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Laugh at Odell sure, but Mara should be fuming

huygens20 : 12/8/2019 7:35 pm
fuming for getting duped into believing that Odell was a net negative and team wrecker.

The Odell trade for both sides has been an utter disaster. How many wins has Jabril peppers netted this team? Dexter Lawrence after a quick start has completely become invisible for 8 straight weeks.

How many jerseys and tickets do you guys think Odell puts into the stands? Peppers ? Lawrence?

The proof is in the win loss record. The loss of fan enthusiasm. The loss of young fans.

Its not a joke.


Trading Odell has been a disaster and those that perpetrated it under the guise of

Well, well be a better team because we wont have to force the ball to him. Look at 4 weeks of stats !!!!

Need to be fired. Trading Odell has cost this franchise and fan base a generation worth of new fans, legacy, revenue, and wins.
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RE: Must have hit a nerve  
GiantEgo : 12/8/2019 7:49 pm : link
In comment 14707771 huygens20 said:
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The personal attacks came in fast and furious


Im sure those young fans that go to training camp or the games early are so excited to see dexter Lawrence


Ah... this is really all about your Boomer vendetta...every post same agenda we get it already
Don't agree with your posts  
Lines of Scrimmage : 12/8/2019 7:50 pm : link
but it keeps things balanced out on the site. Please continue your thoughts.
was not a fan of the trade after signing him to a big deal  
larryflower37 : 12/8/2019 7:51 pm : link
which killed the cap but he has done nothing this year besides be a huge distraction
Now he is forcing himself out of Cleveland.
Today he didn't even huddle up with the offense.

2019 stats

57 catches 805 yards 14.1 ypc 2tds
Beckham not huddling with the team - ( New Window )
LMFAO  
BleedBlue : 12/8/2019 7:52 pm : link
odell had ONE FUCKING CATCH against a one win team today. he already wants out of cleveland. how can ANYONE say we lost that trade?!?! holy shit BBI never fails to amaze. this may be the dumbest take to date. OBJ is a clown, very happy we got what we did. watch wat cleveland gets
RE: RE: I'm  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/8/2019 7:53 pm : link
In comment 14707772 huygens20 said:
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In comment 14707769 Eric from BBI said:


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not sure how anyone who has been paying attention this year thinks it was a mistake to trade Odell.



Try paying attention to fan attendance


Wasn't Odell here in 2017 and 2018?
I liked Odell, but he has been a massive disappointment this year  
Zeke's Alibi : 12/8/2019 7:53 pm : link
as far on his on field performance is concerned. He used to make circus grabs routinely but often wouldn't make the routine play. As his circus grabs have diminished, his drops are becoming more noticeable. I watched a game this year where ESPN was going apeshit but if you watched the game you'd conclude he played a poor game. 3 third down plays missed.
You're kidding right?  
FStubbs : 12/8/2019 7:53 pm : link
I'm extremely critical of Gettleman, but I don't know how anyone can see what Beckham has become and could possibly say the trade was a bad move.

Beckham is a declining player and Lawrence alone is worth more than Beckham at this point. Peppers and Ximenes are bonuses.
RE: I'm  
MM_in_NYC : 12/8/2019 7:54 pm : link
In comment 14707769 Eric from BBI said:
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not sure how anyone who has been paying attention this year thinks it was a mistake to trade Odell.


I mean, we have 2 wins. I've sure paid attention to that.
How has anything transpired that makes anyone think it was a mistake?  
Matt M. : 12/8/2019 7:54 pm : link
Mara is most definitely not fuming. The trade may not have worked out for the Giants, but it wouldn't have been any better with him.

Up until last year, I was a huge fan of OBJ. I didn't love all his antics, but wrote most of them off as just him being a bit off. But, the last year or two he went overboard. At the same time he went from being the most dynamic offensive player I've ever seen to a second tier WR.

This is hysterical.  
Vin_Cuccs : 12/8/2019 7:57 pm : link
I was literally just thinking about how great it is that his drama is no longer our problem.

Amazingly talented, enormous headache.

They unloaded his contract, and got two picks back in return.

Also, I think it is very fair to question his durability at this point. He has played in all 16 games only once in his career, and even though hes on track to play in 16 this year, hes been dealing with a variety of injuries.
the biggest mistake was drafting him not trading him  
gtt350 : 12/8/2019 7:57 pm : link
,
MM_in_NYC  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/8/2019 7:57 pm : link
Again, Odell was here in 2017 and 2018.

