Since we have a variety of things being discussed in the Mets and Yankees thread and it's starting to get muddied, might as well get an encompassing Winter Meetings Thread going and the usual spin off threads can happen.
A bit of news coming out so far (which we know)
- Yankees offer to Cole has been leaked and no one else seems to be in on him as of yet.
- Didi might be heading to the Phillies on a multiyear deal
- Steve Pearce has "unofficially retired"
Because it's out in San Diego, news will probably come in later in the day, and trades tend to get announced later in the night as the GMs get a little more drunk ;)
They're a joke.
He's (or his people) have been candid, he's going to the highest bidder.
no pretense, no bullshit. I can respect that.
This is one time where I side with the "Big Stein never would have stood for this" people. GS3 would have paid any amount of fines until the end of time to keep that shit off of their jerseys.
Fucking Nike. Couldn't just leave it on the sleeve, nooooooo......
They're a joke.
So, I presume you’re ready to set aside your hate for Cole, if he does in fact join the Death Star
This is one time where I side with the "Big Stein never would have stood for this" people. GS3 would have paid any amount of fines until the end of time to keep that shit off of their jerseys.
Fucking Nike. Couldn't just leave it on the sleeve, nooooooo......
Desecration of a national monument. Big George would be pissed. All kidding aside, really is disgusting to look at.
I believe it was in response to MLB putting Spiderman logos on the bases or something to promote the movie.
Actually, I think it’s 98% money.
Don’t think analytics play any role, especially since all teams use them
And winning is a double edged sword with Yankees because more than any other team they are expected to win and when they don’t it gets represented as failure.
I don't think so as there are already concerns about Bumgarner's diminishing velocity. He was better last season but I would be very hesitant to hand him a contract longer than 2-3 years. He is an excellent post season performer though.
The Braves were rumored to be targeting Bumgarner but I doubt they will make a serious offer after adding Hamels.
FAR more mileage on his arm, plus Bumgarner's last 3 seasons don't show much in the way of expected improvement. I also doubt a team would be particularly happy if he continued with the same performance for another 3+ years at big money. I'm no Zack Wheeler fan, but I think a team could at least convince themselves that he has room to grow.
I personally wouldn't pay him near as much as I'd pay Wheeler. Tons and tons of mileage, and it's shown up already in lost velocity. He's given up tons of hard contact the past 2 seasons.
He'll always have the bulldog mentality, which is worth something. But I'm not an eager buyer of that stock right now.
Just my opinion.
But I fell he will try something stupid to get rid of Lowrie (who could be a factor this year and lose Smith/Davis)
Damn I miss Ari Gold... LloYDDDDDDDDDDD!!!
Who gets Rendon now?
Hopefully this speeds Cole to NYY.
So, 7/250 for Cole?
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7/$220 (though presumably a healthy chunk deferred).
7/245 according to Passan
Who gets Rendon now?
Hopefully this speeds Cole to NYY.
So, 7/250 for Cole?
Actually, I take that back.
8/300? I forgot Cole is two years younger.
Jon Morosi
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Source: Gerrit Cole is increasingly likely to sign during this week’s winter meetings. His market is developing quickly, the source said, with the Strasburg signing giving further clarity. @MLBNetwork @MLB
Imagine if deGrom held out and got to the open market? Best guess to what he would get?
Imagine if deGrom held out and got to the open market? Best guess to what he would get?
Mets got lucky there, Degrom is underpaid. He would at least get Strasburgs deal. If I had to guess, his number would right below whatever Cole gets
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7/$220 (though presumably a healthy chunk deferred).
Who gets Rendon now?
Hopefully this speeds Cole to NYY.
Makes the degrom deal look like an absolute steal.
@Joelsherman1
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Source: Brian Cashman was to arrive Monday at the Winter Meetigs and the #Yankees plan was to submit a formal bid today on Gerrit Cole.
Most says it’s either the Yankees or Angels atm
@Joelsherman1
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Source: Brian Cashman was to arrive Monday at the Winter Meetigs and the #Yankees plan was to submit a formal bid today on Gerrit Cole.
Lmfao at Joel. You don’t need a source for that, we’ve known that since last week
So the competition for Cole will probably be the Angels.
So the competition for Cole will probably be the Angels.
It’s been real quiet about the Angels, as to what their money limit is and how Cole feels about them. All we hear is that they’re close to home
So the competition for Cole will probably be the Angels.
Their owner said last week(?) they can probably only keep one of Stras/Rendon. That's why I'm not surprised one of these deals happened quickly.
Right now i think there would be a market for stanton especially if the yankees eat a little bit of that contract, but in a few years that contract is going to be untradable and they are going to need payroll flexibility.
Right now i think there would be a market for stanton especially if the yankees eat a little bit of that contract, but in a few years that contract is going to be untradable and they are going to need payroll flexibility.
There is no way Stanton gets traded unless the Yanks are willing to eat a huge portion of that salary. You dont think teams around the league are noticing what is going on with Stanton?
Get it done Cashman.
Get it done Cashman.
Angels suck. I don't think sunny weather and familiarity is enough for Cole to go there. Yankees travel well but seeing an Angels home game is straight-up depressing when I've attended.
Additionally, Sherman says they will make the formal offer tonight and Jack Curry said they will make a “very, very competitive offer”.
I doubt we’re getting outbid for him, we’re the New York Yankees