How many times have we seen this show? Seriously. How many times have we seen games like these? You can't even be mad anymore. You just anticipate them. Hell, you expect them. When the Giants have the lead, not only is it not safe, but you EXPECT them to blow it, ESPECIALLY against the fucking Eagles.
I guess the Chase for Chase lives on. You guys think Rivera can get our boys prepared in five days notice?
I'm sorry to you guys who are still emotionally invested in these games.
Hell, I'm sorry to you guys who actually expected us to maintain the lead. We always blow it. You guys should know that by now. We always blow the lead, especially to the Eagles.
Wtf! This defense is pitiful. Miscommunication still after 13 weeks?! Bettcher cant fix it, Withers appears useless and Shurmur has not made an adjustment in two years that made a bit of difference.
Eli played well enough to get a contract somewhere next year,
I dont see how they come back Sunday on short rest given its almost Tuesday already and playing a tough emotionally drive game and lose it as they did and beat the Dolphins.
Really horrific second half by Shurmur and Shula. As bad as Eagles were in first, Giants showed them equals on second half.
Sure, he would commit a backbreaking screw-up at least once a game, but he was at least serviceable the rest of the time.
I don't think anyone could call Solder serviceable at any point in time. I think there were at least three times in the second half where Solder let his guy run right past him and kill any hope of a drive.
ZACH FUCKING ERTZ!!! Are you fucking kidding me? Betccher should be fired tonight. Immediately. Not allowed on the plane. He should have to rent a car to drive home.
Sure, he would commit a backbreaking screw-up at least once a game, but he was at least serviceable the rest of the time.
I don't think anyone could call Solder serviceable at any point in time. I think there were at least three times in the second half where Solder let his guy run right past him and kill any hope of a drive.
At least Ereck Flowers was cheaper. Solder brings turnstile tackle play along with a cap crippling contract.
Baker, Lawrence, Ximines, Slayton, Williams, Golden, Hill, Tomlinson, and Eli played well.
The OL was awful, especially Solder and Halapio. That unit was why we lost the game. The defense was just exhausted at the end.
Shurmur and DG have made too many mistakes to stay.
Give up way too many big plays on defense too. Miscommunication on defense and poor fundamentals. If you cant se that the Eagles are going to throw to their RBs in the flats or screens, then you deserve to lose!
In the second half. No answer for Eagles uptempo with a practice squad RB.
No adjustment on offense in response to Eagles halftime adjustment. Shurmur and Bettcher must go. This team is more talented than a 2 win team.
Exactly. We had shots too. 2nd and 3 on under 2 minutes to go they are obviously bringing pressure and you dont run a damn screen or a pitch to Barkley?
Eric is there a way you can create a poll to get BBIs opinion on whether Shurmur should be fired. I think its pretty close to obvious he should be gone and most of BBI thinks the same, but their is still a few that think otherwise and the number might surprise you.
AS GOD AS MY WITNESS, if we miss out on hiring Ron Rivera to coach this team and end up with Jason Fucking Garrett instead, I'm done watching the Giants until John Mara sells his part of the team. I AM FUCKING DONE.
This outcome was predictable. Eli Manning, after a nice story of a first half, showed his limitations of the past several seasons in the second half. The typical defense showed up so its not really even worth discussing. And of course Shurmur continue to be a loser.
If DG gives Williams a big contract simply to save face for his mind numbing trade, Ill know this organization is in the dumps for a long time to come.
Not really much else to say other than this was kinda expected.
Ive not been this frustrated with this organization since the he who shall not be named years. This team has zero heart, zero self respect and zero balls. Shurmur needs to be fired before they get on the bus. Hello Rivera, Payton or Belicheck. This farce of the last 7 years needs to end. Sorry Eli, sorry this entire organization let you down in your latter years. Good night.
Eli played pretty well in the 1st half but we helped our draft position and also ensure that shurmur and maybe gettleman are gone at the end of the year.
This team needs major changes and losses like this make them happen.
you knew we were gonna lose. but this was the best long term outcome:
1) eli looked solid, just for old times sake
2) lost the game, still got chase
3) OT, kept it close, not blown out
i was legit 50/50 pre-game if I even wanted them to win. obviously as game emotions kicked in, you root for the team thats part of you to win, but deep down i know its better to get dat pick. plus the eagles and cowboys are ass, there is no 17 coming this year
Again. Three fucking short yardage plays and we use 2 DL. Again. Afuckingain. Three plays that we have the god damn horses to stop and your fat ass uses 2 DL again. Horse shit. Fire that sloppy bitch tomorrow.
