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Eli’s return is something to cherish win or lose

RELICDOA : 12/4/2019 8:49 pm
Eli has been a staple for the Giants for so long that for many younger fans he is the only QB they’ve witness play up until DJ. For me he is a tie to my father who passed Dec 3, 2010. The joy of that ‘08 Super Bowl win has been unmatched! He is the only QB my daughters can remember (17 and 20 years old now) The Giants aren't just a sports team to my family. It’s a family staple that dates back to my Grandfather. Every Sunday the entire family gets together to have a big dinner and to watch the Giants. So In essence Eli’s departure is the end of a period of time...whether it be when your kids were little or great memories with loved ones who have passed. Hopefully Eli goes out with a good showing!
Amen  
robbieballs2003 : 12/4/2019 8:50 pm : link
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I am actually intrigued by what kind of greeting he'll  
robbieballs2003 : 12/4/2019 8:52 pm : link
Get from Philly fans who boo everything.
I was thinking the same thing?  
RELICDOA : 12/4/2019 8:53 pm : link
Maybe a show of respect?.....wait it’s Philly!!! Lol
RE: I am actually intrigued by what kind of greeting he'll  
moze1021 : 12/4/2019 8:57 pm : link
In comment 14703368 robbieballs2003 said:
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Get from Philly fans who boo everything.


Living in Philly I'd be surprised if it's more than apathy... Very little respect for Eli down here, mostly due to jealousy and/or ignorance of anything outside Philadelphia..


Nice Post  
joeinpa : 12/4/2019 9:02 pm : link
Relic
I agree  
ChathamMark : 12/4/2019 9:04 pm : link
It's like running into an old friend you never expected to see. Win or lose, it's a must watch for most Giants fans.
I don't want to remember Eli stumbling his way through yet another  
Greg from LI : 12/4/2019 9:06 pm : link
loss in Philly. That isn't the image of him I'd like to to be left with.
RE: I am actually intrigued by what kind of greeting he'll  
jcn56 : 12/4/2019 9:08 pm : link
In comment 14703368 robbieballs2003 said:
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Get from Philly fans who boo everything.


Seriously?
Great post  
Aspiring Slacker : 12/4/2019 9:11 pm : link
The Great Eli at the end.
I really am really going to miss him.
I’m excited.  
bradshaw44 : 12/4/2019 9:13 pm : link
I hope he rattles off four of the best games of his career resulting in 4 wins. Draft position be damned. No player is a sure thing in the draft. And also, F—k Philly.
Very good post  
montanagiant : 12/4/2019 9:15 pm : link
One I 100% agree with
He's about to start against a team  
Overseer : 12/4/2019 9:16 pm : link
that has utterly bitchslapped the Giants for 10+ years, that is playing at home where the Giants have lost 8 of the last 10 (and 1 of those victories was meaningless vs Matt Barkley), that is in a fight for the division. The Giants who are playing horribly with a shitty, injured roster including a God-awful offensive line blocking Cox and Graham.

This is likely going to be very, very ugly.

Eli Manning is family  
NYGmen58 : 12/4/2019 9:23 pm : link
PERIOD!
Yes  
mdthedream : 12/4/2019 9:27 pm : link
of course it is.
He will  
mdthedream : 12/4/2019 9:28 pm : link
get a great greeting in NJ.
RE: RE: I am actually intrigued by what kind of greeting he'll  
robbieballs2003 : 12/4/2019 9:37 pm : link
In comment 14703390 jcn56 said:
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In comment 14703368 robbieballs2003 said:


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Get from Philly fans who boo everything.



Seriously?


Yes
It's pretty funny to think  
Dave in Hoboken : 12/4/2019 9:40 pm : link
how bad the Giants have been for the last several years and wonder whether or not some fans deserve it or not.
In a season  
Irish : 12/4/2019 10:04 pm : link
That has been anything but fun, I’m looking forward to watching one of the classiest Giants ever take the field again. Nice to have something to look forward to, no matter what happens.
I don't want Eli to be the reason we LOSE the game  
SGMen : 12/4/2019 10:11 pm : link
Eli can't escape pressure anymore. He can't use his legs to sidestep pressure or create space for plays. I think he'll do just as he did games 1 and 2: fire the ball out as quickly as possible.

