Until this period. The goalie interference thing was dopey -- but they staved of the Jackets in the resulting PP! Great skating up and down by both teams. Georgiev has been, ahem, great!
Period. We didn't deserve to get 2 points from this game, but Georgiev was absolutely amazing.
Looked exactly like that to me, late as was. Maybe there should be serious reconsideration of the idea of trading him. Tonight he was unbeatable pretty much. Many many shots on, only two in.
Georgiev is actually younger than Shestyorkin by about 45 days.
Breadman, for sure, but how can you not continue to like Lemieux, who brings what he's got every night. Afterthought and unwanted here when he came last season.
Size and physicality is going to be an issue for this team going forward, esp. as it gets later in the season with teams jockeying for SCP position. And I'm not talking about this season, but seasons to come. A bit of a puzzle, because you don't want to mess with or diminish the skating, passing, creative talent.
in possession is a positive in my eyes, especially for a young team with many players simply trying to find their way in the league.
This is a tough group that's improving and I'm encouraged by the fact that they won this game tonight
Last night's game reminded me of many Rangers games we've seen in the past where the Rangers dominate on offense, but the opposing team's backup goalie stands on his head and beats us.
in possession is a positive in my eyes, especially for a young team with many players simply trying to find their way in the league.
This is a tough group that's improving and I'm encouraged by the fact that they won this game tonight
Last night's game reminded me of many Rangers games we've seen in the past where the Rangers dominate on offense, but the opposing team's backup goalie stands on his head and beats us.
That's a great point. Good to be on the winning side of those kind of games for a change
It's hard to nail down the root cause of why we're getting destroyed in possession most nights. I look at the personnel on defense and I like a lot of what we have back there. There are no anchors as long as Staal out. We finally have a group with 3-4 guys that can skate and move the puck from the back end. But we have prolonged stretches where we simply cannot get the puck out.
We seem to struggle badly against the cycle, maybe some of it is some weakness down the middle at center. A lot of young forwards still figuring out how to play in their own zone too. But ultimately some of this has to be systems/coaching based, the defense has been consistently poor under Lindy Ruff. Trouba (who I still think has been solid) sees his metrics plummet upon coming over here, but I doubt he's much different as a player than he was a few months back. So where's the disconnect?
The skill up front is good enough where they can still win despite the shot differential because they take their chances well. But I can't help but feeling like they shouldn't be getting crushed in possession each night.
it's different than in the last few years with AV where we had aspirations for the Cup and we knew that winning this way was a bad sign for potential playoff success.
I don't really care how a young team finds wins because it's all part of the process and learning experience. But I'm just a bit baffled by it.
and maybe I'm stuck on this, but it seems to me part of it is that, aside from Trouba, we're not very (physically) powerful in the back lines: Fox, slender and young, Lindgren has some size and muscle but really young, D'A not a powerhouse. Skjei should have presence but he seems to disappear. Size and inexperience.
And seems to me that teams are scouting this in NYR: ever since the first Ottawa game a couple of weeks ago, the first 4-1 game, a young, relatively inexperienced team focused on checking and physicality, and other teams, seeing the positive results, have followed suit
Agreed there, we can get pushed around a bit along the wall and below the faceoff dots. Teams get the cycle working and that lack of size on D can be exposed. CBJ is a big physical team that was able to take advantage of that. Thankfully we took their best player and they're really lacking skill this season so they can't bury chances despite that puck possession, plus Georgie played phenomenal.
Trouba is the only one really equipped to handle that type of game, as you mentioned. I was at the game last night and thought he played great. He makes a lot of subtle effective plays, I'm glad we have him. I do think Skeji's game has come on a bit of late as well after what seemed like a two and a half season plateau.
But ultimately some of this has to be systems/coaching based, the defense has been consistently poor under Lindy Ruff. Trouba (who I still think has been solid) sees his metrics plummet upon coming over here, but I doubt he's much different as a player than he was a few months back. So where's the disconnect?
that this is a difficult team to assess, as to why they struggle in the areas they do. Trouba, Skjei, Tony, Fox, Lindgren are all good players. I know their skill sets are more geared toward what happens when they have the puck and not their abilities without the puck, but I can't pinpoint what the issue truly is. Is it as Kyle said that the forwards are letting easy entry and subsequent possession into the zone? I feel like between Mika, Kreider, Fast, Panarin, Strome that these are competent two way players. I have even seen an improvement in Chytil's ability in his own end this year. Is it that other teams are taking advantage of guys like Kakko who is clearly learning, and Buchnevich who doesn't excel in that facet of the game, and that these guys become the focus? Or is it the systemic issue we have all discussed with Ruff? My hope is that it is an experience and team chemistry issue, and that we have a ton of young players who don't have a ton of experience playing together, and that they will improve as the year progresses.
