but his OL does not protect well. Weapons are the worst he has probably had. I am not sure people realize how good the OL has been during his tenure. So I see part age and talent he has. Like most QB's it gets tough to perform.
2003. Amazing people up here. Great communities. The most spoiled sports fans across all sports. They will be miserable once the pats go in decline but will just switch to another sport again. The day after the Giants beat them in 2007, everyone I saw was dressed in Red Sox great.
Every year at some point I say Brady is washed up. Â
Spags has had a mediocre at best record being a def coordinator
He’s the guy you hire that won’t completely fuck shit up. He’s had a lot of bottom third defenses, but when he’s been given actual talent he’s been OK to good.
That was an easy fumble call, yet they blew the whistle. I hate the Pats, but that should have been a fumble return for TD. Ridiculous. BB has to use another challenge after losing a challenge on a horrific spot on 3rd down
but his OL does not protect well. Weapons are the worst he has probably had. I am not sure people realize how good the OL has been during his tenure. So I see part age and talent he has. Like most QB's it gets tough to perform.
Agreed.
RE: Bc of refs pats burned all their timeouts too Â
but his OL does not protect well. Weapons are the worst he has probably had. I am not sure people realize how good the OL has been during his tenure. So I see part age and talent he has. Like most QB's it gets tough to perform.
Agreed.
Brady can have all the time in the world
It doesn’t change the fact that they can’t throw deep and it is very easy for dbs to get good breaks on his throws Bc everything is underneath
making major mistake after major mistake in the KC NE game.
New England getting screwed badly all game and getting screwed late.
Blew a whistle on a fumble, called a TD OB when the WR was clearly in bounds. Called a TD on a drop then changed the call did not restart the clock after they said it was a TD after New England offense was going off the field...this was all on one series.
the refs have been stealing the game from them in the past 15 minutes. Terrible officiating cost them two undisputed TDs (although if the first one played out, the second bad call wouldn't have happened).
And there have been a boatload of lesser calls, almost as bad.
RE: RE: Don’t rule out Spags getting an interview for HC.. Â
Jesus, Williams' price tag gets higher and higher on here each week.
$18M??
Nest thing you know, we'll have given up a 1st and thrown in Daniel Jones as part of it
Have you studied the comps? The franchise tag for a DT is going to be close to $16M.
Last summer, Grady Jarrett got $17M/yr. And his production is almost identical to LW's over 5 years. So that's the current benchmark. And if you consider YoY inflation, we wouldn't it be $18M?
Jesus, Williams' price tag gets higher and higher on here each week.
$18M??
Nest thing you know, we'll have given up a 1st and thrown in Daniel Jones as part of it
Have you studied the comps? The franchise tag for a DT is going to be close to $16M.
Last summer, Grady Jarrett got $17M/yr. And his production is almost identical to LW's over 5 years. So that's the current benchmark. And if you consider YoY inflation, we wouldn't it be $18M?
There are exactly 4 Defensive Linemen in the entire NFL making $18 Million annually, according to Spotrac. Leonard Williams is not getting $18M/per.
Jesus, Williams' price tag gets higher and higher on here each week.
$18M??
Nest thing you know, we'll have given up a 1st and thrown in Daniel Jones as part of it
Have you studied the comps? The franchise tag for a DT is going to be close to $16M.
Last summer, Grady Jarrett got $17M/yr. And his production is almost identical to LW's over 5 years. So that's the current benchmark. And if you consider YoY inflation, we wouldn't it be $18M?
There are exactly 4 Defensive Linemen in the entire NFL making $18 Million annually, according to Spotrac. Leonard Williams is not getting $18M/per.
You can ignore the comp all you want, but Grady Jarrett is the last DT signed to a multi-year contract over the summer. He and LW play the same position and have nearly the same exact stats. So to think that's not going to be the starting point makes zero sense.
Meanwhile, the franchise tag is expectec to be $16M. If they can't agree to a long term deal, Jints Central will tag him...
But the double-talk is hilarious. Some people act like he's a non-factor in one sentence, then say he's worth $18M in the next.
which is it??
I don't think he's worth the money. I'm merely citing the market. You can continue to live in the Land of Make Believe, but you clearly don't understand the current market.
Jurrell Casey got $15M in 2017. Jarrett got $17M in 2018. Both are DTs with very similar stats to LW.
Now, if LW's team is incompetent, maybe we get a steal. But the market just doesn't support - at all - $13M. NFW.
There is no way they'll let it happen but the NFL says if they don't get their equipment to Foxboro by 4:25 it will.
Ha, you me and Scott Hanson all said it at the same time.
That would be hilarious.