I haven't been emotionally invested in this team for 6 weeks. I want the best draft position possible. I don't like losing but I can see pig picture. But godDAMN I hate the Eagles, and for some reason I allowed myself to think how nice it would be for an Eli-led team to win in Philly.
Eli does still have a winning record. I don't know why all the graphics and records people quote show just his regular season record. Does the postseason not count for some reason? If anything it counts for more.
Young wont matter. Our freaking defense has zero clue on what they are supposed to be doing. Our OL is equally embarrassing.
I cant stand watching Bethea, but he was on most of our stops in the end.
So pissed!
I think the assumption would be that Bettcher would be fired (along with Shurmur) and a new D Coordinator might better be able to hel thing figure out what they're supposed to do.
You people talking about "we still have Chase" I need to know somethin
Huh? With this coaching staff, what the fuck is he going to do? He'll just be another high draft pick that we ruin on this worse than fucking putrid defense.
RE: Until tonight I have been on the fence with Shurmer
call plays? Can he study the Eagles defensive adjustments? Can he talk with the QB and the rest of the offense about what'll work? Does he even have time to listen to coaches upstairs? It would be different if he clearly had a feel for the game, or if he had outstanding talent -- guys who can dominate the line of scrimmage and execute... But, no. Again and again, he shows no ability to adjust. He should let somebody else call the plays, but he's just too stubborn.
He looks like a JAG and the injury was a long time ago.
Odd, considering he looked fast tonight. Not his fault they dont use him in the 2nd half
Hopefully a new regime maximizes his talents. But I think were al seeing the fears many of us had making a running back a corner stone pick on steam bereft of talent.
RE: How can Shurmur possibly think that he is equipped to
call plays? Can he study the Eagles defensive adjustments? Can he talk with the QB and the rest of the offense about what'll work? Does he even have time to listen to coaches upstairs? It would be different if he clearly had a feel for the game, or if he had outstanding talent -- guys who can dominate the line of scrimmage and execute... But, no. Again and again, he shows no ability to adjust. He should let somebody else call the plays, but he's just too stubborn.
Ypu. more of the same, AGAIN. I'm all for stability, but let's start the clean out tomorrow.
Again. Three fucking short yardage plays and we use 2 DL. Again. Afuckingain. Three plays that we have the god damn horses to stop and your fat ass uses 2 DL again. Horse shit. Fire that sloppy bitch tomorrow.
Preach man!
This is why I cant blame DG. Hes given this staff some serious beef on the DL but Bettcher treats every down like its a passing down.
To all you guys asking why Zac Ertz was so wide open
Again. Three fucking short yardage plays and we use 2 DL. Again. Afuckingain. Three plays that we have the god damn horses to stop and your fat ass uses 2 DL again. Horse shit. Fire that sloppy bitch tomorrow.
I couldnt believe it when I saw the replays 🤦🏾♂️. On one of the plays we left a gaping hole which allowed Peters to easily get to Mayo to blow him out of the hole.
I dont see how they come back Sunday on short rest given its almost Tuesday already and playing a tough emotionally drive game and lose it as they did and beat the Dolphins.
Really horrific second half by Shurmur and Shula. As bad as Eagles were in first, Giants showed them equals on second half.
Dolphins lost an emotion gut wrenching game in NY too yesterday.
RE: How can Shurmur possibly think that he is equipped to
call plays? Can he study the Eagles defensive adjustments? Can he talk with the QB and the rest of the offense about what'll work? Does he even have time to listen to coaches upstairs? It would be different if he clearly had a feel for the game, or if he had outstanding talent -- guys who can dominate the line of scrimmage and execute... But, no. Again and again, he shows no ability to adjust. He should let somebody else call the plays, but he's just too stubborn.
No doubt we do not understand the subtlety of thought that went into calling a flea flicker on 3rd and long.
call plays? Can he study the Eagles defensive adjustments? Can he talk with the QB and the rest of the offense about what'll work? Does he even have time to listen to coaches upstairs? It would be different if he clearly had a feel for the game, or if he had outstanding talent -- guys who can dominate the line of scrimmage and execute... But, no. Again and again, he shows no ability to adjust. He should let somebody else call the plays, but he's just too stubborn.
Ypu. more of the same, AGAIN. I'm all for stability, but let's start the clean out tomorrow.
Two words
Flea Flicker
Its time for the entire coaching staff and front office to go already.
Baker, Lawrence, Ximines, Slayton, Williams, Golden, Hill, Tomlinson, and Eli played well.
