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Eat the dead money cut Solder sign Castonzo

Giantz_comeback : 12/10/2019 12:41 am
Yes it's a lot of dead money but its also 6 million more vs. keeping him on the team.

Then go OL in 2nd round.

Castonzo-Hernendez-Biadasz-Zietler-Remmers

That's 2 big upgrades in our weakest OL spots.

We NEED to finally fix this OL once and for all.


Draft:

Chase Young rd 1, Tyler Biadasz rd 2

Resign Golden, Williams

Trenches suddenly look real good next year hopefully with a better DC,OC and OL coach to boot
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RE: I don't think this is sometihng a fan can answer  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 12/10/2019 9:39 am : link
In comment 14712215 UConn4523 said:
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the Giants need to hire the top OL coach available along with their new OC. We need someone to take a long hard look at why Solder isn't successful because we make any rash decisions on cutting him and leaving dead money plus another hold to fill.

I have no idea if he's finished or if its something he can clean up enough to simply be average.


That's a resonable well-thought-out stance. Don't you know we're supposed to overreact and scream at one another? Get with the program.
"overreact"  
Greg from LI : 12/10/2019 9:42 am : link
Tell me, what is the appropriate level of reaction for a 2-11 debacle of a season?
I'm on the side we pretty much had no choice with Solder and  
Zeke's Alibi : 12/10/2019 9:42 am : link
No one could see this coming. What is inexcusable though is the restructuring.
the restructure is immaterial.  
fkap : 12/10/2019 9:49 am : link
The Giants had to take out a loan, and Solder was the bank they went to. The future cap space was disappearing whether Solder is on the team or not.

Cap space is gained by dumping Solder. Yes, you have to replace him, but a solid argument is that you have to replace him anyhow, so the 6.5 mil is a plus.

The only real question is what options are available to replace him. There's a 3 mil roster bonus due day one of new season, so you can't really wait (or be willing to eat 3 mil to see him through FA/draft/camp, reducing the savings to 3.5 mil).

It may boil down to Solder being a hold your nose and put up with the stench, but if any options arise, it is easy to dump him.
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LakeGeorgeGiant : 12/10/2019 9:51 am : link
In comment 14712253 Greg from LI said:
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Tell me, what is the appropriate level of reaction for a 2-11 debacle of a season?


I'm referring to the penchant for quick easy answers hurled with exclamation points by people that have little knowledge and fewer answers.

Simply saying "Solder sucks herp derp" is a quick easy answer. He played fairly well in New England. We have been unable to put together a decent OL no matter who we suit up and put out there. Maybe Solder forgot how to play, but it would appear there is something bigger going on with coaching and player developmemt.

It's not unreasonable to suggest that just maybe Solder could be adequate under a different regime, and that maybe they should let a new regime evaluate him before eating the dead money and starting over (an overreaction).
Sure, coaching doesn't help  
Greg from LI : 12/10/2019 9:53 am : link
But, as Eric said, a guy who's been in the league for a decade doesn't just suddenly suck because of his OL coach. Truth is, he wasn't all that great to begin with.
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UConn4523 : 12/10/2019 9:53 am : link
In comment 14712253 Greg from LI said:
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Tell me, what is the appropriate level of reaction for a 2-11 debacle of a season?


Well there's kicking and screaming and then there's actual pragmatic ways of handling something.

Cutting him just because he sucks right now is very irrational. When he isn't the only OL sucking i'm guessing the problem isn't just with the individual player/s.
RE: Sure, coaching doesn't help  
UConn4523 : 12/10/2019 9:55 am : link
In comment 14712299 Greg from LI said:
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But, as Eric said, a guy who's been in the league for a decade doesn't just suddenly suck because of his OL coach. Truth is, he wasn't all that great to begin with.


And that might be true. But he also worked out fairly well in his career despite being a top LT. And that is precisely where coaching and scheme come into factor.

Hiring a new staff doesn't effect the cap, and that would be my first attempt at fixing the line prior to making any huge cuts that can do worse damage down the road.
Not a top LT  
UConn4523 : 12/10/2019 10:05 am : link
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I doubt Castonzo will hit the open market.  
cosmicj : 12/10/2019 10:18 am : link
He is a key component on one of the league’s best lines and the Colts have a ton of cap room.
RE: Watching Nate Solder and a TE double team the DE...  
Percy : 12/10/2019 1:05 pm : link
In comment 14711768 M.S. said:
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...priceless.

It was. Giants story in a bottle -- in a single botched play.
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