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Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/9/2019 11:35 pm
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RE: You people talking about  
FStubbs : 12/9/2019 11:55 pm : link
In comment 14711253 Geomon said:
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WHAT THE FUCK IS CHASE YOUNG GOING TO DO?

Huh? With this coaching staff, what the fuck is he going to do? He'll just be another high draft pick that we ruin on this worse than fucking putrid defense.


Chase or not, if we return the same regime we're going 0-16 next year.
RE: RE: This is a deflating loss  
St. Jimmy : 12/9/2019 11:55 pm : link
In comment 14711305 5BowlsSoon said:
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I donít see how they come back Sunday on short rest given itís almost Tuesday already and playing a tough emotionally drive game and lose it as they did and beat the Dolphins.

Really horrific second half by Shurmur and Shula. As bad as Eagles were in first, Giants showed them equals on second half.



Dolphins lost an emotion gut wrenching game in NY too yesterday.
Giants are due for some Fitzmagic.
Losers lose  
Go Terps : 12/9/2019 11:55 pm : link
And the offense died at halftime the moment Schwartz adjusted. Losing team. Losing culture.

2-11.
Actually think the eagles are worse than the dolphins right now  
micky : 12/9/2019 11:55 pm : link
And let a 14 pt lead go to them.

A lot has to change this offseason
RE: RE: You people talking about  
beatrixkiddo : 12/9/2019 11:56 pm : link
In comment 14711345 FStubbs said:
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In comment 14711253 Geomon said:


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WHAT THE FUCK IS CHASE YOUNG GOING TO DO?

Huh? With this coaching staff, what the fuck is he going to do? He'll just be another high draft pick that we ruin on this worse than fucking putrid defense.



Chase or not, if we return the same regime we're going 0-16 next year.


Chase 2020
4 Sunshine in 2021

Keep the regime. Haha
Can  
AcidTest : 12/9/2019 11:56 pm : link
we please stop talking about using Solder at RT? Just eat the cap hit and cut him, Remmers, and Halapio.

What does it say about our offense that it couldn't move the ball at all simply because the Eagles finally took away a fifth round rookie WR?
Schurmured again  
Paulie Walnuts : 12/9/2019 11:56 pm : link
... He;s like Artie in Casino

he sunk the whole world
RE: Holy christ  
santacruzom : 12/9/2019 11:57 pm : link
In comment 14711175 Since1976 said:
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Iíve not been this frustrated with this organization since the ďhe who shall not be namedĒ years. This team has zero heart, zero self respect and zero balls.


Right? Remember when Gettleman said "No guts, no glory kid?" in response to some question during the offseason. I said he was merely taking inventory instead of employing a tough guy cliche. I was right.
Shurmur  
LeftHook : 12/9/2019 11:58 pm : link
Clueless at the podium !
Serious question  
beatrixkiddo : 12/9/2019 11:59 pm : link
Has there been any FA signed by Gettleman that havenít been huge mistakes? I canít think of one that has proven worth their salt.
It's crazy how lost the defense looks.  
Gmen703 : 12/9/2019 11:59 pm : link
. Folks running wide open in secondary in the 13th game of the season. There's no excuse. Heads must roll.
Hard to believe we are this far into the season  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 12/10/2019 12:00 am : link
And DBs still donít know who they are supposed to cover. Zak Ertz completely uncovered in the end zone.
.  
Banks : 12/10/2019 12:00 am : link
netted 29 yards in the 2nd half and outscored 20-0. We scored on big plays, but there was hope that we'd have some sustainable drives after, but nope...Shurmur shit the bed and couldn't muster 3 frickin pts against an awful defense. That flea flicker was the single worst call I've seen in giants history. Somehow worse than the cards debacle. He needs to go
RE: Serious question  
Mdgiantsfan : 12/10/2019 12:00 am : link
In comment 14711392 beatrixkiddo said:
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Has there been any FA signed by Gettleman that havenít been huge mistakes? I canít think of one that has proven worth their salt.


Goldenís been a good pickup...outside of that I got nothing
RE: Shurmur  
LeftHook : 12/10/2019 12:00 am : link
In comment 14711382 LeftHook said:
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Clueless at the podium !

Fucking Deer in Headlights, look....... his answers are comical
RE: Serious question  
Banks : 12/10/2019 12:01 am : link
In comment 14711392 beatrixkiddo said:
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Has there been any FA signed by Gettleman that havenít been huge mistakes? I canít think of one that has proven worth their salt.

