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Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/8/2019 12:17 pm
Chargers at Jaguars

Steelers at Cardinals

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Chiefs at Patriots
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this  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/8/2019 7:04 pm : link
Pats game is about as poorly officiated as I've ever seen.
Pats fans are the worst in sports  
bubba0825 : 12/8/2019 7:04 pm : link
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Embarrassing  
ColHowPepper : 12/8/2019 7:04 pm : link
What was the source judge looking at on those two plays?
Pats got ripped on that should've been td  
micky : 12/8/2019 7:05 pm : link
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RE: this  
black aces : 12/8/2019 7:05 pm : link
In comment 14707705 Eric from BBI said:
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Pats game is about as poorly officiated as I've ever seen.


Jerome Boger sucks. Yet, he seems to get a lot of big games.

How has the college game avoided the officiating issues every week the NFL sees?
Bc of refs pats burned all their timeouts too  
micky : 12/8/2019 7:07 pm : link
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.Pat's got hosed  
GiantsUA : 12/8/2019 7:08 pm : link
Finish this thing KC
RE: Brady certainly has age  
AcidTest : 12/8/2019 7:08 pm : link
In comment 14707653 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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but his OL does not protect well. Weapons are the worst he has probably had. I am not sure people realize how good the OL has been during his tenure. So I see part age and talent he has. Like most QB's it gets tough to perform.


Agreed.
RE: Bc of refs pats burned all their timeouts too  
AcidTest : 12/8/2019 7:09 pm : link
In comment 14707711 micky said:
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They still have one.
Gilmore  
bubba0825 : 12/8/2019 7:10 pm : link
Gets away with one
RE: RE: Brady certainly has age  
huygens20 : 12/8/2019 7:11 pm : link
In comment 14707713 AcidTest said:
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but his OL does not protect well. Weapons are the worst he has probably had. I am not sure people realize how good the OL has been during his tenure. So I see part age and talent he has. Like most QB's it gets tough to perform.



Agreed.


Brady can have all the time in the world

It doesnít change the fact that they canít throw deep and it is very easy for dbs to get good breaks on his throws Bc everything is underneath
When Murrayís not getting sacked  
jeff57 : 12/8/2019 7:12 pm : link
Heís throwing the ball to Joe Haden,
Quite the 2-minute offense by Kylar Murray  
Bramton1 : 12/8/2019 7:12 pm : link
A sack, a fumble, an incomplete pass, and an interception.
RE: RE: RE: Chris Jones is  
huygens20 : 12/8/2019 7:12 pm : link
In comment 14707699 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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100 times better than Leonard Williams and we didn't have to give up a the top 3rd round pick to get him. Just could have paid him.



Itís amazing how the DG excuse makers donít realize that we not only gave up a 3rd round pick

WE ALSO have to pay him 18m/year. When we couldíve just paid him anyway in the off-season



Jesus, Williams' price tag gets higher and higher on here each week.

$18M??

Nest thing you know, we'll have given up a 1st and thrown in Daniel Jones as part of it


Giants have no leverage

LW will get a near record breaking deal, certainly north of what geno Atkins and maybe matching fletcher cox

Gettleshit gonna hang that contract over maras neck just like he did with solder. A beautiful parting gift
Boger is the worse official ever  
micky : 12/8/2019 7:14 pm : link
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Jerome Booger's crew  
section125 : 12/8/2019 7:14 pm : link
making major mistake after major mistake in the KC NE game.

New England getting screwed badly all game and getting screwed late.

Blew a whistle on a fumble, called a TD OB when the WR was clearly in bounds. Called a TD on a drop then changed the call did not restart the clock after they said it was a TD after New England offense was going off the field...this was all on one series.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Chris Jones is  
jeff57 : 12/8/2019 7:15 pm : link
In comment 14707720 huygens20 said:
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100 times better than Leonard Williams and we didn't have to give up a the top 3rd round pick to get him. Just could have paid him.



Itís amazing how the DG excuse makers donít realize that we not only gave up a 3rd round pick

WE ALSO have to pay him 18m/year. When we couldíve just paid him anyway in the off-season



Jesus, Williams' price tag gets higher and higher on here each week.

$18M??

Nest thing you know, we'll have given up a 1st and thrown in Daniel Jones as part of it



Giants have no leverage

LW will get a near record breaking deal, certainly north of what geno Atkins and maybe matching fletcher cox

Gettleshit gonna hang that contract over maras neck just like he did with solder. A beautiful parting gift


Mara had to sign off on the deal Iím sure. He hung it around his own neck.
I almost always root against the Pats, but  
CT Charlie : 12/8/2019 7:15 pm : link
the refs have been stealing the game from them in the past 15 minutes. Terrible officiating cost them two undisputed TDs (although if the first one played out, the second bad call wouldn't have happened).

