NFT: Knicks: fire fizdale at halftime

trade the rest of the vets and play the youth around morris and gibson..

Frank/smith
barrett/trier
knox/iggy
Morris
mitch/gibson

Knicks might not win many, but defense would give them a chance - a chance to score in transition in addition to denying the opposition uncontested threes. Even D'Antoni could coach better defense than this. I can't quite figure out what Fizdale teaches these guys when they practice.

he is damn good

In comment 14704626 GeofromNJ said:

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Knicks might not win many, but defense would give them a chance - a chance to score in transition in addition to denying the opposition uncontested threes. Even D'Antoni could coach better defense than this. I can't quite figure out what Fizdale teaches these guys when they practice.

fizdale said his defense is based on protecting the paint first, i kid you not

i want to watch ellington and portis

and not just a suggestion.

Double bummer.

he was telling his wife how the knicks have young guys and he is confused why they are not playing right now

In comment 14704629 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 14704626 GeofromNJ said: Quote: Knicks might not win many, but defense would give them a chance - a chance to score in transition in addition to denying the opposition uncontested threes. Even D'Antoni could coach better defense than this. I can't quite figure out what Fizdale teaches these guys when they practice. fizdale said his defense is based on protecting the paint first, i kid you not

Consequently two players are in the paint and one three point shooter is all by himself.

Denver 49 of 86 (57.0%) 3pt attempts 21 of 38 (55.3%)
Knicks 34 of 83 (41.0%) 3pt attempts 9 of 34 (26.5%)

Little defense and lousy shooting. Is it coaching? Players? Both? I say, play harder defense and you won't see stats like these.

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and have a job in the morning

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wouldn't be surprised if in a move of desperation they brought Marc Jackson on in midseason

Flush it down the toilet and reset the whole damn thing again. Period

In comment 14704620 nygiants16 said:

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trade the rest of the vets and play the youth around morris and gibson.. Frank/smith barrett/trier knox/iggy Morris mitch/gibson

Trade anyone you can for picks

is hilarious and tragic at the same time.

In comment 14704746 mfsd said:

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is hilarious and tragic at the same time.

I dont think it can compete but the team should absolutelt be better than this, there is talent on the roster..

In comment 14704748 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 14704746 mfsd said: Quote: is hilarious and tragic at the same time. I dont think it can compete but the team should absolutelt be better than this, there is talent on the roster..

I agree with that. Fizdale was hired essentially bc they thought he was bros with KD and Kyrie and they would come play for him. He’s a disaster of a coach for the current roster

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In comment 14704748 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 14704746 mfsd said: Quote: is hilarious and tragic at the same time. I dont think it can compete but the team should absolutelt be better than this, there is talent on the roster.. I agree with that. Fizdale was hired essentially bc they thought he was bros with KD and Kyrie and they would come play for him. He’s a disaster of a coach for the current roster

he is a players coach he is never going to get more out of a roster..

And hiring him to attract free agents is one of the most moronic things this organization as done, no player is going somewhere because of the coach

In comment 14704685 Jon in NYC said:

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wouldn't be surprised if in a move of desperation they brought Marc Jackson on in midseason

He’d be like Holzman when compared to Fizdale. Fizdale is that bad.

Calling Van Gundy to run the Knicks with Jackson as coach..

In comment 14704782 nygiants16 said:

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Calling Van Gundy to run the Knicks with Jackson as coach..

Make it happen!!

I was bashing MDA every game when he was here, and everyone since has been exponentially worse.

At this point, I’d rather Mills be shown the door before Fiz. Perry I don’t really care either way. This is a mess only someone like Jerry West and Ujiri can get us out of.

until shown the door. His failures are legendary but the most recent,that has affected everything going forward,was his signing of Hardaway before Perry or Fiz was on board.Everything going forward was affected by that signing & w/o it,the need to clear cap space wouldn't have been needed. He is the problem!

In comment 14704834 TheMick7 said:

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until shown the door. His failures are legendary but the most recent,that has affected everything going forward,was his signing of Hardaway before Perry or Fiz was on board.Everything going forward was affected by that signing & w/o it,the need to clear cap space wouldn't have been needed. He is the problem!

Yep unlike the past where no matter who we brought in we were in perpetual cap hell to clean up so it didn't matter, we actually have roster flexibility cap wise so a great basketball mind could clean up this mess pretty quickly.

I liked the defensive effort, but his complete lack of imagination on offense was horrendous. He always felt like half a complete basketball coach to me.

In comment 14704882 Jan in DC said:

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I liked the defensive effort, but his complete lack of imagination on offense was horrendous. He always felt like half a complete basketball coach to me.

because he built his system around ewing, that was the style back then..

Even now it is all iso, it is just with wings and guards now and teams spread the floor

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Kevin Draper @kevinmdraper Scott Perry hasn’t been a part of a front office with a winning record in 13 seasons, which seems almost impossible to manage.

