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Shurmur s post game presser regarding 3 rd & 17 touchdown

joeinpa : 12/6/2019 9:53 am
I know it s ancient history but I found his comment regarding that play really irritating.

The Giants looked really confused and got caught with 12 men on the field. His response was something to the effect that , “They caught the ball anyway, right. “

Reading between the lines, I heard: “ the penalty wasn’t that big a deal, they caught the ball anyway because the players messed up. “

I haven’t gotten much into the Shurmur discussions because I don’t think my opinion has much relevance in that regard. But that comment was a real turnoff for me, it seems like he rarely accepts responsibility for things that go badly on the field.

Bringing this up to see if anyone else had a similar reaction to that particular comment, or was it just something I overreacted to.

He is a stone cold loser  
Jints in Carolina : 12/6/2019 10:04 am : link
that can't be fired quick enough.
He  
BeckShepEli : 12/6/2019 10:08 am : link
is a loser who couldn't coach a HS team
Shurmur Doesn't Appear to Accept Responsibility When Things Go Wrong  
Jim in Tampa : 12/6/2019 10:25 am : link
However, I'm not sure that this is an example of that.

If your paraphrase/quote is near accurate, what I think he means is...

The penalty wasn't a big deal because it didn't really impact the play. They caught the ball for more yards than the penalty would have given them.

The reporter would get the same response if he/she was asking about a defensive holding call on a pass completion of more than 5 yards that resulted in a 1st down. The penalties in both examples are irrelevant.
I normally do not resort to name calling  
gmen4ever : 12/6/2019 10:31 am : link
but he is a complete F-ing idiot.
RE: Shurmur Doesn't Appear to Accept Responsibility When Things Go Wrong  
larryflower37 : 12/6/2019 10:33 am : link
In comment 14705017 Jim in Tampa said:
Quote:
However, I'm not sure that this is an example of that.

If your paraphrase/quote is near accurate, what I think he means is...

The penalty wasn't a big deal because it didn't really impact the play. They caught the ball for more yards than the penalty would have given them.

The reporter would get the same response if he/she was asking about a defensive holding call on a pass completion of more than 5 yards that resulted in a 1st down. The penalties in both examples are irrelevant.


this does speak to his lack of accountability.
Having 12 men on the field talks to how unprepared the defense was and why the play was successful.
The fact that he is looking at the penalty not costing the team because the offense was successful is ridiculous.
the offense was successful because his defense can't do basic things like get the right personnel on the field in a timely manner
I understand the point of the original post...  
EricJ : 12/6/2019 10:47 am : link
but this says something else to me.

I have been saying that our communication on the defensive side of the ball STILL has not improved and we are past the mid point of the season.

Many of the long TDs against us were not always because our guy just got beaten. Many were due to a communication problem and a blown coverage.

So, while I understand the purpose of the thread is to discuss Shurmur's lack of accountability here, to me the issue is still about how we ended up with 12 men on the field.
RE: Shurmur Doesn't Appear to Accept Responsibility When Things Go Wrong  
Gman11 : 12/6/2019 10:58 am : link
In comment 14705017 Jim in Tampa said:
Quote:
However, I'm not sure that this is an example of that.

If your paraphrase/quote is near accurate, what I think he means is...

The penalty wasn't a big deal because it didn't really impact the play. They caught the ball for more yards than the penalty would have given them.

The reporter would get the same response if he/she was asking about a defensive holding call on a pass completion of more than 5 yards that resulted in a 1st down. The penalties in both examples are irrelevant.


No, that can't be it because it doesn't fit most of BBI's agenda.
I can’t even watch his pressers any more.  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 12/6/2019 11:01 am : link
To cringe worthy for me.
Wow - some of you should be asamed  
UberAlias : 12/6/2019 11:09 am : link
He may be a bad coach, but I don't get the idea he's a bad guy. Shameless behavior here over a football team.
Didn't the announcers  
BigK : 12/6/2019 11:13 am : link
mention that there was a lot of confusion on the defensive side during that play? The penalty was a result of that but so was the TD
Isn't that  
uther99 : 12/6/2019 12:01 pm : link
Bettcher's responsibility to make sure the right people are on field on D?
RE: RE: Shurmur Doesn't Appear to Accept Responsibility When Things Go Wrong  
gmenatlarge : 12/6/2019 12:30 pm : link
In comment 14705026 larryflower37 said:
Quote:
In comment 14705017 Jim in Tampa said:


Quote:


However, I'm not sure that this is an example of that.

If your paraphrase/quote is near accurate, what I think he means is...

The penalty wasn't a big deal because it didn't really impact the play. They caught the ball for more yards than the penalty would have given them.

The reporter would get the same response if he/she was asking about a defensive holding call on a pass completion of more than 5 yards that resulted in a 1st down. The penalties in both examples are irrelevant.



this does speak to his lack of accountability.
Having 12 men on the field talks to how unprepared the defense was and why the play was successful.
The fact that he is looking at the penalty not costing the team because the offense was successful is ridiculous.
the offense was successful because his defense can't do basic things like get the right personnel on the field in a timely manner


+1 To add to that, Rodgers sees the flag and knows he has a free play so he can afford to wait for someone to get open without consequence!
What about the officials?  
FJ : 12/6/2019 2:37 pm : link
Aren't the officials supposed to whistle the play dead if the defense has 12 men on the field and the snap is imminent? It should not have been a free play. It should have been stopped right away and the penalty awarded. Proceed with 3rd and 12.
Sam Beal in his third NFL game covering Devante Adams one on one  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/6/2019 3:04 pm : link
was a good idea, but I guess the players messed it up.


Or something like that.
RE: What about the officials?  
BillKo : 12/6/2019 3:49 pm : link
In comment 14705388 FJ said:
Quote:
Aren't the officials supposed to whistle the play dead if the defense has 12 men on the field and the snap is imminent? It should not have been a free play. It should have been stopped right away and the penalty awarded. Proceed with 3rd and 12.


What sport are u watcbing?
Why didn’t he call timeout?  
Jimmy Googs : 12/6/2019 3:53 pm : link
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fucking  
Paulie Walnuts : 12/6/2019 4:01 pm : link
clown
People make it sound like the Giants had 12 guys  
arniefez : 12/6/2019 4:14 pm : link
playing against 11. Not what happened. 29 was two steps from the sideline nowhere near the play when the ball was snapped.

As far as Shurmur goes. He's 17 and 44 and 1 of the 17 was a freebie.
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