The OL was awful, especially Solder and Halapio. That unit was why we lost the game. The defense was just exhausted at the end.
Shurmur and DG have made too many mistakes to stay.
Seems to me you really liked how a lot of DGs additions played tonight...
Jones and Lawrence have played well, but they were first round picks. Baker has been improving, but still looks lost in zone. Nothing really from Ximines this year, or Carter. Hernandez seems to have taken a step back, but I admit it's hard to judge him since the whole OL is a train wreck. Tomlinson was Reese.
But the real problem is DG's FA signings. Solder, Ogletree, Omameh, Bethea, Stewart, Halapio, etc. Williams can play but the trade was epically bad. I'm also against any GM who refuses to ever trade down in any round.
RE: RE: RE: How can Shurmur possibly think that he is equipped to
call plays? Can he study the Eagles defensive adjustments? Can he talk with the QB and the rest of the offense about what'll work? Does he even have time to listen to coaches upstairs? It would be different if he clearly had a feel for the game, or if he had outstanding talent -- guys who can dominate the line of scrimmage and execute... But, no. Again and again, he shows no ability to adjust. He should let somebody else call the plays, but he's just too stubborn.
Ypu. more of the same, AGAIN. I'm all for stability, but let's start the clean out tomorrow.
Huh? With this coaching staff, what the fuck is he going to do? He'll just be another high draft pick that we ruin on this worse than fucking putrid defense.
Chase or not, if we return the same regime we're going 0-16 next year.
I dont see how they come back Sunday on short rest given its almost Tuesday already and playing a tough emotionally drive game and lose it as they did and beat the Dolphins.
Really horrific second half by Shurmur and Shula. As bad as Eagles were in first, Giants showed them equals on second half.
Dolphins lost an emotion gut wrenching game in NY too yesterday.
Huh? With this coaching staff, what the fuck is he going to do? He'll just be another high draft pick that we ruin on this worse than fucking putrid defense.
Chase or not, if we return the same regime we're going 0-16 next year.
Ive not been this frustrated with this organization since the he who shall not be named years. This team has zero heart, zero self respect and zero balls.
Right? Remember when Gettleman said "No guts, no glory kid?" in response to some question during the offseason. I said he was merely taking inventory instead of employing a tough guy cliche. I was right.
netted 29 yards in the 2nd half and outscored 20-0. We scored on big plays, but there was hope that we'd have some sustainable drives after, but nope...Shurmur shit the bed and couldn't muster 3 frickin pts against an awful defense. That flea flicker was the single worst call I've seen in giants history. Somehow worse than the cards debacle. He needs to go
You dont read this site but if you hear about it I want to say a resounding FUCK YOU for what you have given us ! Fuck GETTLEMAN and fuck that pussy shurmur ! Im done with you ! FUCK YOU !
but, someone let me know when I can be concerned about Barkley being a bust. Soft, dances, never steamrolls anyone, his hesitation to point of attack was evident this game, drops passes.
his younger penn state teammate on the birds looked way better.
Asked a question about the current losing streak, his answer "it's not something you want to be a part of." C'mon Tisch & Mara, give him what he wants.
Has there been any FA signed by Gettleman that havent been huge mistakes? I cant think of one that has proven worth their salt.
Goldens been a good pickup...outside of that I got nothing
And to think he probably only signed him as he was familiar with Bettcher in AZ. Unreal, I really dont want Dave making and decisions with our cap money mi big forward. He did good getting rid of some people, getting new scouts in here, and fixing our drafts to respectable levels. But Gettleman is to FA what Jerry Reece was to drafting. Can we get a GM who is competent at both?
but, someone let me know when I can be concerned about Barkley being a bust. Soft, dances, never steamrolls anyone, his hesitation to point of attack was evident this game, drops passes.
his younger penn state teammate on the birds looked way better.
but, someone let me know when I can be concerned about Barkley being a bust. Soft, dances, never steamrolls anyone, his hesitation to point of attack was evident this game, drops passes.
his younger penn state teammate on the birds looked way better.
but, someone let me know when I can be concerned about Barkley being a bust. Soft, dances, never steamrolls anyone, his hesitation to point of attack was evident this game, drops passes.
his younger penn state teammate on the birds looked way better.
but, someone let me know when I can be concerned about Barkley being a bust. Soft, dances, never steamrolls anyone, his hesitation to point of attack was evident this game, drops passes.
his younger penn state teammate on the birds looked way better.
Let me know when I can panic about him too
This isnt a serious post, is it?
If it is, holy fuck is is goddamn stupid.
