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steve in ky : 12/7/2019 7:32 pm
It's Miller time! Perhaps a middle aged lifer can be the coach who gets a little more out of this group. They can't do much worse.
Hard to believe Knox and DSJr were lottery picks.  
bceagle05 : 12/7/2019 8:10 pm : link
Horrific players. Frank too, for that matter.
Started 7-8 then 4-16 to finish quarter  
shyster : 12/7/2019 8:11 pm : link
Second unit terrible as they were in first quarter vs Denver.

Smith his usual 0-3 and 2 turnovers in five minutes. And he acts as though he's a star.

RJ very good.
Dotson is serviceable but for crying out loud  
steve in ky : 12/7/2019 8:24 pm : link
He doesn’t need to be shooting threes from three feet beyond the arc.

Team playing with good energy at least. I like they seem to be challenging the Pacers at the three point line more than they have been which is nice to see.

Worst part so far for net is that the NY feed is blocked and I have to watch the Pavers telecast.
Miller didn't wait long to bench DSJr., thankfully.  
bceagle05 : 12/7/2019 8:42 pm : link
More RJ in the pick and roll, and more pick and roll in general. No more three-man weave near the half court stripe.
I really wish RJ had the ball in his hands more  
Giantfan21 : 12/7/2019 8:45 pm : link
He usually makes a good play going to the rim either for himself or setting up his teammates but when morris and randle are on the court together with him they dominate the ball and he barely touches it
DSJ  
TyreeHelmet : 12/7/2019 8:46 pm : link
You can see the athleticism and ability but he’s an awful player. Him
and Knox are complete busts.

At this point they get Kadeem Allen some minutes.
And DSJ is absolutely awful  
Giantfan21 : 12/7/2019 8:48 pm : link
He should go to the Gleague and get his game right because he is not an NBA player right now
i dont get the love affair with dotson  
nygiants16 : 12/7/2019 9:16 pm : link
he takes some horrible shots
How  
Giantfootball025 : 12/7/2019 9:16 pm : link
would you fix the Knicks? The sad thing is I don't see a way this gets any better. Finishing last doesn't guarantee us the #1 pick. There really isn't any FA available I'd sign except Davis (who's likely to resign with LAL anyway). Why would a good coach even want to come here?
RE: How  
nygiants16 : 12/7/2019 9:25 pm : link
In comment 14706585 Giantfootball025 said:
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would you fix the Knicks? The sad thing is I don't see a way this gets any better. Finishing last doesn't guarantee us the #1 pick. There really isn't any FA available I'd sign except Davis (who's likely to resign with LAL anyway). Why would a good coach even want to come here?


you dont need the number 1 pick to get a good player..

free agency is not the only way tto improve the roster, you can make trades...

Knicks are always an attractive job, you get the right president coaches will be lining up to take this job..

Nice hustle  
bceagle05 : 12/7/2019 9:42 pm : link
but the ball has to go through the net to get points. We'll find shooters someday.
Knicks out hustling the Pacers for every loose ball  
steve in ky : 12/7/2019 9:42 pm : link
But can’t capitalize. Throwing up bricks
If Randle could use his 'bull in china shop' tactics more off the ball  
ChaChing : 12/7/2019 9:46 pm : link
and try to control his game with it...easier said than done but these guys need to crash the boards more
Fun game, and good effort - crap shooting aside  
ChaChing : 12/7/2019 9:46 pm : link
It's interesting how coaching changes can bump the effort level in the short term (no doubt guys are scared to lose their jobs, maybe see more opportunity...but still)
i hate being a knicks fan  
nygiants16 : 12/7/2019 9:50 pm : link
..
I Hate watching randle play basketball  
Giantfan21 : 12/7/2019 9:50 pm : link
He needs to come off the bench and be reigned in. He plays so out of control all the time.

