I think of all moves if his contract demands are unreasonable this may be the best one. If he signs elsewhere we would be essentially trading a 3rd and 5th for a 2nd. That is a net win. Otherwise we get him for an additional year at a lower cost than a franchise tag and see what he does under a new HC and DC.
The transition tag only guarantees that the giants get a chance to match.
No compensation if he goes elsewhere
The transition tag is like the franchise tag except, if a team signs a franchise tagged player they give up two 1st round draft picks. If a team signs a transition tagged player the original team can match the contract but no draft picks change hands
I think there are only two tagging options for Williams, the Franchise tag or the one just below that, the "transition tag" I think it's called.
The transition tag only guarantees that the giants get a chance to match.
No compensation if he goes elsewhere
Hmmmm...that puts us in a tougher situation...the franchise tag gives him a big hit against this years cap while a longer term contract is a bigger risk but can be set up with a small first year cap hit. He's played more or less like a Snacks Harrison stabilizing force on our DL. That definitely has value.
Transition tag allows for the player to negotiate on the open market and other teams to sign the player to an offer sheet. We would then have the option to match the offer sheet or not. NO immediate compensation is given if we do not match the offer. We would be eligible for a compensation pick the following year so long as the net losses exceed the net gains.
The differing costs won't be revealed until the start of the league year, but we can use the amounts assigned to the respective tags for 2019
Exclusive Franchise Tag: player gets offer of 1 yr deal greater than average of top 5 salaries at his position for the current year or 120% of his prior salary, whichever is greater. Exclusive players cannot negotiate with other teams.
Non-exclusive Franchise Tag: player gets offer of 1 yr deal greater than average of top 5 cap hits at his position for the previous 5 seasons or 120% of his prior salary, whichever is greater. Non-exclusive players can negotiate with other teams, but the team has a right to match the terms of any offer. If the team does not match the offer, they receive 2 first round picks as compensation.
Transition: player gets offer greater than the average salary of the top 10 players at his position or a 20% increase. Team gets 7 days to match any offer sheet signed
RFA tenders: Teams make a 1 yr offer to pending FAs at a designated level (1st round, 2nd round or based on their original draft position). If another team offers the RFA a contract, the original team has 5 days to match or let the player walk in exchange for the specified compensation.
Transition tag allows for the player to negotiate on the open market and other teams to sign the player to an offer sheet. We would then have the option to match the offer sheet or not. NO immediate compensation is given if we do not match the offer. We would be eligible for a compensation pick the following year so long as the net losses exceed the net gains.
The differing costs won't be revealed until the start of the league year, but we can use the amounts assigned to the respective tags for 2019
I assume LW is considered a DE, but has that been confirmed anywhere? No chance he's (franchise) tagged as a DE since it would cost ~$17.5M, but if the Giants can designate him a DT it might make sense. Though I still hold out hope they can lock him up for 5 yrs/$65M or so. Though two comparable players are Grady Jarrett (4 yrs/$68M) and Kawann Short (5 yrs $80.5M, but signed in 2017).
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There is no RFA tenders. The options are: Exclusive Franchise Tag, Non-exclusive Franchise Tag, and Transition Tag. Differing levels of compensation afforded to the player and corresponding cap hits to the organization.
Transition tag allows for the player to negotiate on the open market and other teams to sign the player to an offer sheet. We would then have the option to match the offer sheet or not. NO immediate compensation is given if we do not match the offer. We would be eligible for a compensation pick the following year so long as the net losses exceed the net gains.
The differing costs won't be revealed until the start of the league year, but we can use the amounts assigned to the respective tags for 2019
I assume LW is considered a DE, but has that been confirmed anywhere? No chance he's (franchise) tagged as a DE since it would cost ~$17.5M, but if the Giants can designate him a DT it might make sense. Though I still hold out hope they can lock him up for 5 yrs/$65M or so. Though two comparable players are Grady Jarrett (4 yrs/$68M) and Kawann Short (5 yrs $80.5M, but signed in 2017).
From the NJ.com article this morning:
So we could franchise him as a DT, not a DE.
It's going to be $17M because it's one of two criteria a) average of the top 5 salaries at the position or b) 120% of the player's current total comp, whichever is >.
It looks like LW's 2019 comp is $14.2M. So 120% of that is $17M.
Like a “Give me a do-over because my GM fell down and hit his head on the ground” Tag...
All the TT does is allow you to match an offer if the player receives one.
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There is no RFA tenders. The options are: Exclusive Franchise Tag, Non-exclusive Franchise Tag, and Transition Tag. Differing levels of compensation afforded to the player and corresponding cap hits to the organization.
Transition tag allows for the player to negotiate on the open market and other teams to sign the player to an offer sheet. We would then have the option to match the offer sheet or not. NO immediate compensation is given if we do not match the offer. We would be eligible for a compensation pick the following year so long as the net losses exceed the net gains.
The differing costs won't be revealed until the start of the league year, but we can use the amounts assigned to the respective tags for 2019
I assume LW is considered a DE, but has that been confirmed anywhere? No chance he's (franchise) tagged as a DE since it would cost ~$17.5M, but if the Giants can designate him a DT it might make sense. Though I still hold out hope they can lock him up for 5 yrs/$65M or so. Though two comparable players are Grady Jarrett (4 yrs/$68M) and Kawann Short (5 yrs $80.5M, but signed in 2017).
From the NJ.com article this morning:
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“I definitely think I’m a top-tier interior defensive lineman, in that top percentage of the d-linemen. I wouldn’t say Aaron Donald [level]. But I would definitely put myself up there with a lot of those other top guys.”
So we could franchise him as a DT, not a DE.
So because he called himself an interior DL, he'll be tagged as a DT? Irrelevant that the NFL determined he was a DE a year ago for his 5th year option?
His 2019 salary ensures that he's getting at least $17M on a tag regardless of which position though, so it doesn't really matter that much. Does it change your view at all knowing that?
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Not as big as DE I would imagine.
It's going to be $17M because it's one of two criteria a) average of the top 5 salaries at the position or b) 120% of the player's current total comp, whichever is >.
It looks like LW's 2019 comp is $14.2M. So 120% of that is $17M.
Britt's going to keep ignoring that because he has decided that LW's quote on NJ.com is the only factor that will be considered in the tag calculus.
I doubt it, but I was wondering this the other day.
I doubt it, but I was wondering this the other day.
It's an interesting question. I suspect it would count as re-signing him since that's one of the benefits that the trade itself essentially purchased for the Giants, but that's purely an assumption on my part.