100 percent serious
Then Im sorry youre that stupid.
Jesus fucking christ
he doesn't look good to me, he is supposed to be a difference maker too.
Again, hopefully he improves.
If one of things you took away from this game is that Saquan Barkely
How is it that this nobody in Boston Scott goes for 59 yds 1 Td, 6 Rec 69yds?!! But but, one of the best weapons(Barkley) in the league only goes for 69 yds & 1 yd receiving?!??!?!!??! That right there is the biggest reason Shurmur needs to go and will be fired. The Playcalling and not utilizing players strengths is horrible and unacceptable..
RE: If one of things you took away from this game is that Saquan Barkely
This game saw the same problems we've seen all season. Slow start, no halftime adjustments on either side, looking like they have no clue in the second half, not getting Barkley the ball enough in the second half, waiting forever to call a timeout at the end of the 4th quarter. Then there is the creme de la creme, the flea flicker. What the fuck call is that on 3rd and long?
After the Eagles scored their 1st TD, they started talking about analytics in the booth and this is when you start going for 2. Huh? What analytics say to go for 2 instead of making it a 1 score game with more than a quarter to play?
Has there been any FA signed by Gettleman that havent been huge mistakes? I cant think of one that has proven worth their salt.
uh golden has been REALLY good. so good i would resgin and make him play opposite young in 2020.
you dont build through free agency anyways...free agency is for depth and stop gaps. MAYBE every once in a while you land a big time player.
think about the draft and what he has done in two years.
barkley is an all world talent. watch with a good OL and a coach who knows wtf to do.
slayton looks solid as hell in his FIRST year. he def could be a #1 going forward
connelly looked like the goods before injury, very excited to have him back
jones is a franchise QB
love looks solid, i think in time he can be the starting FS.
baker is awesome in man, horrible in zone. he needs to work on it, but he looks like he could be a solid corner for a long time.
hernandez will be fine when he has an NFL center next to him and a LT that isnt on skates
carter has a nice skillset but he hasnt shown much. i think he is a great athlete and hope being a more rotational guy, he can make an impact
ximenes hasnt shown much but again, maybe a new scheme and coach he can be a rotational pass rusher
lawerence is a run clogging monster who can push the pocket from interior. i think he will be a nice piece of the front 7 moving forward
hill is depth at this point, a little lack luster for sure after a great showing last year
beal struggled, but he is still young and inexperienced
ballentine is a blazer but needs a ton of work
his FA signings
stewart-Depth-didnt stop us from signing anyone
bethea-old, but he wanted a vet to lead what he knew would be a young secondary(he is a goner)
omameh-hoping top catch lightening in a bottle, guy was huge. his talent level wasnt but regardless he had to field a team
martin-depth guy, rotational piece, maybe he makes an impact in pass rush(drafted his replacement in ximenes and now maybe carter if we get young)
solder-big fail, however...who saw this coming? NE offered him a deal too. he was a quality LT when we had ZERO stability along the OL and quality LT play in the NFL wasnt falling off trees.
Remmers-uh who else was playing RT. he had literally NO CHOICE
Tate-you guys hate but i like the signing. he is a tough gritty WR and he knew in PS offense the quick passing game was key. i think shep/slayton/tate is a fine trio moving forward
You guys want to kill DG but this is a WILDLY young and inexperienced team at key positions. His two drafts have been solid. look around the league...not every draft just produces a ton of starters. the FACT is building a team takes time. our previous GM was a shitshow after the first two rounds outside of one season. it takes time to rectify 6 straight years of poor drafting. I think with a PROVEN HC (not some mcvay fantasy that you all have) this team would have been a few wins better THIS year. next year with another draft(yay for chase young) and some quality FA signings(schobert or littleton to play alongside connelly) and I think we can compete in a weak division.
Also, using 2 down lineman when they Eagles were first and goal on the 3 yard line is absolutely idiotic. Bettcher is so stupid it's actually hard to fathom.
as far gone from this team as possible. Thankfully, Pat handled that himself with help from the usual suspects.
One day everyone on the defense will know their responsibilities. Unfortunately that day will only be after James Bettcher is fired. Can't knock the effort though. The secondary is good for one absofuckinglutely killer penalty that negates a 3rd down in a key spot EVERY single week. Today it was Sam Beal's turn.
The Chase for Chase continues.
And the other thing I took from the game is that the Eagles
fucking suck and have no business in the postseason. Yes, they have a lot of injuries, but they were fucking lifeless tonight and only the ineptitude of Pat's Putas saved them from a season ending embarrassment.