We actually traded a second round pick to get this guy!

In comment 14704901 Enzo said:

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Quote: Kevin Draper @kevinmdraper Scott Perry hasn’t been a part of a front office with a winning record in 13 seasons, which seems almost impossible to manage. We actually traded a second round pick to get this guy!

I never understand the praise for this guy. It’s amazing how badly he screwed up this offseason.

At this point you just have to root for it to continue to get worse so Dolan is forced to do a full housecleaning.

shyster, lol

I don't watch them much, but while working out and watching a bit of the Bucks game and NYK down by ~40 in the 1st half, and now this.

Knox doesn't give a shit: he watches his corner jumper miss, stares at his right hand follow through, while nine other players scamper down the court after his shot clanks off the rim. Hilarious and sad

I was at last night's game:

- Fizdale is a terrible coach - the knicks halfcourt sets are jokes, a ton of dribbling and no movement. Denver had such continuity.

- Perry - Construction of roster is horrendous, no shooting, no penetration. The only positive thing we can say is that he has not made any franchise killer moves like Isiah Thomas and other execs made. (e.g. Glenn Grunwald trading a lottery pick for Andrea Baragani. )

- Mills - I'm not sure what else this guy needs to do to prove he is not a capable NBA executive. He pretty much told Dolan, he was getting Durant/Kyrie and he gave him Julius Randle.

I'll make a side note, I argued with NYGIANTS earlier in the season and he was quite testy, but Julius Randle is a terrible player. I actually gave him too much credit as a good player on a bad team. I hate everything about his game from his body language to his shot selection to his lack of effort on defense.

Because he beat up on Porzingis once as a Laker

And that was it,no further scouting required

i would like to see him with a true point guard, but the way he is being used right now he is awful

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Because he beat up on Porzingis once as a Laker And that was it,no further scouting required

Can't rule it out - they drafted Knox because he played well during a three-on-three scrimmage in a private workout. Had they watched game tape, they may have noticed the best player on that Kentucky squad was Gilgeous-Alexander.

“I’m still coaching this team,” he said. “I’m still pushing them, still preparing them. We had a hell of a practice before this one.”-Fitz after the game.

LOL.

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We need Mills, Perry and Fizdale out.

Hire Mark Jackson as HC today.

is still full to watch this crap !!!! I used to go alot back in the 90's and it was awesome now i would not be caught dead there watching this awful organization

Last night was not really full and the crowd was as dead as I have ever seen it, even in the worst of times. It is truly sad what has happened here. The worst part - Lamello Ball is the reward at the end of the season.

if he's the best player available to us. I think Lavar's 15 minutes are up - does anyone care about him anymore? If LaMelo's putting up triple-doubles at the Garden next year and dad wants to brag a little, more power to him.

Just write a blank check to Jerry West, Ujiri or Presti. Let them do a full tear down.

And please please just retire the words “cap flexibility” and “young core”. This is truly rock bottom for the Knicks and that’s saying something.

In comment 14705102 TyreeHelmet said:

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Just write a blank check to Jerry West, Ujiri or Presti. Let them do a full tear down. And please please just retire the words “cap flexibility” and “young core”. This is truly rock bottom for the Knicks and that’s saying something.

I think we would feel differently if all the young guys were playing with a couple of vets and knocks actually went with a traditional rebuild

the thread title meant the Knicks fired Fizdale at halftime and I got hyped lol.

what the thread title meant. Seems eminently plausible that this would actually happen.

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“I wouldn’t. It’s not my role,” Silver said Thursday on WFAN. “Of course, I work for 30 teams. And the 29 other teams want to beat that team. That’s not to say me getting involved (would be good) and that I’m in any better position to know what to do. We set the rules. And then we try to have a level playing field for the teams to compete.”

#SellTheTeam - ( New Window )

fizdale was going to be fired after the game or by the latest today. It's hard to believe they are going to let this continue but for some reason he is still the coach .

7th time in NBA HISTORY that a team lost back to back games by 35+ points and yet this moron is still the coach.

stop switching, play 1 on 1 and fight over screens, that in turn will run players off the 3 point line..How many times were denvers bigs stuck on a guard?

Stop packing the paint and think you can get to 3 point line..

No more fucking zone, it never works..

offensively run pick and roll, get barrett and randle going down hill..

In comment 14705095 bceagle05 said:

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if he's the best player available to us. I think Lavar's 15 minutes are up - does anyone care about him anymore? If LaMelo's putting up triple-doubles at the Garden next year and dad wants to brag a little, more power to him.

I think Lamelo is a really talented prospect. He could be the best guy available.

would be a terrible mistake.

Anyone with a brain knows Fizdale and then eventually Mills and Perry are going to get fired. So just do it. Name an interim to both positions and hire a new head of basketball ops in the offseason that gets to pick his own coach. I don't see much point to stringing this along when everyone knows what the eventual outcome is going to be.