Golden has been very good imo. Problem is that he has a 1 year deal
Mara  
holmancomedown : 12/10/2019 12:02 am : link
You donít read this site but if you hear about it I want to say a resounding FUCK YOU for what you have given us ! Fuck GETTLEMAN and fuck that pussy shurmur ! Iím done with you ! FUCK YOU !
I know Shurmur sucks  
rocco8112 : 12/10/2019 12:03 am : link
but, someone let me know when I can be concerned about Barkley being a bust. Soft, dances, never steamrolls anyone, his hesitation to point of attack was evident this game, drops passes.

his younger penn state teammate on the birds looked way better.

Let me know when I can panic about him too
murmur is a born loser  
Paulie Walnuts : 12/10/2019 12:03 am : link
fuck you Hal Hunter

via Imgflip Meme Generator
RE: Shurmur  
smshmth8690 : 12/10/2019 12:04 am : link
In comment 14711382 LeftHook said:
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Clueless at the podium !


Asked a question about the current losing streak, his answer "it's not something you want to be a part of." C'mon Tisch & Mara, give him what he wants.
RE: RE: anybody else conerned about barkley ?  
sb from NYT Forum : 12/10/2019 12:06 am : link
In comment 14711240 KDubbs said:
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He looks like a JAG and the injury was a long time ago.



Odd, considering he looked fast tonight. Not his fault they dont use him in the 2nd half


Um, they used him a lot in the second half. He wasnít effective.
RE: RE: Serious question  
beatrixkiddo : 12/10/2019 12:06 am : link
In comment 14711408 Mdgiantsfan said:
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Has there been any FA signed by Gettleman that havenít been huge mistakes? I canít think of one that has proven worth their salt.



Goldenís been a good pickup...outside of that I got nothing


And to think he probably only signed him as he was familiar with Bettcher in AZ. Unreal, I really donít want Dave making and decisions with our cap money mi big forward. He did good getting rid of some people, getting new scouts in here, and fixing our drafts to respectable levels. But Gettleman is to FA what Jerry Reece was to drafting. Can we get a GM who is competent at both?
It really is sad...  
bw in dc : 12/10/2019 12:07 am : link
and Iím not a sentimental guy, that Eli ends his career with these two ass faces running the show - Shurmur and Gettleman.
RE: I know Shurmur sucks  
Hsilwek92 : 12/10/2019 12:08 am : link
In comment 14711443 rocco8112 said:
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but, someone let me know when I can be concerned about Barkley being a bust. Soft, dances, never steamrolls anyone, his hesitation to point of attack was evident this game, drops passes.

his younger penn state teammate on the birds looked way better.

Let me know when I can panic about him too



This isnít a serious post, is it?

If it is, holy fuck is is goddamn stupid.
RE: RE: RE: anybody else conerned about barkley ?  
rocco8112 : 12/10/2019 12:08 am : link
In comment 14711468 sb from NYT Forum said:
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He looks like a JAG and the injury was a long time ago.



Odd, considering he looked fast tonight. Not his fault they dont use him in the 2nd half



Um, they used him a lot in the second half. He wasnít effective.


Seriously, Barkley sucks now. I think he may become a bust. Hopefully the new coach can save his career.

He plays soft too.
RE: RE: I know Shurmur sucks  
rocco8112 : 12/10/2019 12:09 am : link
In comment 14711503 Hsilwek92 said:
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but, someone let me know when I can be concerned about Barkley being a bust. Soft, dances, never steamrolls anyone, his hesitation to point of attack was evident this game, drops passes.

his younger penn state teammate on the birds looked way better.

Let me know when I can panic about him too




This isnít a serious post, is it?

If it is, holy fuck is is goddamn stupid.


100 percent serious
For the win  
JerseyCityJoe : 12/10/2019 12:09 am : link
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Losers lose
Go Terps : 12/9/2019 11:55 pm : link : reply
And the offense died at halftime the moment Schwartz adjusted. Losing team. Losing culture.

2-11.


Exactly
RE: RE: RE: I know Shurmur sucks  
Hsilwek92 : 12/10/2019 12:10 am : link
In comment 14711508 rocco8112 said:
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In comment 14711443 rocco8112 said:


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but, someone let me know when I can be concerned about Barkley being a bust. Soft, dances, never steamrolls anyone, his hesitation to point of attack was evident this game, drops passes.

his younger penn state teammate on the birds looked way better.

Let me know when I can panic about him too




This isnít a serious post, is it?

If it is, holy fuck is is goddamn stupid.



100 percent serious


Then Iím sorry youíre that stupid.