Someone should tell Beall that if you are going to commit defensive holding you need to at least do it long enough so the receiver doesn't catch the damn ball anyway. 5 yards is better than 22
The Eagles had lost 19 straight games when trailing by 14 or more points in the second half before rallying against the Giants. They previously overcame a 20-6 deficit in a 30-27 win over Indianapolis in Week 2 of the 2014 season.
ZACH FUCKING ERTZ!!! Are you fucking kidding me? Betccher should be fired tonight. Immediately. Not allowed on the plane. He should have to rent a car to drive home.
To me the flag on third and ten giving the Eagles life allowing them to march down the field was the final straw. They would have punted at that juncture might have been a different outcome. Maybe.
Again, the Giants went into the locker room with a lead at halftime and were shut out in the second half.
If that doesn't prove that Shurmur and his staff have no clue what they're doing to the owners, then I don't know why Shurmur & Co. are still employed.
Doug Pederson went into the locker room at half behind, made adjustments that forced an overtime, and as usual the Giants lost to the Eagles.
As for Shurmur, it didn't matter that his future HOF qb was perhaps starting his final game for the Giants, he made no changes.
I want Shurmur fired TODAY!
Gettleman can get axed after the season, but I want Shurmur to be fired!
I guess the Chase for Chase lives on. You guys think Rivera can get our boys prepared in five days notice?
Not under Shurmur
Never wanted him here.
Goodbye Pat.
Love ya, Tommy. You're a good dude. I miss your Rooting Guide threads. Those threads are long gone.
You're correct in asking this, but it's been asked every game since the loss to the Jets.
by the same token, i didn't want to see eli get destroyed
i guess i got best of both worlds, bc, as someone who is 30 and saw #10 suit up and sling the ball, it really meant a fucking shitload
but i got years ahead of me and i didn't want to lose out on chase young or andrew thomas over sentimenintality
plus, this secures shurmur (and hopefully gettlemans!) firing
all in all, a good night and more entertaining than i anticipated
(just shows how pathetic our expectations are now)
And nice no timeout Shurmur you loser. Outfoxed again.
Its pouring rain, the Eagles were doing it all the 2nd half. Shurmur is an idiot
The OL was awful, especially Solder and Halapio. That unit was why we lost the game. The defense was just exhausted at the end.
Shurmur and DG have made too many mistakes to stay.
Hell, I'm sorry to you guys who actually expected us to maintain the lead. We always blow it. You guys should know that by now. We always blow the lead, especially to the Eagles.
Really horrific second half by Shurmur and Shula. As bad as Eagles were in first, Giants showed them equals on second half.
No adjustment on offense in response to Eagles halftime adjustment. Shurmur and Bettcher must go. This team is more talented than a 2 win team.
I don't think anyone could call Solder serviceable at any point in time. I think there were at least three times in the second half where Solder let his guy run right past him and kill any hope of a drive.
This coaching staff must go. They are losers.
Gettleman owns this mess.
to be fair did our offense get a 1st down in the 2nd half...they were on the field the entire 2nd half and OT...they were exhausted
I don't think anyone could call Solder serviceable at any point in time. I think there were at least three times in the second half where Solder let his guy run right past him and kill any hope of a drive.
At least Ereck Flowers was cheaper. Solder brings turnstile tackle play along with a cap crippling contract.
The OL was awful, especially Solder and Halapio. That unit was why we lost the game. The defense was just exhausted at the end.
Shurmur and DG have made too many mistakes to stay.
Seems to me you really liked how a lot of DGs additions played tonight...
The OL was awful, especially Solder and Halapio. That unit was why we lost the game. The defense was just exhausted at the end.
Shurmur and DG have made too many mistakes to stay.
Give up way too many big plays on defense too. Miscommunication on defense and poor fundamentals. If you cant se that the Eagles are going to throw to their RBs in the flats or screens, then you deserve to lose!
WTF happened?
No adjustment on offense in response to Eagles halftime adjustment. Shurmur and Bettcher must go. This team is more talented than a 2 win team.
Exactly. We had shots too. 2nd and 3 on under 2 minutes to go they are obviously bringing pressure and you dont run a damn screen or a pitch to Barkley?
I cant stand watching Bethea, but he was on most of our stops in the end.
So pissed!
If DG gives Williams a big contract simply to save face for his mind numbing trade, Ill know this organization is in the dumps for a long time to come.
Not really much else to say other than this was kinda expected.
bro a lot of players played well tonight. You guys are taking your anger out and look childish.
This team needs major changes and losses like this make them happen.
