Ben Volin of the Boston Globe said an NFL insider thinks Gettleman will be out as GM. Also NFL sources think Shurmur will be fired also.
One insider predicted that at least five or six GM-type jobs will open up, after only two changes last year (Raiders, Jets). Washington’s Bruce Allen, the Giants’ Dave Gettleman, Jacksonville’s Caldwell, Denver’s Elway, and Atlanta’s Thomas Dimitroff are in trouble, with Detroit’s Quinn and the Rams’ Les Snead as long shots.
There was unanimous consent that the following head coaching jobs will come open in addition to Washington and Carolina: Atlanta, Dallas, Jacksonville, and the Giants. Dan Quinn’s Falcons have been a massive disappointment; the Giants have regressed under Pat Shurmur; Doug Marrone, GM Dave Caldwell, and executive vice president Tom Coughlin are in big trouble in Jacksonville; and nobody’s seat is hotter than Cowboys coach Jason Garrett. |
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In comment 14709100 BillKo said:
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...followed 6-10 with a horrendous 4-12 year.
Takes time.
Young went
6-10
4-12
9-7
4-5 (strike)
3-12-1.
Gettleman gets another year, with a competent coach. Yeah, he picked Shurmur. Now he gets to pick another..........
George Young operated in a completely different era, prior to free agency, 40 years ago. So unsurprisingly, the expectations for the two are very different.
So? Look at his record.....that's pretty damning but everyone knows he was a good personnel guy.
His five year rebuilding plan would be shipped right out of BBI today.
I'm curious...so free agency is supposed to make you instantly competitive?
It doesn't take 5 years anymore, that's the point. It took GY longer because that was the nature of a rebuild back then. But that's not the case anymore, unless of course you fuck up nearly every free agent signing and waste your first year thinking your rebuilding team is really a contender.
It's not apples to apples to compare GY to DG. The only similarity they have is that they both seem befuddled by free agency. But it was only a new concept to one of them.
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This is a losing, poorly run organization. Doesn't compute to expect the right move from them.
Right, because bad teams never turn things around.
And we should assume that will happen here...why?
"Hope" is not a synonym for "plan".
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In comment 14709108 Go Terps said:
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This is a losing, poorly run organization. Doesn't compute to expect the right move from them.
Right, because bad teams never turn things around.
And we should assume that will happen here...why?
"Hope" is not a synonym for "plan".
It is for DJM, but he also admitted that he rarely changes his underwear, so who really knows?
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...followed 6-10 with a horrendous 4-12 year.
Takes time.
Young went
6-10
4-12
9-7
4-5 (strike)
3-12-1.
Gettleman gets another year, with a competent coach. Yeah, he picked Shurmur. Now he gets to pick another..........
George Young operated in a completely different era, prior to free agency, 40 years ago. So unsurprisingly, the expectations for the two are very different.
And, other than drafting Phil Simms, the hypothetical 70s BBI would have been in "wait and see" mode. Young also came in with more pelts on the wall than Gettleman.
Patience for patience's sake doesn't make one a more enlightened fan. There is no evident progress here.
You think this is a playoff team in disguise that's just held back by coaching? They've really given you no reason to think that. This is yet again one of the worse defenses in franchise history and an OL that's as bad as the last 5 years.
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positions?
BBI, hopefully.
Well played, sir.
Also keep in mind, a new GM is gonna want to get rid of a lot of the young guys Gettleman brought in. Possibly Lawrence, BAKER, etc. and the scary part is Jones. Maybe the new GM doesnt like him OR maybe Mara tries to force him on a GM which costs us a top candidate who's not a fan of him.
We are stuck in a very very tangled web right now. Also my ideal coach (if Tomlin doesnt hit the market which theres no way he does) would be Rivera but, do we get him without Gettleman? Who knows
Throwing in his name leads me to totally discount this report.
Takes time.
Young went
6-10
4-12
9-7
4-5 (strike)
3-12-1.
Gettleman gets another year, with a competent coach. Yeah, he picked Shurmur. Now he gets to pick another..........
Then after new hc, gettlemen will be gone a yr or two
The new gm, not his hc, will look to a new hc, and the malfunctioned cycle continues...weeeeeee!
So making Solder the highest paid OL in the NFL wasn't a mistake?
Giving Patrick Omameh a $15M contract with 40% of it guaranteed wasn't a mistake?
Extending OBJ to trade him a year later while eating $16M in dead money wasn't a mistake?
I'm not even going to get into the ongoing LW trade argument here, or whether keeping Eli's salary was the right move, or the constant debate on taking a RB at #2 overall as the very first move of a teardown rebuild.
DG's ONLY big mistake was hiring PS? That might be the most homerish post all year.
You must be smoking some goooooooood shit.
Almost wish Tomlin parts ways in Pitt but that’s a pipe dream I know
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He’ll get a mulligan, sign Rivera to a long term deal and together they’ll get us back to the playoffs next year.
So making Solder the highest paid OL in the NFL wasn't a mistake?
Giving Patrick Omameh a $15M contract with 40% of it guaranteed wasn't a mistake?
Extending OBJ to trade him a year later while eating $16M in dead money wasn't a mistake?
I'm not even going to get into the ongoing LW trade argument here, or whether keeping Eli's salary was the right move, or the constant debate on taking a RB at #2 overall as the very first move of a teardown rebuild.
DG's ONLY big mistake was hiring PS? That might be the most homerish post all year.
Odell was not a mistake.
What would you rather have? #17 overall pick + Jabrill Peppers + a 3rd round lick
Or
16m extra cap room in a completely LOST season....
Keep in mind if you go out and USE that 16m, you're lowering your compensatory pick that you would theoretically get for Beckham. You maybe end up with a 3rd or 4th round comp pick.
I would not be shocked if Shurmur was fired and Rivera brought in with only a handful of coaching changes. Keep the offensive coordinator and system in place? I don't know man.
But would anyone be shocked if the Giants fired DG and all the coaches the day after the season ends and already has candidates in place?
We can cut the over-paid like Solder, Ellison, Jenkins, Bethea and Martin to start. Open even more cap money. But I pray we don't spend the BIG MONEY on top free agents. I truly believe you get one of these guys as a "final piece" but not to build the base of your team.
DG is out if we finish with the #1 or #2 pick in the draft. LOL
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In comment 14709231 Spider56 said:
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He’ll get a mulligan, sign Rivera to a long term deal and together they’ll get us back to the playoffs next year.
So making Solder the highest paid OL in the NFL wasn't a mistake?
Giving Patrick Omameh a $15M contract with 40% of it guaranteed wasn't a mistake?
Extending OBJ to trade him a year later while eating $16M in dead money wasn't a mistake?
I'm not even going to get into the ongoing LW trade argument here, or whether keeping Eli's salary was the right move, or the constant debate on taking a RB at #2 overall as the very first move of a teardown rebuild.
DG's ONLY big mistake was hiring PS? That might be the most homerish post all year.
Odell was not a mistake.
What would you rather have? #17 overall pick + Jabrill Peppers + a 3rd round lick
Or
16m extra cap room in a completely LOST season....
Keep in mind if you go out and USE that 16m, you're lowering your compensatory pick that you would theoretically get for Beckham. You maybe end up with a 3rd or 4th round comp pick.
They could have tagged and traded him, for example. Maybe they get a lower secondary pick than the 3rd rounder, but they’re still better off.
It’s not even the dead money (although Gettleman’s wanton disregard for dead money is infuriating), it’s the inconsistent about-face-style management that Gettleman has displayed, with this signing and subsequent trade chief among the examples.