I can'e believe he was the prized FA by this front office this past offseason
Lol 2 FTs to tie? Knicks have like 1-2 guys for that if that  
ChaChing : 12/7/2019 9:51 pm : link
Garden crowd is starving for some good ball, go figure

oh yeah, me 2 for the last 30 years
you knew he was going to miss 1  
nygiants16 : 12/7/2019 9:52 pm : link
i thought it was going to be the first one..
The walk-off missed free throw.  
bceagle05 : 12/7/2019 9:52 pm : link
Add it to the annals of Knicks history.
I have never hated a Knick player  
Chris L. : 12/7/2019 9:54 pm : link
more than I hate Randle. I absolutely KNEW his was not going to make both free throws. Most unclutch guy I have ever seen. Has he made a single critical shot all year. Can't count the number of games they have lost because of this guy.
RE: The walk-off missed free throw.  
nygiants16 : 12/7/2019 9:55 pm : link
In comment 14706638 bceagle05 said:
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Add it to the annals of Knicks history.


not the first time, marbury against the suns i thibk he had 35 points but missed a game tying free throw with no time left
On the positive side  
Chris L. : 12/7/2019 9:56 pm : link
nice to see the team play man for man defense without the ridiculous "lets switch every time there is a pick" garbage. It is the only way to keep players personally accountable for their own defense.
Tough loss but they made it competitive  
steve in ky : 12/7/2019 9:56 pm : link
If Miller can get them to consistently play with that effort they will at least be more fun to watch. Even though I know he has litte to no shot at making it stick, I can’t help but root for guys like Miller that get a shot at being the HC after have spent years of paying their dues.
2 things i noticed  
nygiants16 : 12/7/2019 9:56 pm : link
on offense a lot of attacking the rim going downhill..

on defense not a lot of switching and guys going over the screen to get players off the 3 point line
also payton blamed very good in that 4th  
nygiants16 : 12/7/2019 9:57 pm : link
he pkayed like he was playing before he got hurt, i like frank, but i think payton starts
Why is Dotson  
XBRONX : 12/8/2019 8:02 am : link
playing over Trier?
According to begely  
nygiants16 : 12/8/2019 9:37 am : link
Knicks are looking for a floor general and have had conversations with other execs trying to improve the team..

Knicks are going to trade for one of the okc point guards, either schroeder or chris paul, in my opinion

Having a lame duck  
Jon in NYC : 12/8/2019 9:54 am : link
President and GM mortgage the future to save their jobs is so Knicks.

What a goddamn disaster. Schroeder is one thing, but three years of Chris Paul at 40 mil a pop? Holy shit.
RE: Having a lame duck  
nygiants16 : 12/8/2019 9:59 am : link
In comment 14706914 Jon in NYC said:
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President and GM mortgage the future to save their jobs is so Knicks.

What a goddamn disaster. Schroeder is one thing, but three years of Chris Paul at 40 mil a pop? Holy shit.


if you get picks back, you still will have flexibility, knicks are not signing any big time free agents anyway...

no picks, no deal.
Schroder blows  
XBRONX : 12/8/2019 10:00 am : link
Cant shoot and assist to turnover ratio is pure shit in two years with OKC
Yeah  
Jon in NYC : 12/8/2019 10:05 am : link
Schroder doesn't move the needle. Would much rather give Payton an extended look and save the assets.
RE: Why is Dotson  
TyreeHelmet : 12/8/2019 10:51 am : link
In comment 14706781 XBRONX said:
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playing over Trier?


Have you watched Trier this season? I’m all for playing the young players but Trier has been unplayable. He can’t guard anyone and is a turnover machine. Truly a terrible defender.

I understand wanting to play the young guys but some of these guys are just really bad - Knox , DSJ and Trier.
there is no universe  
Enzo : 12/8/2019 10:56 am : link
in which acquiring Chris Paul at 2/85 is a good move for the Knicks. I don't care how many picks they include.
RE: Having a lame duck  
BigBlueShock : 12/8/2019 11:23 am : link
In comment 14706914 Jon in NYC said:
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President and GM mortgage the future to save their jobs is so Knicks.

What a goddamn disaster. Schroeder is one thing, but three years of Chris Paul at 40 mil a pop? Holy shit.

This is exactly why if Dolan plans on canning Mills, it has to be done right now. Mills will go scorched earth to try to save his job and completely screw the future. Again. Just get this clown out of the building. He’s done enough damage.
cmon we all know what is going to happen  
nygiants16 : 12/8/2019 12:08 pm : link
Knicks are trading for kevin love and chris paul
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