The defense need 5 new starters, and maybe 7 if Golden and Williams leave.
1) eli looked solid, just for old times sake
2) lost the game, still got chase
3) OT, kept it close, not blown out
i was legit 50/50 pre-game if I even wanted them to win. obviously as game emotions kicked in, you root for the team thats part of you to win, but deep down i know its better to get dat pick. plus the eagles and cowboys are ass, there is no 17 coming this year
Then, we add another loss which will help make significant changes at the end of the year.
What really surprises me is how Betcher was not sacrificed at some point this season.
This was the only game Ive been able to watch start to finish. And while Im all in on the #2 pick I too am still pissed!
The difference between football and baseball is that there is always someone else to blame in football.
And wouldn't you know it...Shurmur'd.
Odd, considering he looked fast tonight. Not his fault they dont use him in the 2nd half
Its pouring rain, the Eagles were doing it all the 2nd half. Shurmur is an idiot
I have never seen a Giant team consistently run or defend screen passes going back to Alex Websters days.
I cant stand watching Bethea, but he was on most of our stops in the end.
So pissed!
I think the assumption would be that Bettcher would be fired (along with Shurmur) and a new D Coordinator might better be able to hel thing figure out what they're supposed to do.
Huh? With this coaching staff, what the fuck is he going to do? He'll just be another high draft pick that we ruin on this worse than fucking putrid defense.
Why were you on the fence? He was coaching like this last year.
Run blocking was atrocious. Solder cannot get a seal, ever! And Barkleys longest run was called back after a very questionable holding call.
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Survive this??? How is he not let go tomorrow??
You're correct in asking this, but it's been asked every game since the loss to the Jets.
I know , but 2 years in a row blowing 2nd half double digit leads in Philly and Barkley was barely used. They ran 20 freaking plays for 30yds !!!!!
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He looks like a JAG and the injury was a long time ago.
Odd, considering he looked fast tonight. Not his fault they dont use him in the 2nd half
He has 17 carries for 66 yards. He looks more like an undrafted FA then the number 2 pick right now
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He looks like a JAG and the injury was a long time ago.
Odd, considering he looked fast tonight. Not his fault they dont use him in the 2nd half
Hopefully a new regime maximizes his talents. But I think were al seeing the fears many of us had making a running back a corner stone pick on steam bereft of talent.
Ypu. more of the same, AGAIN. I'm all for stability, but let's start the clean out tomorrow.
Preach man!
This is why I cant blame DG. Hes given this staff some serious beef on the DL but Bettcher treats every down like its a passing down.
I couldnt believe it when I saw the replays 🤦🏾♂️. On one of the plays we left a gaping hole which allowed Peters to easily get to Mayo to blow him out of the hole.
Really horrific second half by Shurmur and Shula. As bad as Eagles were in first, Giants showed them equals on second half.
Dolphins lost an emotion gut wrenching game in NY too yesterday.
They were dead freaking tired !!! On the field the entire 2nd half!! They ran out of gas !
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call plays? Can he study the Eagles defensive adjustments? Can he talk with the QB and the rest of the offense about what'll work? Does he even have time to listen to coaches upstairs? It would be different if he clearly had a feel for the game, or if he had outstanding talent -- guys who can dominate the line of scrimmage and execute... But, no. Again and again, he shows no ability to adjust. He should let somebody else call the plays, but he's just too stubborn.
Ypu. more of the same, AGAIN. I'm all for stability, but let's start the clean out tomorrow.
Two words
Flea Flicker
Ogletree need to go. He blows as many plays as he makes.
Beal always turns his back to the receiver when he turns up field. No wonder he always loses his man.
Bettcher is just an awful DC.
Julian Love makes plays, but he needs to learn to breakdown and not fly by the man he is tackling.
Shurmur probably cooked his goose in this game. As he did in the Eagle game last year, had terrible offensive play calling in the 2nd half.
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his third game winning drive of his career against the Giants. Fucking pathetic that they let that loser beat them again.
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Baker, Lawrence, Ximines, Slayton, Williams, Golden, Hill, Tomlinson, and Eli played well.
The OL was awful, especially Solder and Halapio. That unit was why we lost the game. The defense was just exhausted at the end.
Shurmur and DG have made too many mistakes to stay.
Seems to me you really liked how a lot of DGs additions played tonight...
Jones and Lawrence have played well, but they were first round picks. Baker has been improving, but still looks lost in zone. Nothing really from Ximines this year, or Carter. Hernandez seems to have taken a step back, but I admit it's hard to judge him since the whole OL is a train wreck. Tomlinson was Reese.
