Drew Lock

I liked his arm

Blessed with tremendous ability.

The challenge, long term, will be above the shoulders.

I was hoping any and everything would go wrong with Denver and they'd cut bait early on Vic Fangio.

In comment 14707383 Ryan said:

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I was hoping any and everything would go wrong with Denver and they'd cut bait early on Vic Fangio.

Vic Fangio was my hope as well, not gonna happen now, shucks

admitted he wanted Jones, and Lock fell all the way to the second round. He had some accuracy concerns in college, and came from a spread offense except for his last year IIRC. I would have been fine with him at #17.

Denver is an easy candidate for a 4 win swing next year

Jones looked fantastic his first few games and then some weak points and experience tests came. I expect much the same with Lock. He’s got some gunslinger tendencies to lose his mechanics and throw balls into underneath coverage

Lock has the physical tools interested to see how defenses try and challenge him more.

In comment 14707428 Sammo85 said:

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Jones looked fantastic his first few games and then some weak points and experience tests came. I expect much the same with Lock. He’s got some gunslinger tendencies to lose his mechanics and throw balls into underneath coverage Lock has the physical tools interested to see how defenses try and challenge him more.

Yup, he’s got KC next week. Another interesting test.

In comment 14707401 AcidTest said:

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admitted he wanted Jones, and Lock fell all the way to the second round. He had some accuracy concerns in college, and came from a spread offense except for his last year IIRC. I would have been fine with him at #17.

Oh, yeah - where?

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In comment 14707401 AcidTest said: Quote: admitted he wanted Jones, and Lock fell all the way to the second round. He had some accuracy concerns in college, and came from a spread offense except for his last year IIRC. I would have been fine with him at #17. Oh, yeah - where?

Here, although it's admittedly hearsay.

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source... ;)

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source... ;)

Denver also traded with Pittsburgh as soon as we took Jones, and passed on Lock until the second round.

In comment 14707533 AcidTest said:

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In comment 14707517 bw in dc said: Quote: source... ;) Denver also traded with Pittsburgh as soon as we took Jones, and passed on Lock until the second round.

I don't want to re-litigate this. There has always been this defensive posture around here to justify the pick. Even Gettleman got defensive post-draft to justify his decision.

Personally, I think Denver wanted Hockenson. And once he was gone, they got out of the #10 spot.

'nuff said.

But I’m happy with Jones.

But there were likely issues that only NFL teams were aware of or he would not have fallen to the 2nd round.

In comment 14707569 Stan in LA said:

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'nuff said.

He looks more like the lead singer of Blink 182.

In comment 14707554 bw in dc said:

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In comment 14707533 AcidTest said: Quote: In comment 14707517 bw in dc said: Quote: source... ;) Denver also traded with Pittsburgh as soon as we took Jones, and passed on Lock until the second round. I don't want to re-litigate this. There has always been this defensive posture around here to justify the pick. Even Gettleman got defensive post-draft to justify his decision. Personally, I think Denver wanted Hockenson. And once he was gone, they got out of the #10 spot.

Phil Simms was clear that Denver would have taken Jones.

Second, wasn’t Peter King in Denver’s war room for the draft, and he saw their board and they didn’t have Jones in the first round?

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Gettleman told me he “knows for a fact” there were two teams that wanted Jones between six and 17. I could not find them, though I certainly can’t say with certainty that two do not exist.... But let’s go through the exercise and see about the two teams and Jones, starting with Jacksonville at seven. No; just signed Nick Foles. Detroit; highly unlikely with Matthew Stafford in-house. Buffalo; no, Josh Allen (the Wyoming QB) just drafted last year. Denver at 10: I was there, and Broncos had Drew Lock number one on their QB board.

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In comment 14707961 sb from NYT Forum said:

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Second, wasn’t Peter King in Denver’s war room for the draft, and he saw their board and they didn’t have Jones in the first round?

He was. And at the time I cited King. But because King didn't support the Gettleman narrative - that every team in the NFL wanted Jones - the report was shot down as worthless...

Now I have posters linking other threads citing the old "friend of a friend of a friend" connection as a source...

In comment 14707891 Jay on the Island said:

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Phil Simms was clear that Denver would have taken Jones.

So Peter King, who was in the Denver draft room, would know less than Simms...??

But Daniel Jones was the Messiah after the 2 games and now he's a liability according to the press. It takes film of a QB to see why he's playing well and teams will adjust. It's just a bump, we'll see a lot more over the next 2-3 years so keep your pants on.

connections to like the broncos, use him as a mouth piece to get their narrative out to the public in return I'm sure are what are valuable nuggets occasionally. He has nothing to lose by saying Drew Lock was number 1 on the draft board, it's completely unverifiable and the Broncos now are trying to make it sound like he was their guy all along.

That bullshit doesn't track at all. So you need a quarterback and the number 1 QB on your board is available at 10 but you don't draft him? Bullshit.

In comment 14708009 Zeke's Alibi said:

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connections to like the broncos, use him as a mouth piece to get their narrative out to the public...

Oh, you mean like Gettleman spreading the narrative through Peter King that he “knows for a fact” that two teams wanted Jones between #6 and #17?

Guess what, it’s ok to like Jones without running down other QBs or spreading bullshit that he was the consensus #1 QB in the draft.

For you guys who like to keep up with other young QBs, this was Kyler’s stats from yesterday’s game v Steelers....

2 yards rushing on 6 attempts
1 fumble
194 yards passing
2 td passing
3 interceptions
66 QBR