And there have been a boatload of lesser calls, almost as bad.
RE: RE: Donít rule out Spags getting an interview for HC..  
joeinpa : 12/8/2019 7:15 pm : link
In comment 14707642 yalebowl said:
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If KC ends strong and makes a deep playoff run. Heís family.



I agree. He should have succeeded Coughlin and for sure McAdoo.


Love Spags, but I m one of those guys that like the Giants way. Not too popular right now
RE: RE: RE: Donít rule out Spags getting an interview for HC..  
jvm52106 : 12/8/2019 7:17 pm : link
In comment 14707726 joeinpa said:
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If KC ends strong and makes a deep playoff run. Heís family.



I agree. He should have succeeded Coughlin and for sure McAdoo.



Love Spags, but I m one of those guys that like the Giants way. Not too popular right now



If people here don't want Rivera then they sure as hell don't want Spags... Dear god, he has been horrific as a HC.
If  
Ron Johnson : 12/8/2019 7:17 pm : link
The Pat lose itís on little Bill.

Not often thatís been the case
The Cardinals may want to evaluate these 2020 QBís  
Sean : 12/8/2019 7:20 pm : link
Not impressed with Murray.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Chris Jones is  
huygens20 : 12/8/2019 7:22 pm : link
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100 times better than Leonard Williams and we didn't have to give up a the top 3rd round pick to get him. Just could have paid him.



Itís amazing how the DG excuse makers donít realize that we not only gave up a 3rd round pick

WE ALSO have to pay him 18m/year. When we couldíve just paid him anyway in the off-season



Jesus, Williams' price tag gets higher and higher on here each week.

$18M??

Nest thing you know, we'll have given up a 1st and thrown in Daniel Jones as part of it



Giants have no leverage

LW will get a near record breaking deal, certainly north of what geno Atkins and maybe matching fletcher cox

Gettleshit gonna hang that contract over maras neck just like he did with solder. A beautiful parting gift



Mara had to sign off on the deal Iím sure. He hung it around his own neck.


Lol

Do you really think Mara was salivating at the idea of making a deal with the jets

Where he literally got robbed,

And nodded in excitement that this was a great deal? If he had no consternationís about this deal he is far far dumber than we all anticipated


This is all about that napping boomer creating another sunk cost for Mara and digging his trench deeper

Repeat after me:

He
Is
A
Free
Agent


Gettleshit traded
For
A
Free
Agent
At
2-7 record
Mahomes needs a few completions  
bceagle05 : 12/8/2019 7:27 pm : link
to go with that fiery NFL Films moment on the sideline.
IMO  
bubba0825 : 12/8/2019 7:29 pm : link
That was offensive pass interference on a trick play
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Chris Jones is  
section125 : 12/8/2019 7:29 pm : link
In comment 14707736 huygens20 said:
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Repeat after me:

He
Is
A
Free
Agent


Gettleshit traded
For
A
Free
Agent
At
2-7 record


So
What?

This
Is
A
Game
Thread.

Take
your
bitch
to
the
William's
thread.
Refs are awful  
map7711 : 12/8/2019 7:32 pm : link
Just awful
...  
Man In The Box : 12/8/2019 7:33 pm : link
Refs doing NE dirty
Tom Brady showing off his elite speed  
dpinzow : 12/8/2019 7:33 pm : link
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Booger's crew misses  
section125 : 12/8/2019 7:34 pm : link
a PI against the Chiefs. The safety tackled Dorsett at the 3 yardline with nobody else around to block their view.

You can not make this many major mistakes in a game and keep your job. This entire crew should be fired tomorrow morning.
Like Eric said  
map7711 : 12/8/2019 7:34 pm : link
One of the worst officiated games in a long time
RE: RE: RE: Chris Jones is  
EricJ : 12/8/2019 7:35 pm : link
In comment 14707699 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Jesus, Williams' price tag gets higher and higher on here each week.

$18M??

Nest thing you know, we'll have given up a 1st and thrown in Daniel Jones as part of it


yeah no shit! for a guy who apparently is not that good, he sure is going to make a lot of money somehow next year
RE: Like Eric said  
EricJ : 12/8/2019 7:36 pm : link
In comment 14707752 map7711 said:
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One of the worst officiated games in a long time


so much for thinking the Pats get every call...
Bad throw by Brady...  
EricJ : 12/8/2019 7:37 pm : link
if he does not throw it low, Edelman has a chance to score on that
RE: Booger's crew misses  
markky : 12/8/2019 7:37 pm : link
In comment 14707751 section125 said:
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a PI against the Chiefs. The safety tackled Dorsett at the 3 yardline with nobody else around to block their view.