The guy is a see you next Tuesday.
Look Im the first to admit;  
The_Boss : 12/8/2019 8:01 pm : link
I LOATHE everything about Dave Gettleman and believe he needs to be shit canned at seasons end. AND I hammered him here for what I thought was getting railroaded in the Odell trade. That being said, after what we know about the year hes had in Cleveland and the news that hes asked to be traded, I am 100% in DGs corner for trading Beckham. This is likely the first and only time I might be able to post anything positive regarding DG, so dont get used to it.
RE: Look Im the first to admit;  
The_Boss : 12/8/2019 8:03 pm : link
In comment 14707816 The_Boss said:
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I LOATHE everything about Dave Gettleman and believe he needs to be shit canned at seasons end. AND I hammered him here for what I thought was getting railroaded in the Odell trade. That being said, after what we know about the year hes had in Cleveland and the news that hes asked to be traded, I am 100% in DGs corner for trading Beckham. This is likely the first and only time I might be able to post anything positive regarding DG, so dont get used to it.


The OPs POV is ridiculous, to say the least.
RE: Must have hit a nerve  
jvm52106 : 12/8/2019 8:04 pm : link
In comment 14707771 huygens20 said:
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The personal attacks came in fast and furious


Im sure those young fans that go to training camp or the games early are so excited to see dexter Lawrence


You make zero sense and then compound that by attacking those that point out your idiocy.. Congrats, you would gave made a great Captain for the Titanic!
Wow the F-ing clown shows continues on BBI  
ZogZerg : 12/8/2019 8:11 pm : link
This dumb ass just keeps posting more stupid shit after stupid shit.
RE: Must have hit a nerve  
Mendenhall64 : 12/8/2019 8:19 pm : link
In comment 14707771 huygens20 said:
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The personal attacks came in fast and furious


Im sure those young fans that go to training camp or the games early are so excited to see dexter Lawrence


Accurately calling your post stupid is not a personal attack per se. The post is clearly stupid.
RE: RE: May be the worst  
McNally's_Nuts : 12/8/2019 8:21 pm : link
In comment 14707765 EricJ said:
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In comment 14707761 section125 said:


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and stupidest post in recent memory. Not one thing you said was true.



Not sure that I agree with you. He has had such a long string of stupid posts over the past few weeks that this one may not even be the worst.


LOL. For real!
These days, this message board  
Mr. Bungle : 12/8/2019 8:24 pm : link
is only slightly better than the old Giants.com message board.

Just excruciatingly awful football opinions thrown around like shit in a monkey cage.
I would trade Odell straight up for big Dex  
Scuzzlebutt : 12/8/2019 8:51 pm : link
in an instant. There is no debate here. Whatever you think of DG he absolutely fleeced the Browns on that trade.
The real issue to fret about vis a vis the Giants  
gidiefor : Mod : 12/8/2019 8:53 pm : link
is whether or not it was a good move to sign him to a long term contract.

The trade was done just at the right moment, and thank god for that - the value of the signing itself is what the issue is.

I can see that signing in two different lights -

one is that by signing Odell, the Giants created enough value to get essentially two number 1 picks+, Peppers and #17 and Cleveland's 3

the other is what could they have gotten for him if there was no long term contract in place, would it have been as lucrative.
RE: These days, this message board  
Thankyoueli : 12/8/2019 8:55 pm : link
In comment 14707854 Mr. Bungle said:
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is only slightly better than the old Giants.com message board.

Just excruciatingly awful football opinions thrown around like shit in a monkey cage.


I miss the giants.com board as awful as it was lol
We lost badly with him  
Matt M. : 12/8/2019 8:56 pm : link
Why not lose without him, but pickup some picks/players in the process?

He is nowhere near the player he was a couple of years ago.
Odell  
oreojenkins : 12/8/2019 9:03 pm : link
He's bottom 5 in the league in terms of turning his opportunity into production. He's been objectively terrible. Getting out from his contract has value in and of itself. The rest is gravy.
Loved Odell  
Nine-Tails : 12/8/2019 9:16 pm : link
Early on was a complete joy just to watch. But, I havent missed him at all. Never once this year, did I think of Odells absence. Even though we suck, are bottom-feeders, and a joke right now, its liberating not having to deal with his BS
RE: RE: I'm  
EricJ : 12/8/2019 9:23 pm : link
In comment 14707772 huygens20 said:
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In comment 14707769 Eric from BBI said:


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not sure how anyone who has been paying attention this year thinks it was a mistake to trade Odell.