But I'll be honest: I want the #1 pick in the draft and the ability to trade down for D. Young and more...a fleecing.

Hire Rivera as the next HC. Maybe he even keeps the OC and some of the staff. I don't know.
I don't share the sediments here  
Ron from Ninerland : 12/4/2019 10:16 pm : link
Eli should have retired after the 2017 season. It was depressing to watch him last year. This is the greatest quarterback in Giants history and last year , he was a shadow of what he once was. If he plays on Monday he'll be rusty on top of that and he'll be playing behind an offensive line that's more horrific than it was last year. It is entirely possible that he pulls off an upset against the Eagles as dysfunctional as they are. So what ? Personally, I hope he never takes another snap. Let Tanney start and get this season over with
Its a crappy situation he comes into ..  
Bluesbreaker : 12/4/2019 10:21 pm : link
Damn sure deserves better but he will do it
with class I just hope its not one of those games
where WR's are bobbling into interceptions
or Eli is getting pummeled every play .
But we will cheer him on he a legendary Giant
RE: I don't want Eli to be the reason we LOSE the game  
mittenedman : 12/4/2019 10:28 pm : link
In comment 14703479 SGMen said:
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Eli can't escape pressure anymore. He can't use his legs to sidestep pressure or create space for plays. I think he'll do just as he did games 1 and 2: fire the ball out as quickly as possible.

But I'll be honest: I want the #1 pick in the draft and the ability to trade down for D. Young and more...a fleecing.

Hire Rivera as the next HC. Maybe he even keeps the OC and some of the staff. I don't know.


Why in the hell would you want to keep any of this staff? They are getting their collective doors blown off on both sides of the ball every week.
Nice post, Relic  
exiled : 12/4/2019 10:37 pm : link
You're right, Eli is like family at this point.
I know he'll be prepared. I know he's looking forward to playing. I just wish he had a chance in hell to win this game.
Love Eli and I hate to say this but...  
Torrag : 12/4/2019 11:35 pm : link
as much as I want to see him come in and win a game it would be bad for the franchise. Hope he throws 4 TD's and they lose 42-28 is the best I can come up with haha.
I've lived in  
dslayton86 : 12/4/2019 11:53 pm : link
the Philly area my whole life. There ain't a shot in hell Eli gets any greeting other than a hoard of boos lol. That's the Philly Charm.

And I'm sure I'm in the minority on this board, but I like that part about Philly.
I want the Eagles to win and they will because I care only  
Junior22 : 12/4/2019 11:53 pm : link
about the future of the franchise and not the ehive saying YOU SEE ELI is still a stud and should have never been benched. Eli Manning era needs to end already

How about if he plays the last 4 games that we lose all of them and he plays decent enough so that the ehive can have something to dream about.
i love eli too  
BleedBlue : 12/4/2019 11:54 pm : link
but winning is bad for us right now. we need an impact defender and chase young is staring us in the face...sorry but we need to lose
RE: I don't share the sediments here  
HomerJones45 : 12/4/2019 11:56 pm : link
In comment 14703483 Ron from Ninerland said:
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Eli should have retired after the 2017 season. It was depressing to watch him last year. This is the greatest quarterback in Giants history and last year , he was a shadow of what he once was. If he plays on Monday he'll be rusty on top of that and he'll be playing behind an offensive line that's more horrific than it was last year. It is entirely possible that he pulls off an upset against the Eagles as dysfunctional as they are. So what ? Personally, I hope he never takes another snap. Let Tanney start and get this season over with
You find strange things to be depressed over. Completed 2/3 of his passes for 4200 yards, 21 td last season.
and you idiots who want to lose  
HomerJones45 : 12/4/2019 11:59 pm : link
because of draft position because you are in love with some semi-pro at Ohio State are a strange group.
Great post  
Jim from Katonah : 12/5/2019 12:05 am : link
I think the team is going to rise to the occasion. As far as hoping that we lose for Chase Young ... it’s not the NBA ... Chase Young isn’t going to turn around the Giants any more than Myles Garrett turned around the shitty Browns. Lets be more like the Steelers and show some tenacity. Hoping that whatever last vestige of Pride this franchise has shows up on Monday night.
RE: RE: I don't share the sediments here  
Ron from Ninerland : 12/5/2019 12:06 am : link
In comment 14703541 HomerJones45 said:
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In comment 14703483 Ron from Ninerland said:


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Eli should have retired after the 2017 season. It was depressing to watch him last year. This is the greatest quarterback in Giants history and last year , he was a shadow of what he once was. If he plays on Monday he'll be rusty on top of that and he'll be playing behind an offensive line that's more horrific than it was last year. It is entirely possible that he pulls off an upset against the Eagles as dysfunctional as they are. So what ? Personally, I hope he never takes another snap. Let Tanney start and get this season over with

You find strange things to be depressed over. Completed 2/3 of his passes for 4200 yards, 21 td last season.
If you actually watched last year's games and think Eli had a good year then you are out of your mind.
RE: and you idiots who want to lose  
montanagiant : 12/5/2019 12:06 am : link
In comment 14703542 HomerJones45 said:
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because of draft position because you are in love with some semi-pro at Ohio State are a strange group.

LOL..I think Eli actually might get some love from the Philly crowd
RE: and you idiots who want to lose  
Dave in Hoboken : 12/5/2019 12:08 am : link
In comment 14703542 HomerJones45 said:
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because of draft position because you are in love with some semi-pro at Ohio State are a strange group.


Yeah, real strange. How dare they want a player that might actually help this shit defense we have. Lets win a meaningless game instead that no one will remember in a few months!

This place is seriously like the twilight zone. And that is me being very kind about it.
RE: RE: and you idiots who want to lose  
BleedBlue : 12/5/2019 12:17 am : link
In comment 14703547 montanagiant said:
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because of draft position because you are in love with some semi-pro at Ohio State are a strange group.


LOL..I think Eli actually might get some love from the Philly crowd


strange because we want an impact defender and new coaching staff? if we win out, could you imagine the narrative....oh eli still has it!!! dont worry, we missed young, its okay! noooooo fuck all that. lose out. fire shurmur and draft young
Love Eli  
Giantophile : 12/5/2019 6:12 am : link
But I'm not thrilled to see him back under center. For one it's a crummy situation for him to be back - in the middle of this skid on MNF in Philly.

And second and more importantly, this franchise desperately needs to turn the page on the Manning era. And while they mostly have, he's still lingering. Him being back is like a text from an old girlfriend.
Great post Relic  
liteamorn : 12/5/2019 6:24 am : link
Welcome back Eli! He's what all our qb's should be ,DJ was only 201 consecutive starts from passing him. I want Eli to go out shining like the sun !!
very happy to see Eli on the field again  
Shirk130 : 12/5/2019 6:30 am : link
and really interested to see if the running game improves with him behind center.
Eli was benched for a reason, well  
section125 : 12/5/2019 6:39 am : link
maybe two connected reasons. The first was that he stunk and has stunk for at least two years. The second was it was time to see if Jones was what the team thought he was and to start getting him ready for next year.
I'm disappointed that Jones got hurt and is not playing. What little chance they had of winning just got flushed, although in the long run for the draft this is actually better for the team.
Don't go there, I'm not bashing Eli, but I am certainly not fawning over seeing him play again. I'll certainly be hoping he pulls one out of his ass and will also certainly be rooting for him to play well.
Quite frankly, to me, this is like seeing CC at the end of this year. I love him and absolutely appreciate what he did for the team. But CC was done last year and out of respect was brought back this year. Same with Eli. He was done before last year, but had a contract and also the respect of the team so that he was not unceremoniously dumped.

To each his own. But I prefer not seeing Eli get the shit kicked out of him by a desperate Eagles team when Solder and Remmers have been turnstiles. I don't want to see the shell of Eli pounded in Philadelphia.
RE: and you idiots who want to lose  
Jim in Tampa : 12/5/2019 6:44 am : link
In comment 14703542 HomerJones45 said:
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because of draft position because you are in love with some semi-pro at Ohio State are a strange group.

