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NFT: Knicks: fire fizdale at halftime

nygiants16 : 12/5/2019 8:30 pm
down 20, switching on everything on defense and the nuggets are getting wide open looks..

STOP SWITCHING
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Stop Watching  
arniefez : 12/5/2019 8:31 pm : link
they're a sad joke.
I actually thought this happened  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/5/2019 8:32 pm : link
Hahaha.
RE: I actually thought this happened  
steve in ky : 12/5/2019 8:33 pm : link
In comment 14704563 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Hahaha.


Yeah thread title was misleading, I thought the same
Randle with the staggering drunk assist  
ghost718 : 12/5/2019 8:34 pm : link
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I thought the same too  
djm : 12/5/2019 8:34 pm : link
..
wait you guys thought knicks would fire a coach at half?  
nygiants16 : 12/5/2019 8:37 pm : link
hahaha sorry guys..

pick and roll working all game with robinson, why not run it every single time at jokic?
It's really just atrocious  
Giantfan21 : 12/5/2019 8:37 pm : link
to watch at this point. I dont know how isnt fired after this game and hopefully mills and perry right after him
Hard to tell how much of a role Perry is playing in this  
Anakim : 12/5/2019 8:38 pm : link
But Mills and Fizdale have gotta go
Sometimes it's not switching  
shyster : 12/5/2019 8:47 pm : link
It's three guys running to the guy with the ball like a kids' soccer game.

i am surprised he didnt bring out the zone  
nygiants16 : 12/5/2019 8:48 pm : link
..
Doncic  
TyreeHelmet : 12/5/2019 8:51 pm : link
Highly off topic. But you think the Knicks had any chance of trading for him? They would have had to offer 2018 9th pick, 2019 1st and 2021 unprotected 1st. I know hindsight is 2020 but man I can’t believe this guy went 3rd and Dallas was able to trade for him.

This team is unwatchable and terrible.
Mills is the core problem  
Torrag : 12/5/2019 8:51 pm : link
Finance geek with the final say on personnel decisions who has the owners ear and trust is a recipe for...well what we're watching. Disastrous.

Dolan has apparently stepped back after the carmelo interference was such a nightmare now we have to get Mills out the door.
Take a blowtorch  
bceagle05 : 12/5/2019 8:52 pm : link
to this whole fucking franchise please.
RE: Doncic  
nygiants16 : 12/5/2019 8:54 pm : link
In comment 14704586 TyreeHelmet said:
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Highly off topic. But you think the Knicks had any chance of trading for him? They would have had to offer 2018 9th pick, 2019 1st and 2021 unprotected 1st. I know hindsight is 2020 but man I can’t believe this guy went 3rd and Dallas was able to trade for him.

This team is unwatchable and terrible.


i doubt it, dallas was not dropping that far..

i am interested to see how he is playing in january, last year he faded badly
I think Fiz will be out  
Jon in NYC : 12/5/2019 8:57 pm : link
shortly. Possibly by tomorrow.
RE: RE:  
TyreeHelmet : 12/5/2019 8:58 pm : link
In comment 14704589 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 14704586 TyreeHelmet said:


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Highly off topic. But you think the Knicks had any chance of trading for him? They would have had to offer 2018 9th pick, 2019 1st and 2021 unprotected 1st. I know hindsight is 2020 but man I can’t believe this guy went 3rd and Dallas was able to trade for him.

This team is unwatchable and terrible.



i doubt it, dallas was not dropping that far..

i am interested to see how he is playing in january, last year he faded badly


You’re right the guys wanted Trae. But I just wonder if there was a scenario the Knicks could’ve have grabbed him. He’s an incredible player- close to top 5 NBA if not there.


Knicks  
TyreeHelmet : 12/5/2019 9:01 pm : link
Can’t we just get a decent team on the rise? I’m not even asking for a title contender.

This roster is awful.
Dallas knew what they had in Luka.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/5/2019 9:03 pm : link
They went from Dirk to Doncic. UFB. Lucky SOBs.
RE: Knicks  
nygiants16 : 12/5/2019 9:04 pm : link
In comment 14704597 TyreeHelmet said:
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Can’t we just get a decent team on the rise? I’m not even asking for a title contender.

