracts after they're 30.
Paxton is another story. I fully expect them to go all to sign him to a long term deal. He's the type of K heavy pitcher they like.
A rotation fronted by Cole, Sevy and Paxton is pretty damn impressive. You can't have 5 $20M+ starters.....you need to have some guys in the rotation who are young(wish) and cheap. I could see the Yanks filling out the last two spots with German/Deivi Garcia/Schmidt/Loaisiga etc.
Paxton is another story. I fully expect them to go all to sign him to a long term deal. He's the type of K heavy pitcher they like.
A rotation fronted by Cole, Sevy and Paxton is pretty damn impressive. You can't have 5 $20M+ starters.....you need to have some guys in the rotation who are young(wish) and cheap. I could see the Yanks filling out the last two spots with German/Deivi Garcia/Schmidt/Loaisiga etc.
We'll see on Cole, as somebody said, I'll believe it when I see it.
I think the Yanks want to see Paxton stay healthy for the year, before they decide to keep him on longer.
They might try to keep him, but they generally wait until the player hits free agency.
The problem this offseason will be trying to move somebody like Happ.
That vested option makes it a bit more difficult.
Only 27 starts, or 165 innings is not that difficult.
I don't see why a team would trade for him for example,
and then put him under wraps, no logic in that.
They can move Frazier as far as I am concerned, his act
is beginning to get a bit stale. His defensive adventures don't make it easier to move him either.
I don't know why a NL team would trade for him.
I think the chances of the Yankees giving DK a 3-year deal, with or without Cole, are near zero.
I think a much more likely name to keep an eye on is Robbie Ray. I have a feeling he's in pinstripes if they don't land Cole. Possibly even if they do land Cole.
Barf on Kuechel. I'd hope they don't do that.
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the Dodgers get Cole and NYY gets Kuechel on a 3-year deal.
Barf on Kuechel. I'd hope they don't do that.
Okay will that settles it.....
Ground ball pitcher, excellent location inside and out, eats innings, low contact velocity and is a winner in the post season. Yes barf on Kuechel.
0.0% chance of this happening. Yanks will have no interest in Keuchel on a 3 year deal. If they don't get Cole I'd look for them to try and sign Strasburg, and if that fails then look to upgrade the rotation via trade.
On a one year deal though. Big difference.