Jesus fucking christ
RE: RE: RE: RE: I know Shurmur sucks  
rocco8112 : 12/10/2019 12:12 am : link
In comment 14711521 Hsilwek92 said:
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In comment 14711503 Hsilwek92 said:


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In comment 14711443 rocco8112 said:


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but, someone let me know when I can be concerned about Barkley being a bust. Soft, dances, never steamrolls anyone, his hesitation to point of attack was evident this game, drops passes.

his younger penn state teammate on the birds looked way better.

Let me know when I can panic about him too




This isnít a serious post, is it?

If it is, holy fuck is is goddamn stupid.



100 percent serious



Then Iím sorry youíre that stupid.

Jesus fucking christ


he doesn't look good to me, he is supposed to be a difference maker too.

Again, hopefully he improves.
If one of things you took away from this game is that Saquan Barkely  
Hsilwek92 : 12/10/2019 12:14 am : link
is a bust, you literally donít know a damn thing about football.

Just...holy fucking shit.
Shurmur is gone....  
prdave73 : 12/10/2019 12:21 am : link
How is it that this nobody in Boston Scott goes for 59 yds 1 Td, 6 Rec 69yds?!! But but, one of the best weapons(Barkley) in the league only goes for 69 yds & 1 yd receiving?!??!?!!??! That right there is the biggest reason Shurmur needs to go and will be fired. The Playcalling and not utilizing players strengths is horrible and unacceptable..
RE: If one of things you took away from this game is that Saquan Barkely  
prdave73 : 12/10/2019 12:23 am : link
In comment 14711543 Hsilwek92 said:
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is a bust, you literally donít know a damn thing about football.

Just...holy fucking shit.



Some people here don't have a clue..

Ask them what the Panthers would do with Barkley? Or the Patriots?!??
Same old shit  
Matt M. : 12/10/2019 12:23 am : link
This game saw the same problems we've seen all season. Slow start, no halftime adjustments on either side, looking like they have no clue in the second half, not getting Barkley the ball enough in the second half, waiting forever to call a timeout at the end of the 4th quarter. Then there is the creme de la creme, the flea flicker. What the fuck call is that on 3rd and long?

One question  
Matt M. : 12/10/2019 12:28 am : link
After the Eagles scored their 1st TD, they started talking about analytics in the booth and this is when you start going for 2. Huh? What analytics say to go for 2 instead of making it a 1 score game with more than a quarter to play?
the  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/10/2019 12:30 am : link
Giants offense had 11 first downs.

11.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/10/2019 12:36 am : link
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Darius Slayton had five catches for 154 yards and two touchdowns in the first half.

He ended the game with the same stats.
RE: Serious question  
BleedBlue : 12/10/2019 12:44 am : link
In comment 14711392 beatrixkiddo said:
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Has there been any FA signed by Gettleman that havenít been huge mistakes? I canít think of one that has proven worth their salt.


uh golden has been REALLY good. so good i would resgin and make him play opposite young in 2020.

you dont build through free agency anyways...free agency is for depth and stop gaps. MAYBE every once in a while you land a big time player.

think about the draft and what he has done in two years.

barkley is an all world talent. watch with a good OL and a coach who knows wtf to do.

slayton looks solid as hell in his FIRST year. he def could be a #1 going forward

connelly looked like the goods before injury, very excited to have him back

jones is a franchise QB

love looks solid, i think in time he can be the starting FS.

baker is awesome in man, horrible in zone. he needs to work on it, but he looks like he could be a solid corner for a long time.

hernandez will be fine when he has an NFL center next to him and a LT that isnt on skates

carter has a nice skillset but he hasnt shown much. i think he is a great athlete and hope being a more rotational guy, he can make an impact

ximenes hasnt shown much but again, maybe a new scheme and coach he can be a rotational pass rusher

lawerence is a run clogging monster who can push the pocket from interior. i think he will be a nice piece of the front 7 moving forward

hill is depth at this point, a little lack luster for sure after a great showing last year

beal struggled, but he is still young and inexperienced

ballentine is a blazer but needs a ton of work


his FA signings
stewart-Depth-didnt stop us from signing anyone

bethea-old, but he wanted a vet to lead what he knew would be a young secondary(he is a goner)

omameh-hoping top catch lightening in a bottle, guy was huge. his talent level wasnt but regardless he had to field a team

martin-depth guy, rotational piece, maybe he makes an impact in pass rush(drafted his replacement in ximenes and now maybe carter if we get young)

solder-big fail, however...who saw this coming? NE offered him a deal too. he was a quality LT when we had ZERO stability along the OL and quality LT play in the NFL wasnt falling off trees.