But the real problem is DG's FA signings. Solder, Ogletree, Omameh, Bethea, Stewart, Halapio, etc. Williams can play but the trade was epically bad. I'm also against any GM who refuses to ever trade down in any round.
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call plays? Can he study the Eagles defensive adjustments? Can he talk with the QB and the rest of the offense about what'll work? Does he even have time to listen to coaches upstairs? It would be different if he clearly had a feel for the game, or if he had outstanding talent -- guys who can dominate the line of scrimmage and execute... But, no. Again and again, he shows no ability to adjust. He should let somebody else call the plays, but he's just too stubborn.
Ypu. more of the same, AGAIN. I'm all for stability, but let's start the clean out tomorrow.
Two words
Flea Flicker
Maybe the worst call I have ever seen.
Huh? With this coaching staff, what the fuck is he going to do? He'll just be another high draft pick that we ruin on this worse than fucking putrid defense.
Chase or not, if we return the same regime we're going 0-16 next year.
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I dont see how they come back Sunday on short rest given its almost Tuesday already and playing a tough emotionally drive game and lose it as they did and beat the Dolphins.
Really horrific second half by Shurmur and Shula. As bad as Eagles were in first, Giants showed them equals on second half.
Dolphins lost an emotion gut wrenching game in NY too yesterday.
2-11.
A lot has to change this offseason
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WHAT THE FUCK IS CHASE YOUNG GOING TO DO?
Huh? With this coaching staff, what the fuck is he going to do? He'll just be another high draft pick that we ruin on this worse than fucking putrid defense.
Chase or not, if we return the same regime we're going 0-16 next year.
Chase 2020
4 Sunshine in 2021
Keep the regime. Haha
What does it say about our offense that it couldn't move the ball at all simply because the Eagles finally took away a fifth round rookie WR?
he sunk the whole world
Right? Remember when Gettleman said "No guts, no glory kid?" in response to some question during the offseason. I said he was merely taking inventory instead of employing a tough guy cliche. I was right.
Goldens been a good pickup...outside of that I got nothing
Fucking Deer in Headlights, look....... his answers are comical
Golden has been very good imo. Problem is that he has a 1 year deal
his younger penn state teammate on the birds looked way better.
Let me know when I can panic about him too
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Asked a question about the current losing streak, his answer "it's not something you want to be a part of." C'mon Tisch & Mara, give him what he wants.
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He looks like a JAG and the injury was a long time ago.
Odd, considering he looked fast tonight. Not his fault they dont use him in the 2nd half
Um, they used him a lot in the second half. He wasnt effective.
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Has there been any FA signed by Gettleman that havent been huge mistakes? I cant think of one that has proven worth their salt.
Goldens been a good pickup...outside of that I got nothing
And to think he probably only signed him as he was familiar with Bettcher in AZ. Unreal, I really dont want Dave making and decisions with our cap money mi big forward. He did good getting rid of some people, getting new scouts in here, and fixing our drafts to respectable levels. But Gettleman is to FA what Jerry Reece was to drafting. Can we get a GM who is competent at both?
his younger penn state teammate on the birds looked way better.
Let me know when I can panic about him too
This isnt a serious post, is it?
If it is, holy fuck is is goddamn stupid.
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He looks like a JAG and the injury was a long time ago.
Odd, considering he looked fast tonight. Not his fault they dont use him in the 2nd half
Um, they used him a lot in the second half. He wasnt effective.
Seriously, Barkley sucks now. I think he may become a bust. Hopefully the new coach can save his career.
He plays soft too.
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but, someone let me know when I can be concerned about Barkley being a bust. Soft, dances, never steamrolls anyone, his hesitation to point of attack was evident this game, drops passes.
his younger penn state teammate on the birds looked way better.
Let me know when I can panic about him too
This isnt a serious post, is it?
If it is, holy fuck is is goddamn stupid.
100 percent serious
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And the offense died at halftime the moment Schwartz adjusted. Losing team. Losing culture.
2-11.
Exactly
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but, someone let me know when I can be concerned about Barkley being a bust. Soft, dances, never steamrolls anyone, his hesitation to point of attack was evident this game, drops passes.
his younger penn state teammate on the birds looked way better.
Let me know when I can panic about him too
This isnt a serious post, is it?
If it is, holy fuck is is goddamn stupid.
100 percent serious
Then Im sorry youre that stupid.