This roster is awful.


i wanted randle but man has he dissapointed...

Knicks had 70 million and they still couldnt even become mediocre..

they are worse than laat year
This team gave up on fizdale  
Giantfan21 : 12/5/2019 9:04 pm : link
watch their body language. It over him and hopefully mills and perry can pack their bags too.

ITs so simple. Randle needed to benched and the starting lineup should have been frank/dot/rj/morris/mitch or taj.

The fact he never even tried this shows how incompetent he is.
so you bring in ellington and not trier?  
nygiants16 : 12/5/2019 9:07 pm : link
makes sense
i thibk the vets know fizdale is moronic  
nygiants16 : 12/5/2019 9:08 pm : link
even gibson basically said he shouldnt be starting and it is mitchs spot
To me the solution is so F'ing easy.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/5/2019 9:13 pm : link
Hire Uruji, Presti, Morey, the Bucks GM. Dolan doesn't get involved.

Presto.
keep morris and gibson  
nygiants16 : 12/5/2019 9:18 pm : link
trade the rest of the vets and play the youth around morris and gibson..

Frank/smith
barrett/trier
knox/iggy
Morris
mitch/gibson
If the Knicks would play defense, these games would be competitive  
GeofromNJ : 12/5/2019 9:20 pm : link
Knicks might not win many, but defense would give them a chance - a chance to score in transition in addition to denying the opposition uncontested threes. Even D'Antoni could coach better defense than this. I can't quite figure out what Fizdale teaches these guys when they practice.
When mitch is not in foul trouble  
nygiants16 : 12/5/2019 9:20 pm : link
he is damn good
RE: If the Knicks would play defense, these games would be competitive  
nygiants16 : 12/5/2019 9:21 pm : link
In comment 14704626 GeofromNJ said:
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Knicks might not win many, but defense would give them a chance - a chance to score in transition in addition to denying the opposition uncontested threes. Even D'Antoni could coach better defense than this. I can't quite figure out what Fizdale teaches these guys when they practice.


fizdale said his defense is based on protecting the paint first, i kid you not
so glad trier and iggy are not in the game  
nygiants16 : 12/5/2019 9:25 pm : link
i want to watch ellington and portis
Really wanted the thread title to be a declaration  
widmerseyebrow : 12/5/2019 9:29 pm : link
and not just a suggestion.

Double bummer.
Even david lee ypu could see  
nygiants16 : 12/5/2019 9:31 pm : link
he was telling his wife how the knicks have young guys and he is confused why they are not playing right now
RE: RE: If the Knicks would play defense, these games would be competitive  
GeofromNJ : 12/5/2019 9:43 pm : link
In comment 14704629 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 14704626 GeofromNJ said:


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Knicks might not win many, but defense would give them a chance - a chance to score in transition in addition to denying the opposition uncontested threes. Even D'Antoni could coach better defense than this. I can't quite figure out what Fizdale teaches these guys when they practice.



fizdale said his defense is based on protecting the paint first, i kid you not

Consequently two players are in the paint and one three point shooter is all by himself.
The telling stats  
GeofromNJ : 12/5/2019 9:51 pm : link
Denver 49 of 86 (57.0%) 3pt attempts 21 of 38 (55.3%)
Knicks 34 of 83 (41.0%) 3pt attempts 9 of 34 (26.5%)

Little defense and lousy shooting. Is it coaching? Players? Both? I say, play harder defense and you won't see stats like these.
Back to being blown out every game  
moespree : 12/5/2019 9:51 pm : link
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hard to see how you lose back to back by close to 40  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 12/5/2019 9:53 pm : link
and have a job in the morning
60 more games of this shit.  
bceagle05 : 12/5/2019 9:53 pm : link
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I honestly  
Jon in NYC : 12/5/2019 10:00 pm : link
wouldn't be surprised if in a move of desperation they brought Marc Jackson on in midseason
Only knick goal  
jmalls23 : 12/5/2019 10:31 pm : link
Flush it down the toilet and reset the whole damn thing again. Period
RE: keep morris and gibson  
Justlurking : 12/5/2019 10:50 pm : link
In comment 14704620 nygiants16 said:
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trade the rest of the vets and play the youth around morris and gibson..

