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Nine-Tails : 12/4/2019 8:33 pm
Per Andy Martino, the Yankees are all in for him and haven’t been this hot for a top free agent in years.

Today’s reports from guys like Sherman and Heyman indicate the meeting went well and the Yankees assured Cole the money will be there and Cole in turn eased Yankees concerns over the perceived industry belief that he prefers the west coast. Passan says Cole’s top priorities are winning and being the best pitcher of his generation.

Before the off-season, I was very pessimistic about our chances because how the FO has operated the past few years and the hesitancy to go over the third tier of the luxury tax. But, I think Coles the guy that Cashman, the FO, and analytics team determined is worth going over the third tier, though I think they’ll try to unload some guys like Happ. Also, Paxton and Tanaka are off the books next year too, so the move makes sense in solidifying the rotation for the future.

All in all, I’m becoming quite optimistic about our chances.
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It's weird...  
Dunedin81 : 12/9/2019 9:27 am : link
Munson is borderline now if you look at WAR, JAWS, etc. But he's a lot more productive/valuable than Molina and comparable to Posey (Posey's career could go a couple different directions) and both seem likely to get in.
he's 8th alltime in WAR7 for catchers  
Greg from LI : 12/9/2019 9:38 am : link
He would have been an easy HOFer if he had lived to finish out a longer career. RoY, MVP, and a major contributor to two championship teams - in 30 playoff games, he hit .357/.378/.496.
Gammons and Nightengale have each said...  
Dunedin81 : 12/9/2019 10:54 am : link
some form of "The Dodgers have not engaged with Boras on Cole" which could simply mean they haven't made their initial offer yet or it could mean they think 7 years is too long for a pitcher.
RE: Good to see the Yankees going all out for Cole  
Carson53 : 12/9/2019 11:32 am : link
In comment 14708185 dpinzow said:
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He’s the undeniable staff ace needed to win a title.

I haven’t seen a thread on this, but Marvin Miller, the MLBPA leader from the 1970s, and Ted Simmons (terrific cardinals catcher) were voted into the hall of fame by the veterans committee. If Simmons got in (and he is deserving), then Munson surely has to get in because he was the best catcher in the 1970s not named Bench and the only reason he didn’t put up better numbers was due to tragedy
.

Good to see Marvin Miller finally get in, as an FYI,
not called the 'veteran's committee' anymore, that changed a few years back, now a 'Modern Day Committee'.
It is 16 ex-players, executives, etc.
You have to get 12 out of 16 votes from them or 75% (similar to regular vote on ballot)....
was hoping Munson and Donnie Baseball would get in,
but didn't think it would happen.
Munson just didn't play long enough, Simmons played 21 years for example. If Thurm would have played maybe
15 years, but unfortunately that wasn't meant to be.
RE: he's 8th alltime in WAR7 for catchers  
Stu11 : 12/9/2019 12:10 pm : link
In comment 14708240 Greg from LI said:
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He would have been an easy HOFer if he had lived to finish out a longer career. RoY, MVP, and a major contributor to two championship teams - in 30 playoff games, he hit .357/.378/.496.

Another cool stat- Thurman played in 16 WS games and hit safely in all but 1. Guy won 3 gold gloves, 7 AS appearances in 10 seasons(when making the AS game was a feat and another HOF C in the AL at the time) incredibly clutch hitter. Only got 3 votes yesterday. I just don't understand how little support he's gotten over the years.
Funny Munson story  
Milton : 12/9/2019 2:32 pm : link
It was the 1976 World Series. Munson was at the plate and there is a huddle on the mound to discuss pitching to him. Finally Sparky Anderson says, "It doesn't matter how we pitch him, he's gonna get a hit." Munson went 9 for 17 in the series.
Just don't understand how Puckett gets in with a shortened career  
Greg from LI : 12/9/2019 2:35 pm : link
but Munson doesn't
RE: Funny Munson story  
Stu11 : 12/9/2019 2:37 pm : link
In comment 14708837 Milton said:
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It was the 1976 World Series. Munson was at the plate and there is a huddle on the mound to discuss pitching to him. Finally Sparky Anderson says, "It doesn't matter how we pitch him, he's gonna get a hit." Munson went 9 for 17 in the series.

That really was a golden era for C's. You had HOFer's Fisk/Carter/Bench and now Simmons plus Munson. Making either leagues AS team there was a herculean feat.
RE: Just don't understand how Puckett gets in with a shortened career  
mfsd : 12/9/2019 2:44 pm : link
In comment 14708841 Greg from LI said:
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but Munson doesn't


Especially bc Puckett turned out to be a scumbag after his retirement. But the writers all loved him in his playing days
RE: Just don't understand how Puckett gets in with a shortened career  
Stu11 : 12/9/2019 2:45 pm : link
In comment 14708841 Greg from LI said:
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but Munson doesn't

Exactly. The longevity argument makes no sense. Make the requirement 15 years instead of 10 if you don't feel 10 is enough.
Strasburg resigned with  
section125 : 12/9/2019 4:40 pm : link
Nats 7yrs/$245....

Project Cole now 8yrs/$300...oh Boy!
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