fuming for getting duped into believing that Odell was a net negative and team wrecker.
The Odell trade for both sides has been an utter disaster. How many wins has Jabril peppers netted this team? Dexter Lawrence after a quick start has completely become invisible for 8 straight weeks.
How many jerseys and tickets do you guys think Odell puts into the stands? Peppers ? Lawrence?
The proof is in the win loss record. The loss of fan enthusiasm. The loss of young fans.
It’s not a joke.
Trading Odell has been a disaster and those that perpetrated it under the guise of
“Well, we’ll be a better team because we won’t have to force the ball to him. Look at 4 weeks of stats !!!!”
Need to be fired. Trading Odell has cost this franchise and fan base a generation worth of new fans, legacy, revenue, and wins.
I look forward to the next hog mollie DT drafted
Not sure that I agree with you. He has had such a long string of stupid posts over the past few weeks that this one may not even be the worst.
What happens when you have a bad day at work?
I’m sure those young fans that go to training camp or the games early are so excited to see dexter Lawrence
Try paying attention to fan attendance
What happens when you have a bad day at work?
Since you brought up work—
What do you think a rational ceo would do if one of his managers consistently made negative expectation decisions that has cost the company money 2 straight years?
Which one could it be?
3-13 with Odell
3-13 without Odell
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Yay!
What happens when you have a bad day at work?
Since you brought up work—
What do you think a rational ceo would do if one of his managers consistently made negative expectation decisions that has cost the company money 2 straight years?
Public hanging.
I’m sure those young fans that go to training camp or the games early are so excited to see dexter Lawrence
Ah... this is really all about your Boomer vendetta...every post same agenda we get it already
Now he is forcing himself out of Cleveland.
Today he didn't even huddle up with the offense.
2019 stats
57 catches 805 yards 14.1 ypc 2tds
Beckham not huddling with the team - ( New Window )
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not sure how anyone who has been paying attention this year thinks it was a mistake to trade Odell.
Try paying attention to fan attendance
Wasn't Odell here in 2017 and 2018?
Beckham is a declining player and Lawrence alone is worth more than Beckham at this point. Peppers and Ximenes are bonuses.
I mean, we have 2 wins. I've sure paid attention to that.
Up until last year, I was a huge fan of OBJ. I didn't love all his antics, but wrote most of them off as just him being a bit off. But, the last year or two he went overboard. At the same time he went from being the most dynamic offensive player I've ever seen to a second tier WR.
Amazingly talented, enormous headache.
They unloaded his contract, and got two picks back in return.
Also, I think it is very fair to question his durability at this point. He has played in all 16 games only once in his career, and even though he’s on track to play in 16 this year, he’s been dealing with a variety of injuries.
The guy is a see you next Tuesday.
The OP’s POV is ridiculous, to say the least.
I’m sure those young fans that go to training camp or the games early are so excited to see dexter Lawrence
You make zero sense and then compound that by attacking those that point out your idiocy.. Congrats, you would gave made a great Captain for the Titanic!
I’m sure those young fans that go to training camp or the games early are so excited to see dexter Lawrence
Accurately calling your post stupid is not a personal attack per se. The post is clearly stupid.
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and stupidest post in recent memory. Not one thing you said was true.
Not sure that I agree with you. He has had such a long string of stupid posts over the past few weeks that this one may not even be the worst.
LOL. For real!
Just excruciatingly awful football opinions thrown around like shit in a monkey cage.
The trade was done just at the right moment, and thank god for that - the value of the signing itself is what the issue is.
I can see that signing in two different lights -
one is that by signing Odell, the Giants created enough value to get essentially two number 1 picks+, Peppers and #17 and Cleveland's 3
the other is what could they have gotten for him if there was no long term contract in place, would it have been as lucrative.
Just excruciatingly awful football opinions thrown around like shit in a monkey cage.
I miss the giants.com board as awful as it was lol
He is nowhere near the player he was a couple of years ago.
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not sure how anyone who has been paying attention this year thinks it was a mistake to trade Odell.