Try paying attention to fan attendance


Right... because the place would be packed if OBJ was on the team despite having just 3 wins.

I hope you are not working in the education system.
I am of the minset  
WalterSobchak : 12/8/2019 9:26 pm : link
that you just dont pay a wr $20 mill , its just too much for that position to field a long term winning team imo. I hate what DG has done with this team and want him gone yesterday , but it was a solid trade on his part.
Why would we fans give a shit about the team's revenue?  
BestFeature : 12/8/2019 10:58 pm : link
They're in no danger of relocating. What nonsense.
The team's handling of the Beckham situation was a disaster  
jcn56 : 12/8/2019 11:16 pm : link
Even if you think they're better off without him, there's no way that you can spin it that signing him to that huge deal then dealing him made any sense.

What they got in return was a huge chunk of dead cap, the 17th overall pick used for an interior defensive lineman who doesn't rush the passer, a third round pick that was squandered and a safety who to this point in his career has had one good season.

Could they have had more trading him in the conference? Probably - but apparently the Giants were more interested in sending him to football Siberia.
RE: The team's handling of the Beckham situation was a disaster  
Go Terps : 12/8/2019 11:26 pm : link
In comment 14707977 jcn56 said:
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Even if you think they're better off without him, there's no way that you can spin it that signing him to that huge deal then dealing him made any sense.

What they got in return was a huge chunk of dead cap, the 17th overall pick used for an interior defensive lineman who doesn't rush the passer, a third round pick that was squandered and a safety who to this point in his career has had one good season.

Could they have had more trading him in the conference? Probably - but apparently the Giants were more interested in sending him to football Siberia.


We disagreed on Beckham the person and player, but you're absolutely right here. I'd bet money the Giants didn't take the best trade offer because they were at minimum going to send him to the AFC, and preferably to Cleveland or Buffalo.

Just a complete joke.
You're right there - I was wrong, I wanted to keep Odell  
jcn56 : 12/8/2019 11:32 pm : link
I still believe with the right management they might have been able to keep him in check, but on his health alone you can't justify that contract, even if he wasn't being a headcase.

You're quite literally the only one on BBI that nobody can argue with on anything Beckham related, because you nailed that one from start to finish.

Why on Earth  
Joey in VA : 12/9/2019 12:10 am : link
Would anyone even respond to this halfwit? He or She has proven repeatedly to be a clueless fuckstick, why are you arguing with a moron? Granted, I do it constantly here but this..thing is an utter disgrace. Odell sucks balls, Eli made him better and his injuries have robbed him of what he was for 2.5 years. If huygens wants to jerk his tiny dick to his #13 jersey, let him, but he's dead wrong 100% of the time.
RE: RE: The team's handling of the Beckham situation was a disaster  
santacruzom : 12/9/2019 12:45 am : link
In comment 14707989 Go Terps said:
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In comment 14707977 jcn56 said:


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Even if you think they're better off without him, there's no way that you can spin it that signing him to that huge deal then dealing him made any sense.

What they got in return was a huge chunk of dead cap, the 17th overall pick used for an interior defensive lineman who doesn't rush the passer, a third round pick that was squandered and a safety who to this point in his career has had one good season.

Could they have had more trading him in the conference? Probably - but apparently the Giants were more interested in sending him to football Siberia.



We disagreed on Beckham the person and player, but you're absolutely right here. I'd bet money the Giants didn't take the best trade offer because they were at minimum going to send him to the AFC, and preferably to Cleveland or Buffalo.

Just a complete joke.


Are you guys trying to summon DJM? This little exchange is like saying Beetlejuice 3 times fast.
This literally has to be  
montanagiant : 12/9/2019 1:33 am : link
One of the dumbest takes ever posted on BBI
RE: MM_in_NYC  
MM_in_NYC : 12/9/2019 5:14 am : link
In comment 14707806 Eric from BBI said:
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Again, Odell was here in 2017 and 2018.

The guy is a see you next Tuesday.