Gilmore makes a great PD
seems like eons since we’ve been able to do the same
Marone is on his way out.
Yes, that was a convoluted way of saying all these hits are having an effect.
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Doug Marrone DMW.
Marone is on his way out.
Wonder if TC joins him. Getting ugly.
I agree. He should have succeeded Coughlin and for sure McAdoo.
But until BB is gone, I dont count them out.
I live in the middle of it and believe me thats MOST Pats fans
On the opposite side you have to give it to Andy Reid, he has been successful for a very long time and could be on his way to a SB run with Mahomes..
Struggling against the good pass rushing teams
Can’t look deep
Everything underneath
And Brady didn’t have Odell Beckham
And all the KC dbs are playjng zone in the backend and looking for Brady
Getting good breaks on the ball Bc they know Brady can’t go deep anymore
Doesn’t have the WRs
Doesn’t have the oline
They don’t even need to play cover 2
It’s amazing how the DG excuse makers don’t realize that we not only gave up a 3rd round pick
WE ALSO have to pay him 18m/year. When we could’ve just paid him anyway in the off-season
but ARI falls to 3-9-1.
He’s the guy you hire that won’t completely fuck shit up. He’s had a lot of bottom third defenses, but when he’s been given actual talent he’s been OK to good.
That man officiated a super bowl. Its unreal.
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100 times better than Leonard Williams and we didn't have to give up a the top 3rd round pick to get him. Just could have paid him.
It’s amazing how the DG excuse makers don’t realize that we not only gave up a 3rd round pick
WE ALSO have to pay him 18m/year. When we could’ve just paid him anyway in the off-season
Jesus, Williams' price tag gets higher and higher on here each week.
$18M??
Nest thing you know, we'll have given up a 1st and thrown in Daniel Jones as part of it
Jerome Boger sucks. Yet, he seems to get a lot of big games.
How has the college game avoided the officiating issues every week the NFL sees?
Agreed.
They still have one.
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but his OL does not protect well. Weapons are the worst he has probably had. I am not sure people realize how good the OL has been during his tenure. So I see part age and talent he has. Like most QB's it gets tough to perform.
Agreed.
Brady can have all the time in the world
It doesn’t change the fact that they can’t throw deep and it is very easy for dbs to get good breaks on his throws Bc everything is underneath
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100 times better than Leonard Williams and we didn't have to give up a the top 3rd round pick to get him. Just could have paid him.
It’s amazing how the DG excuse makers don’t realize that we not only gave up a 3rd round pick
WE ALSO have to pay him 18m/year. When we could’ve just paid him anyway in the off-season
Jesus, Williams' price tag gets higher and higher on here each week.
$18M??
Nest thing you know, we'll have given up a 1st and thrown in Daniel Jones as part of it
Giants have no leverage
LW will get a near record breaking deal, certainly north of what geno Atkins and maybe matching fletcher cox
Gettleshit gonna hang that contract over maras neck just like he did with solder. A beautiful parting gift
New England getting screwed badly all game and getting screwed late.
Blew a whistle on a fumble, called a TD OB when the WR was clearly in bounds. Called a TD on a drop then changed the call did not restart the clock after they said it was a TD after New England offense was going off the field...this was all on one series.
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100 times better than Leonard Williams and we didn't have to give up a the top 3rd round pick to get him. Just could have paid him.
It’s amazing how the DG excuse makers don’t realize that we not only gave up a 3rd round pick
WE ALSO have to pay him 18m/year. When we could’ve just paid him anyway in the off-season
Jesus, Williams' price tag gets higher and higher on here each week.
$18M??
Nest thing you know, we'll have given up a 1st and thrown in Daniel Jones as part of it
Giants have no leverage
LW will get a near record breaking deal, certainly north of what geno Atkins and maybe matching fletcher cox
Gettleshit gonna hang that contract over maras neck just like he did with solder. A beautiful parting gift
Mara had to sign off on the deal I’m sure. He hung it around his own neck.
And there have been a boatload of lesser calls, almost as bad.
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If KC ends strong and makes a deep playoff run. He’s family.
I agree. He should have succeeded Coughlin and for sure McAdoo.
Love Spags, but I m one of those guys that like the Giants way. Not too popular right now
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If KC ends strong and makes a deep playoff run. He’s family.
I agree. He should have succeeded Coughlin and for sure McAdoo.
Love Spags, but I m one of those guys that like the Giants way. Not too popular right now
If people here don't want Rivera then they sure as hell don't want Spags... Dear god, he has been horrific as a HC.
Not often that’s been the case
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100 times better than Leonard Williams and we didn't have to give up a the top 3rd round pick to get him. Just could have paid him.
