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Then, there’s the comedy of errors that is Gettleman trading potentially the No. 66 overall pick for a defensive end, to replace defensive end B.J. Hill -- who was chosen No. 69 overall in 2018 -- and was made virtually irrelevant by the acquisition of Williams. |
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many are now realizing this org is out of touch with today's NFL, after NO RESULTS since 2011. One season out of that sequence (easy schedule, good defense, imbecile wide receiver that shows up to play game not ready to play).
In today' world of QBs we select a slightly more mobile Eli Manning clone that fumbles like him. Its called dual-threat, maybe the org should add that to their football vocabulary.
Slightly more mobile? Slightly?
I am comparing his mobility to a typical dual threat QB that is giving the league problems and Jones is not one of them. Eventually he will slow down like Eli and now they likely do not want him moving too much with the ball security issues.
Parkland grad Lombardo has gone from being a fan to working at the Fanatic - ( New Window )
This is a young roster and will get a little younger next year when some vets are cut or not RE-signed.
I think Williams is a good addition and while sacks are great, stopping the run and providing pressure are just as important in team defense.
Many are judging DG but not taking into account Mara’s desire to keep Eli around and for the GM will need to work around that situation. Add OBJ to the mix in a tough decision to sign and then trade him. Shurmur couldn’t handle OBJ, and I think the owners got tired of his act. DG didn’t the best he could and got a player and 2 picks.
Our team will be much better next year. The 3rd rounder won’t be missed.
I do think that when you first come in with a whole new coaching, FA and draft cycles months away...and the franchise has no franchise players and a QB transition upon it...I could see 4 unless its a disaster.
In a league with an average player tenure of 3.8 years and under 25% success rate for draft slots from midway through the 3rd round on down and only 7 slots per draft...needing immediate upgrades at the top 3-5 positions inclines me to 4 unless the top 2 per draft and the HC selection are all misses. All the rest are going to be less than 50% probability decisions anywhere in the league.
Like American Presidents and CEO's if they get 2 out of 3 of the biggest decisions of the time ( not the same as their top 3 priorities) right - then their tenure is likely to be endlessly debatable depending on what tribe you cling to...but not really the worst and clearly not the best
To me, the SB decision now looks like a mis-allocation ( not a bad pick but an out of sequence decision) and the coach is
a disaster that wont hurt in the long run ( team is young enough to recover) if we get him out and replaced with a better than average choice.
I think the performance evaluation cycle for coaches is 2 years and the metrics are how hard they play, how many players improve and if the HC game day decisions lost more than 2 games a season for 2 years running.
Reasonable but sharp performance expectations is the key during this period.
At this point with DG I would make sure this FA offseason did not contain the degrees of freedom he used to have on contract positions, terms and size limits.
Shooting for the moon to get one or two "announcements" would be my fear. Im in favor of the FA tier below the most costly and im in favor of short years even if the tradeoff is short high guarantees. We need to move on if we need to move on. Shorten our commitments at this time.
The biggest GM decision factor? Who is very likely available and are they highly likely to be better or more of the same. Its great to call for change but in a 50% sport the risk assessment matters.
To me the HC has to go because I just don't believe the players will follow him next year...risking a repeat of the terrible culture under second year McAdoo.
In the case of the HC the risk of not replacing him is greater than the risk of a less than perfect coach.
For all I know, the owners like this GM to be the fall guy of shit period where patience was always going to be required. They are up for enough adverse opinion without having to want to absorb all of it. Notice if they chose another one who still cant improve the product fast enough for a bad decade...they bring all the blame closer and closer
That's more of an indictment of Hill than praise for LW. Players like LW are not that difficult to find, good against the run, meh against the pass and no sacks, for a team desperate for pas rush help it just made zero sense. The idea of franchise tagging or signing this guy to a big$ long term contract is the kind of move that keeps bad franchises in cap difficulty. Remember this guy is in his contract year so you're seeing the absolute best he can muster, I doubt you'll see that after the giants foolishly sign him to big bucks.
Do they win one or two per year that were not expected?
In other words was the team so well prepared and had enough of the right games plans that they won 1-2 that were upsets?
I cant remember any upsets under PS. None. No breakthrough plans or schemes. Last HC/DC/OC I remember surprising a better team was Spags and under TC
Totally agree....I’m pretty sure astute Giant fans aren’t quoting Lombardo and Leonard for sure.
I can see how this fan base fell for “Jabril Peppers is like getting a first rounder”
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How can anyone say this is stupid? You do realize he was a top 10 coming out of college. You also realize talented big men on the DL are a commodity to cherish.
I can see how this fan base fell for “Jabril Peppers is like getting a first rounder”
The idea that Giants fans are a smart fan base is a farce.
Because he didn't trade a 3rd for Williams. He traded a 3rd for 7 games from Williams on a team nowhere close to the playoffs. This is a move you make if you are trying to close the gap on other playoff teams.
BBIer's seem to think that Williams won't go somewhere else because he's here already, like it's hard for a millionaire to move, or find a deli with his favorite sandwich or whatever. A team shows Williams more money, he's gone and we lost a draft pick. On a team that needs draft picks to rebuild a roster.