Not clear what your point was then about paying attention. My point was I am paying attention and I see us winning less games. And being less competitive in them - which is the worst part.
Whew  
blueblood'11 : 12/9/2019 6:58 am : link
OBJ is proving to be an entitled, in his own mind, pain in the ass. The only criticism I have of the Giants is not that they traded him but signing him to that huge extension, then watching our Gettleman laugh as he said well, we didn't sign him juist to trade him. And the beat goes on in the land of the Giants.
the shame was that we even  
mdc1 : 12/9/2019 8:07 am : link
signed him to that f'ing contract. Anybody with a brain needs to rewind the tape on that Panthers game. A sign of an individual that has serious mental issues,
RE: Oldie but goodie  
mfsd : 12/9/2019 8:18 am : link
In comment 14707778 map7711 said:
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Mr. Huygens20, what youve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.


Haha perfect response to this absurd OP
Why is Odell's mama  
Gman11 : 12/9/2019 8:34 am : link
posting on the Giants board?
Huh?  
Rong5611 : 12/9/2019 8:40 am : link
Sorry, he quit on the Giants after being rewarded with a huge contract. He's all about himself. Now, he's quitting on the Browns. What a jerk.

The Giants did the right thing, record be damned. Although, I'd argue it would be worse with OBJ than without him.

Good Riddance.

You're living  
charlito : 12/9/2019 8:48 am : link
In the past open up the present
OBJ  
Archer : 12/9/2019 10:29 am : link
Love him as a player.
I do not think that he has reached his potential and in the right situation he can be the best receiver in football.

Unfortunately he needs to be on a team with veteran leadership. He would thrive in New England.

The Giants and Browns are not good fits for his personality.

If the Giants had retained him, he would likely be forcing a trade as he is in Cleveland. In that case the Giants would not have gotten fair value, or anything remotely close to what they got from the Browns.

It wasn't a mistake to trade him.  
Affirmation : 12/9/2019 10:54 am : link
But it was a mistake to trade him for what we got in return.
RE: May be the worst  
Jesse B : 12/9/2019 11:38 am : link
In comment 14707761 section125 said:
[quote] and stupidest post in recent memory. Not one thing you said was true. [/]


Looks like everything he said is true

1)Giants traded Odell Beckham Jr. because they were hoping to win more games without him then they would with him (hasn't happened)

2) Giants would sell more jerseys with Odell Beckham then they would of Jabrill Peppers (probably true)

3) Beckham Jr would put more seats into the stands then Jabrill Peppers or Dexter Lawrence would



I think all of those are probably absolutely true. If the Giants aren't winning more games without Beckham Jr. then they are probably losing money. As an owner of a team you would probably prefer Beckham and more tickets bought and more money spent vs Peppers and Lawrence if the records are going to be both poor
bwaahahahahah  
GMAN4LIFE : 12/9/2019 11:52 am : link


RE: It wasn't a mistake to trade him.  
EricJ : 12/9/2019 11:55 am : link
In comment 14708471 Affirmation said:
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But it was a mistake to trade him for what we got in return.


I would love to hear what you think we should have received in return. Remember... his injury prone status was already out there and he also hurt his own trade value with the constant antics.
RE: Must have hit a nerve  
Thegratefulhead : 12/9/2019 12:26 pm : link
In comment 14707771 huygens20 said:
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The personal attacks came in fast and furious


Im sure those young fans that go to training camp or the games early are so excited to see Dexter Lawrence
I think you are a good poster. You know enough about BBI to know what the response would be though.

IMO trading OBJ is the best thing DG has done. No personal attacks. I could not disagree with your OP more. I don't want players that put themselves above the team. I think OBJ actions both on the field and off, his interviews and tweets are definitive evidence of him putting himself above the team. Both here and in Cleveland. Failure to concede this is will ignorance IMHO.
RE: I'm  
Gettledogman : 12/9/2019 2:52 pm : link
In comment 14707769 Eric from BBI said:
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not sure how anyone who has been paying attention this year thinks it was a mistake to trade Odell.


While all DGs moves haven't been Aplus -this one is and so is sticking to his evaluation and drafting Dan Jones at QB. We all know he want to draft the LBr and passing on him was a tough call but you cant say that was a mistake and neither was the pick after.
If Peppers had a better, more consistent season this would be a  
SGMen : 12/9/2019 2:59 pm : link
great trade for the Giants. Lets hope with a new coaching staff he returns to health and is in form all 16 games next year.

Odell had to go as he was a distraction. I have no problem with trading him away.
Meanwhile, hes hurt again and has already worn out his....  
Crispino : 12/9/2019 5:02 pm : link
welcome in Cleveland. Doesnt get along with his QB (read doesnt think he gets enough targets) and has said hed prefer to move on from Cleveland after the season. (Per reports today.)

Yeah, I really miss him and Im sure the owners do too.🙄
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