You can not make this many major mistakes in a game and keep your job. This entire crew should be fired tomorrow morning.


i'm not rooting for New England, but this officiating takes the joy out of watching the NFL
Spags beats Belichick and McDaniels again  
dpinzow : 12/8/2019 7:38 pm : link
like Super Bowl 42
Nice play by Breeland  
jeff57 : 12/8/2019 7:38 pm : link
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Not  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/8/2019 7:39 pm : link
a fan of the Pats, but they got screwed in this one.
RE: Not  
black aces : 12/8/2019 7:42 pm : link
In comment 14707763 Eric from BBI said:
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a fan of the Pats, but they got screwed in this one.


Its about time for them. Happens to every one else often to the benefit of NE.

This will be big news now since it happened to them.

NFL is a joke though.
Nice to finally see the refs screw the Pats for a change  
NYerInMA : 12/8/2019 7:42 pm : link
Lord knows they've won a ton of games they deserved to lose being on the flip side of that equation.
Why NFL assigns Jerome Boger a big game  
Mike in NY : 12/8/2019 7:44 pm : link
Is beyond me. Not sure if he could possibly be worse than Jeff Triplette.
Pat's very seldom get short end of stick  
GiantsUA : 12/8/2019 7:47 pm : link
Fuck em
Jerome..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/8/2019 7:52 pm : link
Boger still being able to officiate would be like instating a rule that Nathan Peterman has to be a starting QB for the next 10 years.
Love to hear what Kraft says to Goodell  
CT Charlie : 12/8/2019 7:53 pm : link
in their next conversation. Those refs shouldn't work another game for awhile.

RE: RE: RE: Chris Jones is  
bw in dc : 12/8/2019 8:16 pm : link
In comment 14707699 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Jesus, Williams' price tag gets higher and higher on here each week.

$18M??

Nest thing you know, we'll have given up a 1st and thrown in Daniel Jones as part of it


Have you studied the comps? The franchise tag for a DT is going to be close to $16M.

Last summer, Grady Jarrett got $17M/yr. And his production is almost identical to LW's over 5 years. So that's the current benchmark. And if you consider YoY inflation, we wouldn't it be $18M?
Williams,..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/8/2019 9:10 pm : link
market price should be about $13-$14M.

But the double-talk is hilarious. Some people act like he's a non-factor in one sentence, then say he's worth $18M in the next.

which is it??
RE: RE: RE: RE: Chris Jones is  
BigBlueShock : 12/8/2019 9:38 pm : link
In comment 14707844 bw in dc said:
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Jesus, Williams' price tag gets higher and higher on here each week.

$18M??

Nest thing you know, we'll have given up a 1st and thrown in Daniel Jones as part of it



Have you studied the comps? The franchise tag for a DT is going to be close to $16M.

Last summer, Grady Jarrett got $17M/yr. And his production is almost identical to LW's over 5 years. So that's the current benchmark. And if you consider YoY inflation, we wouldn't it be $18M?

There are exactly 4 Defensive Linemen in the entire NFL making $18 Million annually, according to Spotrac. Leonard Williams is not getting $18M/per.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Chris Jones is  
bw in dc : 12/8/2019 10:07 pm : link
In comment 14707920 BigBlueShock said:
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Jesus, Williams' price tag gets higher and higher on here each week.

$18M??

Nest thing you know, we'll have given up a 1st and thrown in Daniel Jones as part of it



Have you studied the comps? The franchise tag for a DT is going to be close to $16M.

Last summer, Grady Jarrett got $17M/yr. And his production is almost identical to LW's over 5 years. So that's the current benchmark. And if you consider YoY inflation, we wouldn't it be $18M?


There are exactly 4 Defensive Linemen in the entire NFL making $18 Million annually, according to Spotrac. Leonard Williams is not getting $18M/per.


You can ignore the comp all you want, but Grady Jarrett is the last DT signed to a multi-year contract over the summer. He and LW play the same position and have nearly the same exact stats. So to think that's not going to be the starting point makes zero sense.

Meanwhile, the franchise tag is expectec to be $16M. If they can't agree to a long term deal, Jints Central will tag him...
RE: Williams,..  
bw in dc : 12/8/2019 10:12 pm : link
In comment 14707890 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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market price should be about $13-$14M.

But the double-talk is hilarious. Some people act like he's a non-factor in one sentence, then say he's worth $18M in the next.

which is it??


I don't think he's worth the money. I'm merely citing the market. You can continue to live in the Land of Make Believe, but you clearly don't understand the current market.

Jurrell Casey got $15M in 2017. Jarrett got $17M in 2018. Both are DTs with very similar stats to LW.

Now, if LW's team is incompetent, maybe we get a steal. But the market just doesn't support - at all - $13M. NFW.

See the link.
Comps - ( New Window )
RE: Williams,..  
santacruzom : 12/8/2019 10:28 pm : link
In comment 14707890 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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market price should be about $13-$14M.

But the double-talk is hilarious. Some people act like he's a non-factor in one sentence, then say he's worth $18M in the next.

which is it??


Maybe they don't think that's what he's worth, but rather what we'll be persuaded into paying.
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