Either way, Georgiev stealing 2 points last night was incredible, despite 87...EIGHTY SEVEN shot attempts by Columbus. The two saves he made on Bjorkstrand in the first and third were save of the year candidates, particularly the one in the third period. I hope we can take advantage of a beat up Montreal team tonight, who is now without Drouin and Kotkaniemi.
We have to play with more jam and muscle in our own end
We're weak on the boards and on the cycle. Some of that is just youth and guys on both defense and the wing needing to get stronger and smarter which will come organically.
Patience is difficult because we do see the potential of what we can be. It's going to take time to come together. Probably more than just this season. Playoffs are a legit goal though based on our offense, goaltending and team effort. These guys are playing hard and working hard.
Hope it jump starts us because we were outclassed and outshot 18-5 before that. Couldn't handle columbus pressure and physicality.
Looked exactly like that to me, late as was. Maybe there should be serious reconsideration of the idea of trading him. Tonight he was unbeatable pretty much. Many many shots on, only two in.
That's how I feel as well. And I would look to trade Strome. Their values will never be higher.
Two shots in the third. Two?That's it?
Too bad Rangers will likely trade him, and only get pennies on the dollar
Too bad Rangers will likely trade him, and only get pennies on the dollar
I don't think pennies on the dollar has to be.
Hopefully more than one team should be interested. The Leafs are crazy if they aren't.
Breadman, for sure, but how can you not continue to like Lemieux, who brings what he's got every night. Afterthought and unwanted here when he came last season.
Size and physicality is going to be an issue for this team going forward, esp. as it gets later in the season with teams jockeying for SCP position. And I'm not talking about this season, but seasons to come. A bit of a puzzle, because you don't want to mess with or diminish the skating, passing, creative talent.
This is a tough group that's improving and I'm encouraged by the fact that they won this game tonight
This is a tough group that's improving and I'm encouraged by the fact that they won this game tonight
Last night's game reminded me of many Rangers games we've seen in the past where the Rangers dominate on offense, but the opposing team's backup goalie stands on his head and beats us.
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in possession is a positive in my eyes, especially for a young team with many players simply trying to find their way in the league.
This is a tough group that's improving and I'm encouraged by the fact that they won this game tonight
Last night's game reminded me of many Rangers games we've seen in the past where the Rangers dominate on offense, but the opposing team's backup goalie stands on his head and beats us.
That's a great point. Good to be on the winning side of those kind of games for a change
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We seem to struggle badly against the cycle, maybe some of it is some weakness down the middle at center. A lot of young forwards still figuring out how to play in their own zone too. But ultimately some of this has to be systems/coaching based, the defense has been consistently poor under Lindy Ruff. Trouba (who I still think has been solid) sees his metrics plummet upon coming over here, but I doubt he's much different as a player than he was a few months back. So where's the disconnect?
The skill up front is good enough where they can still win despite the shot differential because they take their chances well. But I can't help but feeling like they shouldn't be getting crushed in possession each night.
I don't really care how a young team finds wins because it's all part of the process and learning experience. But I'm just a bit baffled by it.
And seems to me that teams are scouting this in NYR: ever since the first Ottawa game a couple of weeks ago, the first 4-1 game, a young, relatively inexperienced team focused on checking and physicality, and other teams, seeing the positive results, have followed suit
Trouba is the only one really equipped to handle that type of game, as you mentioned. I was at the game last night and thought he played great. He makes a lot of subtle effective plays, I'm glad we have him. I do think Skeji's game has come on a bit of late as well after what seemed like a two and a half season plateau.
You said it, not me
Either way, Georgiev stealing 2 points last night was incredible, despite 87...EIGHTY SEVEN shot attempts by Columbus. The two saves he made on Bjorkstrand in the first and third were save of the year candidates, particularly the one in the third period. I hope we can take advantage of a beat up Montreal team tonight, who is now without Drouin and Kotkaniemi.
Patience is difficult because we do see the potential of what we can be. It's going to take time to come together. Probably more than just this season. Playoffs are a legit goal though based on our offense, goaltending and team effort. These guys are playing hard and working hard.
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I was afraid of that. He did like a split on the ice and then hobbled off.
That means Staal is back in, unfortunately.