Remmers-uh who else was playing RT. he had literally NO CHOICE

Tate-you guys hate but i like the signing. he is a tough gritty WR and he knew in PS offense the quick passing game was key. i think shep/slayton/tate is a fine trio moving forward

You guys want to kill DG but this is a WILDLY young and inexperienced team at key positions. His two drafts have been solid. look around the league...not every draft just produces a ton of starters. the FACT is building a team takes time. our previous GM was a shitshow after the first two rounds outside of one season. it takes time to rectify 6 straight years of poor drafting. I think with a PROVEN HC (not some mcvay fantasy that you all have) this team would have been a few wins better THIS year. next year with another draft(yay for chase young) and some quality FA signings(schobert or littleton to play alongside connelly) and I think we can compete in a weak division.
I thought Julian Love looked really good.  
Tesla : 12/10/2019 12:45 am : link
Also, using 2 down lineman when they Eagles were first and goal on the 3 yard line is absolutely idiotic. Bettcher is so stupid it's actually hard to fathom.
re: FA  
GRBlue : 12/10/2019 12:47 am : link
People forget that players have to want to come to your team in order to sign them.

The allure of the Giants is GONE.

You have to overpay while you build through the draft.
At the half, I was genuinely happy. Then I remembered that I want Pat  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/10/2019 12:49 am : link
as far gone from this team as possible. Thankfully, Pat handled that himself with help from the usual suspects.

One day everyone on the defense will know their responsibilities. Unfortunately that day will only be after James Bettcher is fired. Can't knock the effort though. The secondary is good for one absofuckinglutely killer penalty that negates a 3rd down in a key spot EVERY single week. Today it was Sam Beal's turn.

The Chase for Chase continues.
And the other thing I took from the game is that the Eagles  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 12/10/2019 1:01 am : link
fucking suck and have no business in the postseason. Yes, they have a lot of injuries, but they were fucking lifeless tonight and only the ineptitude of Pat's Putas saved them from a season ending embarrassment.
They can't even commit penalties properly.  
Blue Dream : 12/10/2019 1:43 am : link
Someone should tell Beall that if you are going to commit defensive holding you need to at least do it long enough so the receiver doesn't catch the damn ball anyway. 5 yards is better than 22
logged in for the first time in months  
Nitro : 12/10/2019 2:33 am : link
just to say this team is fucking garbage. Fire EVERYONE.
Shurmur is so use to not winning as a HC  
Rflairr : 12/10/2019 3:01 am : link
it doesn't even bother him
3 plays  
jeff57 : 12/10/2019 5:29 am : link
And a cloud of punts.
. . . .  
jeff57 : 12/10/2019 5:39 am : link
The Eagles had lost 19 straight games when trailing by 14 or more points in the second half before rallying against the Giants. They previously overcame a 20-6 deficit in a 30-27 win over Indianapolis in Week 2 of the 2014 season.
RE: RE: RE: anybody else conerned about barkley ?  
DeepBlueJint : 12/10/2019 6:27 am : link
In comment 14711468 sb from NYT Forum said:
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In comment 14711232 Giantfan21 said:


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He looks like a JAG and the injury was a long time ago.



Odd, considering he looked fast tonight. Not his fault they dont use him in the 2nd half



Um, they used him a lot in the second half. He wasnít effective.


Used him a lot? LMAO. Last possession in 4th QTR. First Down pass gets 7 yards. Three downs to get 3 YARDS. Did Barkley get the ball? Even once? STFU
RE: How is Zach Ertz uncovered  
Earl the goat : 12/10/2019 6:29 am : link
In comment 14711133 Torrag said:
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ZACH FUCKING ERTZ!!! Are you fucking kidding me? Betccher should be fired tonight. Immediately. Not allowed on the plane. He should have to rent a car to drive home.

This coaching staff must go. They are losers.


They took a bus to philly. Not a plane lol
Ouch  
Simms : 12/10/2019 6:47 am : link
To me the flag on third and ten giving the Eagles life allowing them to march down the field was the final straw. They would have punted at that juncture might have been a different outcome. Maybe.

Out coached.....again  
Fishmanjim57 : 12/10/2019 7:53 am : link
Again, the Giants went into the locker room with a lead at halftime and were shut out in the second half.
If that doesn't prove that Shurmur and his staff have no clue what they're doing to the owners, then I don't know why Shurmur & Co. are still employed.
Doug Pederson went into the locker room at half behind, made adjustments that forced an overtime, and as usual the Giants lost to the Eagles.
As for Shurmur, it didn't matter that his future HOF qb was perhaps starting his final game for the Giants, he made no changes.
I want Shurmur fired TODAY!
Gettleman can get axed after the season, but I want Shurmur to be fired!
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