Jesus fucking christ
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but, someone let me know when I can be concerned about Barkley being a bust. Soft, dances, never steamrolls anyone, his hesitation to point of attack was evident this game, drops passes.
his younger penn state teammate on the birds looked way better.
Let me know when I can panic about him too
This isnt a serious post, is it?
If it is, holy fuck is is goddamn stupid.
100 percent serious
Then Im sorry youre that stupid.
Jesus fucking christ
he doesn't look good to me, he is supposed to be a difference maker too.
Again, hopefully he improves.
Just...holy fucking shit.
Just...holy fucking shit.
Some people here don't have a clue..
Ask them what the Panthers would do with Barkley? Or the Patriots?!??
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@BigBlueInteract
16s
Darius Slayton had five catches for 154 yards and two touchdowns in the first half.
He ended the game with the same stats.
uh golden has been REALLY good. so good i would resgin and make him play opposite young in 2020.
you dont build through free agency anyways...free agency is for depth and stop gaps. MAYBE every once in a while you land a big time player.
think about the draft and what he has done in two years.
barkley is an all world talent. watch with a good OL and a coach who knows wtf to do.
slayton looks solid as hell in his FIRST year. he def could be a #1 going forward
connelly looked like the goods before injury, very excited to have him back
jones is a franchise QB
love looks solid, i think in time he can be the starting FS.
baker is awesome in man, horrible in zone. he needs to work on it, but he looks like he could be a solid corner for a long time.
hernandez will be fine when he has an NFL center next to him and a LT that isnt on skates
carter has a nice skillset but he hasnt shown much. i think he is a great athlete and hope being a more rotational guy, he can make an impact
ximenes hasnt shown much but again, maybe a new scheme and coach he can be a rotational pass rusher
lawerence is a run clogging monster who can push the pocket from interior. i think he will be a nice piece of the front 7 moving forward
hill is depth at this point, a little lack luster for sure after a great showing last year
beal struggled, but he is still young and inexperienced
ballentine is a blazer but needs a ton of work
his FA signings
stewart-Depth-didnt stop us from signing anyone
bethea-old, but he wanted a vet to lead what he knew would be a young secondary(he is a goner)
omameh-hoping top catch lightening in a bottle, guy was huge. his talent level wasnt but regardless he had to field a team
martin-depth guy, rotational piece, maybe he makes an impact in pass rush(drafted his replacement in ximenes and now maybe carter if we get young)
solder-big fail, however...who saw this coming? NE offered him a deal too. he was a quality LT when we had ZERO stability along the OL and quality LT play in the NFL wasnt falling off trees.
Remmers-uh who else was playing RT. he had literally NO CHOICE
Tate-you guys hate but i like the signing. he is a tough gritty WR and he knew in PS offense the quick passing game was key. i think shep/slayton/tate is a fine trio moving forward
You guys want to kill DG but this is a WILDLY young and inexperienced team at key positions. His two drafts have been solid. look around the league...not every draft just produces a ton of starters. the FACT is building a team takes time. our previous GM was a shitshow after the first two rounds outside of one season. it takes time to rectify 6 straight years of poor drafting. I think with a PROVEN HC (not some mcvay fantasy that you all have) this team would have been a few wins better THIS year. next year with another draft(yay for chase young) and some quality FA signings(schobert or littleton to play alongside connelly) and I think we can compete in a weak division.
The allure of the Giants is GONE.
You have to overpay while you build through the draft.
One day everyone on the defense will know their responsibilities. Unfortunately that day will only be after James Bettcher is fired. Can't knock the effort though. The secondary is good for one absofuckinglutely killer penalty that negates a 3rd down in a key spot EVERY single week. Today it was Sam Beal's turn.
The Chase for Chase continues.
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He looks like a JAG and the injury was a long time ago.
Odd, considering he looked fast tonight. Not his fault they dont use him in the 2nd half
Um, they used him a lot in the second half. He wasnt effective.
Used him a lot? LMAO. Last possession in 4th QTR. First Down pass gets 7 yards. Three downs to get 3 YARDS. Did Barkley get the ball? Even once? STFU
This coaching staff must go. They are losers.
They took a bus to philly. Not a plane lol
If that doesn't prove that Shurmur and his staff have no clue what they're doing to the owners, then I don't know why Shurmur & Co. are still employed.
Doug Pederson went into the locker room at half behind, made adjustments that forced an overtime, and as usual the Giants lost to the Eagles.
As for Shurmur, it didn't matter that his future HOF qb was perhaps starting his final game for the Giants, he made no changes.
I want Shurmur fired TODAY!
Gettleman can get axed after the season, but I want Shurmur to be fired!