Nick Caserio to be freed from NE; Giants possible suitor

He’s held the job since 2008 and has worked for Belichick since 2001.

Interesting development.

Chris Mara :/

Per his wikipedia:

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As coach: Saginaw Valley State (1999–2000) Graduate assistant Central Michigan (2001) Graduate assistant New England Patriots (2002) Offensive coaching assistant New England Patriots (2007) Wide receivers coach As executive: New England Patriots (2001) Personnel assistant New England Patriots (2003) Area scout New England Patriots (2004–2006) Director of pro personnel New England Patriots (2008–present) Director of player personnel

Very interesting that he served as NE's director of pro personnel '04-'06, then moved to WR coach in '07, then back to director of player personnel in '08.

Especially interesting is that he "continued to assist the coaching staff from the press box during games along with football research director Ernie Adams."

This is a guy that knows where the bodies are buried with how the Pats do things.
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in college.

Baseless speculation, but I wonder if they're hoping to come to a team as a package.

Lynch and Shanahan pulled that in San Fran and have had a lot of success. FO and Coaches in lock step I'm sure is something Caserio has come to value in his time with NE.

In comment 14709234 JB_in_DC said:

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in college. Baseless speculation, but I wonder if they're hoping to come to a team as a package. Lynch and Shanahan pulled that in San Fran and have had a lot of success. FO and Coaches in lock step I'm sure is something Caserio has come to value in his time with NE.

Please and thank you.

In comment 14709234 JB_in_DC said:

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in college. Baseless speculation, but I wonder if they're hoping to come to a team as a package. Lynch and Shanahan pulled that in San Fran and have had a lot of success. FO and Coaches in lock step I'm sure is something Caserio has come to value in his time with NE.

I was thinking the same thing. A couple thoughts:

1. Mike Lombardi recently said John Mara fundamentally wants to hire Belichick to implement the Patriot program here, and that he should go after McDaniels. The fly in the ointment is Gettleman...McDaniels already turned the Giants down because he wasn't going to take the job with Gettleman in full GM power.

2. We know the Giants and Steelers ownership are close, and that the Steelers' long term success may help inform how Mara foresees turning this around. The Steelers have enjoyed incredible stability at GM and head coach, hiring young guys and giving them a lot of rope. Both Caserio and McDaniels are 43 years old.

It's all baseless speculation, but it beats talking about the current football team.

I believe NE blocked a team just last offseason from interviewing him. If he can be had the Giants would be very wise to go for him. I am hoping we see Gettleman "step down" as GM this offseason.

I am not a fan of McDaniels though.

Steelers GM Kevin Colbert's contract runs through the 2020 NFL draft and then he is a FA barring a new deal.

not suitor #3, that guy is a nerd.

Then comes back with Cameroon wants out.

Very interesting!

Caserio wants out

In comment 14709257 Jay on the Island said:

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Steelers GM Kevin Colbert's contract runs through the 2020 NFL draft and then he is a FA barring a new deal.

Colbert's on a year-to-year contract with Pittsburgh because he apparently wants to retire soon. This was before all of the Carolina talk. Money talks so we will see what he ends up doing.

Don't want him. Dont give me McDaniels. What coordinator has succeeded as a HC that was part of Belicheks coaching tree? And McDaniels didnt exactly light it up his first go around in Denver.

Now if Caserio comes with Bill that's a different story. He gets a guy in Jones that may be able to run his system.

In comment 14709243 Go Terps said:

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In comment 14709234 JB_in_DC said: Quote: in college. Baseless speculation, but I wonder if they're hoping to come to a team as a package. Lynch and Shanahan pulled that in San Fran and have had a lot of success. FO and Coaches in lock step I'm sure is something Caserio has come to value in his time with NE. I was thinking the same thing. A couple thoughts: 1. Mike Lombardi recently said John Mara fundamentally wants to hire Belichick to implement the Patriot program here, and that he should go after McDaniels. The fly in the ointment is Gettleman...McDaniels already turned the Giants down because he wasn't going to take the job with Gettleman in full GM power. 2. We know the Giants and Steelers ownership are close, and that the Steelers' long term success may help inform how Mara foresees turning this around. The Steelers have enjoyed incredible stability at GM and head coach, hiring young guys and giving them a lot of rope. Both Caserio and McDaniels are 43 years old. It's all baseless speculation, but it beats talking about the current football team.

Just a question. When and where did Lombardi say that? I’d like to go read the article or listen to the podcast. Thanks!

Lombardi has referenced multiple times the desire to implement the Patriot program with the Giants. This could be the opportunity.

Terps referenced the Steelers & I’ll reference the Niners. Both Shanahan & Lynch are young and seeing their vision through. I could see something similar with McDaniels & Caserio.