Frank/smith
barrett/trier
knox/iggy
Morris
mitch/gibson


Trade anyone you can for picks
The idea Mills and Perry thought this team could compete  
mfsd : 12/5/2019 10:58 pm : link
is hilarious and tragic at the same time.
RE: The idea Mills and Perry thought this team could compete  
nygiants16 : 12/5/2019 11:05 pm : link
In comment 14704746 mfsd said:
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is hilarious and tragic at the same time.


I dont think it can compete but the team should absolutelt be better than this, there is talent on the roster..
RE: RE: The idea Mills and Perry thought this team could compete  
mfsd : 12/5/2019 11:09 pm : link
In comment 14704748 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 14704746 mfsd said:


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is hilarious and tragic at the same time.



I dont think it can compete but the team should absolutelt be better than this, there is talent on the roster..


I agree with that. Fizdale was hired essentially bc they thought he was bros with KD and Kyrie and they would come play for him. He’s a disaster of a coach for the current roster
RE: RE: RE: The idea Mills and Perry thought this team could compete  
nygiants16 : 12/5/2019 11:15 pm : link
In comment 14704751 mfsd said:
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In comment 14704748 nygiants16 said:


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In comment 14704746 mfsd said:


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is hilarious and tragic at the same time.



I dont think it can compete but the team should absolutelt be better than this, there is talent on the roster..



I agree with that. Fizdale was hired essentially bc they thought he was bros with KD and Kyrie and they would come play for him. He’s a disaster of a coach for the current roster


he is a players coach he is never going to get more out of a roster..

And hiring him to attract free agents is one of the most moronic things this organization as done, no player is going somewhere because of the coach
RE: I honestly  
steve in ky : 12/6/2019 12:30 am : link
In comment 14704685 Jon in NYC said:
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wouldn't be surprised if in a move of desperation they brought Marc Jackson on in midseason


He’d be like Holzman when compared to Fizdale. Fizdale is that bad.
I could absolutely see dolan  
nygiants16 : 12/6/2019 12:53 am : link
Calling Van Gundy to run the Knicks with Jackson as coach..
RE: I could absolutely see dolan  
GeofromNJ : 12/6/2019 2:36 am : link
In comment 14704782 nygiants16 said:
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Calling Van Gundy to run the Knicks with Jackson as coach..

Make it happen!!
I don’t think we’ve not complained about a coach since JVG.  
Jim in Hoboken : 12/6/2019 7:48 am : link
I was bashing MDA every game when he was here, and everyone since has been exponentially worse.

At this point, I’d rather Mills be shown the door before Fiz. Perry I don’t really care either way. This is a mess only someone like Jerry West and Ujiri can get us out of.
Mills has been & will continue to be the problem  
TheMick7 : 12/6/2019 7:55 am : link
until shown the door. His failures are legendary but the most recent,that has affected everything going forward,was his signing of Hardaway before Perry or Fiz was on board.Everything going forward was affected by that signing & w/o it,the need to clear cap space wouldn't have been needed. He is the problem!
RE: Mills has been & will continue to be the problem  
Stu11 : 12/6/2019 8:25 am : link
In comment 14704834 TheMick7 said:
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until shown the door. His failures are legendary but the most recent,that has affected everything going forward,was his signing of Hardaway before Perry or Fiz was on board.Everything going forward was affected by that signing & w/o it,the need to clear cap space wouldn't have been needed. He is the problem!

Yep unlike the past where no matter who we brought in we were in perpetual cap hell to clean up so it didn't matter, we actually have roster flexibility cap wise so a great basketball mind could clean up this mess pretty quickly.
JVG style of basketball made my eyes bleed  
Jan in DC : 12/6/2019 8:57 am : link
I liked the defensive effort, but his complete lack of imagination on offense was horrendous. He always felt like half a complete basketball coach to me.
RE: JVG style of basketball made my eyes bleed  
nygiants16 : 12/6/2019 9:01 am : link
In comment 14704882 Jan in DC said:
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I liked the defensive effort, but his complete lack of imagination on offense was horrendous. He always felt like half a complete basketball coach to me.


because he built his system around ewing, that was the style back then..

Even now it is all iso, it is just with wings and guards now and teams spread the floor
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