It’s amazing how the DG excuse makers don’t realize that we not only gave up a 3rd round pick
WE ALSO have to pay him 18m/year. When we could’ve just paid him anyway in the off-season
Jesus, Williams' price tag gets higher and higher on here each week.
$18M??
Nest thing you know, we'll have given up a 1st and thrown in Daniel Jones as part of it
Giants have no leverage
LW will get a near record breaking deal, certainly north of what geno Atkins and maybe matching fletcher cox
Gettleshit gonna hang that contract over maras neck just like he did with solder. A beautiful parting gift
Mara had to sign off on the deal I’m sure. He hung it around his own neck.
Lol
Do you really think Mara was salivating at the idea of making a deal with the jets
Where he literally got robbed,
And nodded in excitement that this was a great deal? If he had no consternation’s about this deal he is far far dumber than we all anticipated
This is all about that napping boomer creating another sunk cost for Mara and digging his trench deeper
Repeat after me:
He
Is
A
Free
Agent
Gettleshit traded
For
A
Free
Agent
At
2-7 record
Repeat after me:
He
Is
A
Free
Agent
Gettleshit traded
For
A
Free
Agent
At
2-7 record
So
What?
This
Is
A
Game
Thread.
Take
your
bitch
to
the
William's
thread.
You can not make this many major mistakes in a game and keep your job. This entire crew should be fired tomorrow morning.
Jesus, Williams' price tag gets higher and higher on here each week.
$18M??
Nest thing you know, we'll have given up a 1st and thrown in Daniel Jones as part of it
yeah no shit! for a guy who apparently is not that good, he sure is going to make a lot of money somehow next year
so much for thinking the Pats get every call...
You can not make this many major mistakes in a game and keep your job. This entire crew should be fired tomorrow morning.
i'm not rooting for New England, but this officiating takes the joy out of watching the NFL
Its about time for them. Happens to every one else often to the benefit of NE.
This will be big news now since it happened to them.
NFL is a joke though.
Jesus, Williams' price tag gets higher and higher on here each week.
$18M??
Nest thing you know, we'll have given up a 1st and thrown in Daniel Jones as part of it
Have you studied the comps? The franchise tag for a DT is going to be close to $16M.
Last summer, Grady Jarrett got $17M/yr. And his production is almost identical to LW's over 5 years. So that's the current benchmark. And if you consider YoY inflation, we wouldn't it be $18M?
But the double-talk is hilarious. Some people act like he's a non-factor in one sentence, then say he's worth $18M in the next.
which is it??
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Jesus, Williams' price tag gets higher and higher on here each week.
$18M??
Nest thing you know, we'll have given up a 1st and thrown in Daniel Jones as part of it
Have you studied the comps? The franchise tag for a DT is going to be close to $16M.
Last summer, Grady Jarrett got $17M/yr. And his production is almost identical to LW's over 5 years. So that's the current benchmark. And if you consider YoY inflation, we wouldn't it be $18M?
There are exactly 4 Defensive Linemen in the entire NFL making $18 Million annually, according to Spotrac. Leonard Williams is not getting $18M/per.
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Jesus, Williams' price tag gets higher and higher on here each week.
$18M??
Nest thing you know, we'll have given up a 1st and thrown in Daniel Jones as part of it
Have you studied the comps? The franchise tag for a DT is going to be close to $16M.
Last summer, Grady Jarrett got $17M/yr. And his production is almost identical to LW's over 5 years. So that's the current benchmark. And if you consider YoY inflation, we wouldn't it be $18M?
There are exactly 4 Defensive Linemen in the entire NFL making $18 Million annually, according to Spotrac. Leonard Williams is not getting $18M/per.
You can ignore the comp all you want, but Grady Jarrett is the last DT signed to a multi-year contract over the summer. He and LW play the same position and have nearly the same exact stats. So to think that's not going to be the starting point makes zero sense.
Meanwhile, the franchise tag is expectec to be $16M. If they can't agree to a long term deal, Jints Central will tag him...
But the double-talk is hilarious. Some people act like he's a non-factor in one sentence, then say he's worth $18M in the next.
which is it??
I don't think he's worth the money. I'm merely citing the market. You can continue to live in the Land of Make Believe, but you clearly don't understand the current market.
Jurrell Casey got $15M in 2017. Jarrett got $17M in 2018. Both are DTs with very similar stats to LW.
Now, if LW's team is incompetent, maybe we get a steal. But the market just doesn't support - at all - $13M. NFW.
See the link.
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But the double-talk is hilarious. Some people act like he's a non-factor in one sentence, then say he's worth $18M in the next.
which is it??
Maybe they don't think that's what he's worth, but rather what we'll be persuaded into paying.