He refers to McDaniels spurning the Giants in his 12/6 "From the GM's Eye" article in The Athletic. I don't have the podcast dates for you; he's said it at least 3 times the last couple months.

In comment 14709310 Go Terps said:

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He refers to McDaniels spurning the Giants in his 12/6 "From the GM's Eye" article in The Athletic. I don't have the podcast dates for you; he's said it at least 3 times the last couple months.

Thanks. Looks like I need a subscription to The Athletic for Christmas. I don’t always agree with Lombardi but I think he provides an informed opinion.

In comment 14709319 Emil said:

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In comment 14709310 Go Terps said: Quote: He refers to McDaniels spurning the Giants in his 12/6 "From the GM's Eye" article in The Athletic. I don't have the podcast dates for you; he's said it at least 3 times the last couple months. Thanks. Looks like I need a subscription to The Athletic for Christmas. I don’t always agree with Lombardi but I think he provides an informed opinion.

It's worth the money. The soccer and hockey coverage are really good, too.

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In comment 14709329 jeff57 said:

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it's quite possible that this is already in the works.

And reports from earlier this year had him joining the Texans until NE put the kibosh on it. Texans never filled the GM position. Fun to speculate, but the timing and mutual Texans interest don’t make this likely IMHO. Of course, we could cure the timing issue by trading draft picks. ;)

personnel-wise is due to Caserio. It doesn't mean he's a bad executive, but let's face it, Belichick runs that team. The team is molded and crafted in his image. It could be that Caserio was simply along for the ride and was more of a back office guy than anything.

Look what happened to Scott Pioli.




Either way, I'm the future GM of the Giants :)

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There is certainly a possibility of Caserio and McDaniels teaming up — the Panthers and Giants could be good options for that — but one source proffered that Caserio might pair up with Bills offensive coordinator Brian Daboll, the former Patriots assistant who is having an excellent season and is expected to be one of the top head coaching candidates this year.

In comment 14709223 FStubbs said:

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Chris Mara :/

Chris Mara is not the director of player personnel.

to know what Mara thinks the "Patriots Program" is...

GM Caserio and HC McDaniels

right now is Will McClay of the Cowboys. The more I hear and read about this guy the more I am convinced that he is the backbone of their player evaluations. And the Cowboys have been absolutely brilliant at drafting with him in the mix.

I fear the Caserio may be another player in the Belichick world that is better with BB than without...

I don’t even need Super Bowl talk or legendary moments as much as we just need real football again.

I don’t know who’s right or wrong anymore and I don’t care. Wtf do I know I just argue on BBI and the team sucks. Please fix this.

Tandem Patriot guys have had SOOOO much successful seasons.

McDaniels doesn’t inspire me one bit

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In comment 14709223 FStubbs said: Quote: Chris Mara :/ Chris Mara is not the director of player personnel.

Chris Mara is listed as Senior Vice President, Player Personnel

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In comment 14709223 FStubbs said: Quote: Chris Mara :/ Chris Mara is not the director of player personnel.

His actual title is VP of Player Evaluation.....and that may make him even more dangerous.

In comment 14709402 McNally's_Nuts said:

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Tandem Patriot guys have had SOOOO much successful seasons. McDaniels doesn’t inspire me one bit

Mike Vrabel is doing a nice job in Tennessee. And people like to knock Bill O'Brien but he's had 1 losing season in 6 - the year Watson tore up his knee as a rookie. He went 9-7 three years in a row with Ryan Fitzpatrick, Bobby Hoyer, and Brock Osweiler at QB.

In comment 14709369 djm said:

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I don’t even need Super Bowl talk or legendary moments as much as we just need real football again. I don’t know who’s right or wrong anymore and I don’t care. Wtf do I know I just argue on BBI and the team sucks. Please fix this.

Shit this is brilliant. 100%

In comment 14709408 Named Later said:

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His actual title is VP of Player Evaluation.....and that may make him even more dangerous.

Well played...that made me laugh.

Christ, what an organization...

In comment 14709429 Go Terps said:

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In comment 14709402 McNally's_Nuts said: Quote: Tandem Patriot guys have had SOOOO much successful seasons. McDaniels doesn’t inspire me one bit Mike Vrabel is doing a nice job in Tennessee. And people like to knock Bill O'Brien but he's had 1 losing season in 6 - the year Watson tore up his knee as a rookie. He went 9-7 three years in a row with Ryan Fitzpatrick, Bobby Hoyer, and Brock Osweiler at QB.

I’d add that despite their bad record, Brian Flores has kept a Miami team devoid of talent playing hard, and they’ve shown improvement as the season has progressed.

In comment 14709369 djm said:

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I don’t even need Super Bowl talk or legendary moments as much as we just need real football again. I don’t know who’s right or wrong anymore and I don’t care. Wtf do I know I just argue on BBI and the team sucks. Please fix this.

Yup.