I know it s ancient history but I found his comment regarding that play really irritating.
The Giants looked really confused and got caught with 12 men on the field. His response was something to the effect that , “They caught the ball anyway, right. “
Reading between the lines, I heard: “ the penalty wasn’t that big a deal, they caught the ball anyway because the players messed up. “
I haven’t gotten much into the Shurmur discussions because I don’t think my opinion has much relevance in that regard. But that comment was a real turnoff for me, it seems like he rarely accepts responsibility for things that go badly on the field.
Bringing this up to see if anyone else had a similar reaction to that particular comment, or was it just something I overreacted to.
If your paraphrase/quote is near accurate, what I think he means is...
The penalty wasn't a big deal because it didn't really impact the play. They caught the ball for more yards than the penalty would have given them.
The reporter would get the same response if he/she was asking about a defensive holding call on a pass completion of more than 5 yards that resulted in a 1st down. The penalties in both examples are irrelevant.
If your paraphrase/quote is near accurate, what I think he means is...
The penalty wasn't a big deal because it didn't really impact the play. They caught the ball for more yards than the penalty would have given them.
The reporter would get the same response if he/she was asking about a defensive holding call on a pass completion of more than 5 yards that resulted in a 1st down. The penalties in both examples are irrelevant.
this does speak to his lack of accountability.
Having 12 men on the field talks to how unprepared the defense was and why the play was successful.
The fact that he is looking at the penalty not costing the team because the offense was successful is ridiculous.
the offense was successful because his defense can't do basic things like get the right personnel on the field in a timely manner
I have been saying that our communication on the defensive side of the ball STILL has not improved and we are past the mid point of the season.
Many of the long TDs against us were not always because our guy just got beaten. Many were due to a communication problem and a blown coverage.
So, while I understand the purpose of the thread is to discuss Shurmur's lack of accountability here, to me the issue is still about how we ended up with 12 men on the field.
If your paraphrase/quote is near accurate, what I think he means is...
The penalty wasn't a big deal because it didn't really impact the play. They caught the ball for more yards than the penalty would have given them.
The reporter would get the same response if he/she was asking about a defensive holding call on a pass completion of more than 5 yards that resulted in a 1st down. The penalties in both examples are irrelevant.
No, that can't be it because it doesn't fit most of BBI's agenda.
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However, I'm not sure that this is an example of that.
If your paraphrase/quote is near accurate, what I think he means is...
The penalty wasn't a big deal because it didn't really impact the play. They caught the ball for more yards than the penalty would have given them.
The reporter would get the same response if he/she was asking about a defensive holding call on a pass completion of more than 5 yards that resulted in a 1st down. The penalties in both examples are irrelevant.
this does speak to his lack of accountability.
Having 12 men on the field talks to how unprepared the defense was and why the play was successful.
The fact that he is looking at the penalty not costing the team because the offense was successful is ridiculous.
the offense was successful because his defense can't do basic things like get the right personnel on the field in a timely manner
+1 To add to that, Rodgers sees the flag and knows he has a free play so he can afford to wait for someone to get open without consequence!
Or something like that.
What sport are u watcbing?
As far as Shurmur goes. He's 17 and 44 and 1 of the 17 was a freebie.