It's called seeing the big picture and putting the TEAM FIRST before one's sentimental feelings for an individual player.
Be great  
Rolyrock : 12/5/2019 7:22 am : link
If they won.
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Jim from Katonah : 12/5/2019 8:41 am : link
In comment 14703588 Jim in Tampa said:
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because of draft position because you are in love with some semi-pro at Ohio State are a strange group.


It's called seeing the big picture and putting the TEAM FIRST before one's sentimental feelings for an individual player.


At the risk of being argumentative, I humbly disagree with a “Tank for Player A” approach when it comes to the NFL — especially when it comes to a non-QB. A tank definitely works in the NBA if you get the right player, but I think the NFL is different. Look at Mario Williams, Clowney, Myles Garrett — all Chase Young style phenoms who went to losers who stayed losers. No one non-QB makes a big enough difference to overcome the bad effects of exposing your returning players to the damage of feeling like they are part of a loser. Football is a 100% buy-in game b/c of the constant threat of serious physical harm — I keep coming back to the Steelers ... any player who joins that team feels like they are part of something and there are no throwaway seasons.

My opinion may be wrong — what the hell do I know — but it’s not based on stupid emotional reasons, it’s actually just a difference in philosophy.
This is all such ridiculous talk.  
Bill L : 12/5/2019 8:54 am : link
They need a QB on the field and Eli is not only the best available but he *wants* to play. *Nothing* else and *nobody* else matters. He shouldn't play because you (we) don't want him to play???? Who the fuck are we? Nobody who matters in this regard, that's who.
RE: I don't share the sediments here  
Crispino : 12/5/2019 5:21 pm : link
In comment 14703483 Ron from Ninerland said:
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Eli should have retired after the 2017 season. It was depressing to watch him last year. This is the greatest quarterback in Giants history and last year , he was a shadow of what he once was. If he plays on Monday he'll be rusty on top of that and he'll be playing behind an offensive line that's more horrific than it was last year. It is entirely possible that he pulls off an upset against the Eagles as dysfunctional as they are. So what ? Personally, I hope he never takes another snap. Let Tanney start and get this season over with


Eli’s stats last year were practically identical to Tom Brady’s. And Brady’s production was good enough to win a Super Bowl. How many fourth quarter leads did the defense blow? So, Eli wasn’t the problem. With a defense and some better caiching, Eli’s production was fine.
I hope Eli lights up the Eagles, but the Giants lose.  
Crispino : 12/5/2019 5:23 pm : link
Eli with a big passing day and the Giants losing anyway would make me happy. 45-42 would be great.
There is a great scene...  
bw in dc : 12/5/2019 6:27 pm : link
in "Varsity Blues" where Mox decides to hit the other team's mascot in the balls to stop the clock on a game-winning drive.

I'd like to see Manning do the same thing to Shurmur.
RE: I don't share the sediments here  
Bill L : 12/5/2019 10:16 pm : link
In comment 14703483 Ron from Ninerland said:
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Eli should have retired after the 2017 season. It was depressing to watch him last year. This is the greatest quarterback in Giants history and last year , he was a shadow of what he once was. If he plays on Monday he'll be rusty on top of that and he'll be playing behind an offensive line that's more horrific than it was last year. It is entirely possible that he pulls off an upset against the Eagles as dysfunctional as they are. So what ? Personally, I hope he never takes another snap. Let Tanney start and get this season over with
Stop with the dirty talk.
Ewi is taking us to the ship!  
micky : 12/5/2019 10:54 pm : link
Ewi!!
RE: This is all such ridiculous talk.  
nicky43 : 12/5/2019 11:35 pm : link
In comment 14703691 Bill L said:
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They need a QB on the field and Eli is not only the best available but he *wants* to play. *Nothing* else and *nobody* else matters. He shouldn't play because you (we) don't want him to play???? Who the fuck are we? Nobody who matters in this regard, that's who.


Great post!
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