Try paying attention to fan attendance
Right... because the place would be packed if OBJ was on the team despite having just 3 wins.
I hope you are not working in the education system.
What they got in return was a huge chunk of dead cap, the 17th overall pick used for an interior defensive lineman who doesn't rush the passer, a third round pick that was squandered and a safety who to this point in his career has had one good season.
Could they have had more trading him in the conference? Probably - but apparently the Giants were more interested in sending him to football Siberia.
What they got in return was a huge chunk of dead cap, the 17th overall pick used for an interior defensive lineman who doesn't rush the passer, a third round pick that was squandered and a safety who to this point in his career has had one good season.
Could they have had more trading him in the conference? Probably - but apparently the Giants were more interested in sending him to football Siberia.
We disagreed on Beckham the person and player, but you're absolutely right here. I'd bet money the Giants didn't take the best trade offer because they were at minimum going to send him to the AFC, and preferably to Cleveland or Buffalo.
Just a complete joke.
You're quite literally the only one on BBI that nobody can argue with on anything Beckham related, because you nailed that one from start to finish.
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Even if you think they're better off without him, there's no way that you can spin it that signing him to that huge deal then dealing him made any sense.
What they got in return was a huge chunk of dead cap, the 17th overall pick used for an interior defensive lineman who doesn't rush the passer, a third round pick that was squandered and a safety who to this point in his career has had one good season.
Could they have had more trading him in the conference? Probably - but apparently the Giants were more interested in sending him to football Siberia.
We disagreed on Beckham the person and player, but you're absolutely right here. I'd bet money the Giants didn't take the best trade offer because they were at minimum going to send him to the AFC, and preferably to Cleveland or Buffalo.
Just a complete joke.
Are you guys trying to summon DJM? This little exchange is like saying Beetlejuice 3 times fast.
The guy is a see you next Tuesday.
Not clear what your point was then about paying attention. My point was I am paying attention and I see us winning less games. And being less competitive in them - which is the worst part.
Haha perfect response to this absurd OP
The Giants did the right thing, record be damned. Although, I'd argue it would be worse with OBJ than without him.
Good Riddance.
I do not think that he has reached his potential and in the right situation he can be the best receiver in football.
Unfortunately he needs to be on a team with veteran leadership. He would thrive in New England.
The Giants and Browns are not good fits for his personality.
If the Giants had retained him, he would likely be forcing a trade as he is in Cleveland. In that case the Giants would not have gotten fair value, or anything remotely close to what they got from the Browns.
[quote] and stupidest post in recent memory. Not one thing you said was true. [/]
Looks like everything he said is true
1)Giants traded Odell Beckham Jr. because they were hoping to win more games without him then they would with him (hasn't happened)
2) Giants would sell more jerseys with Odell Beckham then they would of Jabrill Peppers (probably true)
3) Beckham Jr would put more seats into the stands then Jabrill Peppers or Dexter Lawrence would
I think all of those are probably absolutely true. If the Giants aren't winning more games without Beckham Jr. then they are probably losing money. As an owner of a team you would probably prefer Beckham and more tickets bought and more money spent vs Peppers and Lawrence if the records are going to be both poor
I would love to hear what you think we should have received in return. Remember... his injury prone status was already out there and he also hurt his own trade value with the constant antics.
I’m sure those young fans that go to training camp or the games early are so excited to see Dexter Lawrence
IMO trading OBJ is the best thing DG has done. No personal attacks. I could not disagree with your OP more. I don't want players that put themselves above the team. I think OBJ actions both on the field and off, his interviews and tweets are definitive evidence of him putting himself above the team. Both here and in Cleveland. Failure to concede this is will ignorance IMHO.
While all DGs moves haven't been Aplus -this one is and so is sticking to his evaluation and drafting Dan Jones at QB. We all know he want to draft the LBr and passing on him was a tough call but you cant say that was a mistake and neither was the pick after.
Odell had to go as he was a distraction. I have no problem with trading him away.
Yeah, I really miss him and I’m sure the owners do too.🙄