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Kimberly Jones summed it up well...

Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/10/2019 1:04 am
Kimberly Jones @KimJonesSports

The #NYG have no idea how to win.
Well said  
jcn56 : 12/10/2019 1:08 am : link
from top to bottom, doing their best Knicks impersonation.

Does Mara play a musical instrument?
'The #NYG have no idea how to win.'  
Torrag : 12/10/2019 1:09 am : link
Often the case with young rebuilding rosters. It takes time. It won't happen until Shurmur/Betccher are history. It's their job to show and lead the way. They are the losers.
Worse than not knowing how to win  
BlackLight : 12/10/2019 1:12 am : link
they've lost so many times, that even when they're playing well, if momentum starts to turn, they don't have the mental toughness to keep fighting.
Something that's bothered me...  
Danthebigbluefan : 12/10/2019 1:13 am : link
About this game, and another instance of questioning if PS is in over his head:

End of the game on 4th & 3 the Eagles appeared to be running the clock down before either kneeling or perhaps chucking up a Hail Mary?

Shurmur has 3 timeouts and waits until 19 seconds left to call a time out. 4th and 1 and 40 seconds left, Shurmur lets the clock wind down to 19 seconds instead of either immediately calling a time out. 21 seconds tick off the clock when it appeared the Eagles were willing to let time expire, then he calls a time out to get them to punt, and we have the ball with 10 seconds.

I don't even understand any logic in calling that time out. None.

If someone can explain it to me I'm ready to learn.
4th & 1*  
Danthebigbluefan : 12/10/2019 1:13 am : link
..
The Worst Giants football I’ve witnessed  
RELICDOA : 12/10/2019 1:15 am : link
In my life and it’s not even close! There is no way Shurmur can survive this train wreck! This team is so far away from being competitive it’s not even funny. Gettleman’s moves have not panned out. This team is historically bad! We have this saying in the corporate world....”fail fast” meaning cut your ties and move on quickly to get your shit right! Clean the entire house! Press the reset button.
45 seconds.  
Hsilwek92 : 12/10/2019 1:16 am : link
45 fucking seconds with 3 timeouts and he let it run.

Of course they don’t know how to win.
Kimberly Jones hit the nail on the head...  
M.S. : 12/10/2019 5:38 am : link

...the Giants have no idea how to win.

Leaderless
Incompetent
Futile
Uninspired

The New York LIFUs

In a league of their own.
RE: Something that's bothered me...  
Fred in Atlanta : 12/10/2019 6:41 am : link
In comment 14711701 Danthebigbluefan said:
Quote:
About this game, and another instance of questioning if PS is in over his head:

End of the game on 4th & 3 the Eagles appeared to be running the clock down before either kneeling or perhaps chucking up a Hail Mary?

Shurmur has 3 timeouts and waits until 19 seconds left to call a time out. 4th and 1 and 40 seconds left, Shurmur lets the clock wind down to 19 seconds instead of either immediately calling a time out. 21 seconds tick off the clock when it appeared the Eagles were willing to let time expire, then he calls a time out to get them to punt, and we have the ball with 10 seconds.

I don't even understand any logic in calling that time out. None.

If someone can explain it to me I'm ready to learn.
Should have called timeout right away. Also, for a second straight week they got caught off guard on sudden change. That is bad coaching.
In the preseason  
Giantimistic : 12/10/2019 7:09 am : link
After each game Shurmur would talk about the feeling of winning and learning how to win. I think he was really speaking to himself trying to convince himself they could win.0
This is a stunning display of how a franchise has completely lost its  
GiantBlue : 12/10/2019 7:10 am : link
way.......I knew at halftime that we were going to lose this game simply because we have seen it too many times before.

Eli trots out in the second half and get completely flustered by a coach who adjusts their defensive gameplan at halftime.

3 and out, 3 and out, 3 and out......completely puts the D on the field almost the whole second half and OT....They played their heart out on D, but even they were sapped by the notion that no-one on that team was going to keep the Eagles from winning.

That Eagles offense was dead in the water with very few weapons and a crowd that was booing them out of existence, yet they made the plays they needed to win....and the Giants drive home again losers.

The overhaul of this team from top down needs to be huge and sweeping...a complete change of philosophy...complete freedom to put a team out on the field that will conquer instead of being conquered...that will give their fans the thrill of competition again.

Last night I sat there not caring.....and as many wives have said to their husbands who cheat.....when we do not care anymore....it is over.
The coaching staff  
cjac : 12/10/2019 7:11 am : link
does not know how to adjust to adjustments
Yep, was thinking this last night  
Oscar : 12/10/2019 7:15 am : link
You know how Belichick and the Pats are always prepared, always in the game even if they are obviously overmatched in terms of raw talent? All these years and it’s still surprising, almost shocking, when they lose a game. They know how to win, they adjust and work at it until they get it right in game. They maximize their talent and any advantages they have.


With Shurmur it’s almost the complete opposite. I think it’s possible he could get this team to 9-7 or 10-6 if he had an unbelievable talent advantage, but he’s not making anyone better and he’s not winning any chess matches in game.

Might be a nice guy but he’s in over his head.
The players are playing hard  
Rjanyg : 12/10/2019 7:28 am : link
I honestly believe that. They just look unprepared at times and that falls on the coach.

How many times last night did you see the Philly play call end up being the perfect call against our defense? From mid 3rd quarter on, completely out coached.
Kim summed it up well.  
Ike#88 : 12/10/2019 7:28 am : link
Another thing this team does not have is a leader at the player level. They are a misfit toys collection out on the field trying not to run into each other.
That was as  
section125 : 12/10/2019 7:29 am : link
succinct as it gets. That is exactly what that was.
Every loss people go after DG  
djm : 12/10/2019 7:37 am : link
I have no doubt that the nyg players were good enough to win that game last night. And this isn’t the first time this season.

Also, the giants have lost 7 games this season to teams with sub 500 records. Maybe 6 but my god do we suck. This year’s schedule was cake.
They got some audio from the sidelines in the 4th Q  
cjac : 12/10/2019 7:38 am : link
"ok guys bring it in, its late in the game, we are up by one TD. Now here's what i want yo to do. They are injured, the only good player they have left is Zach Ertz. Make sure you cover the other guys and make Zach Ertz beat you. Just cover everyone else. Ok? Ready break"
Bad Coaches  
WillVAB : 12/10/2019 7:38 am : link
Can’t make the necessary adjustments.

Giants dominated the first half. Pederson adjusts and the coaching staff has no answer on either side of the ball.

Same story all season long. A good coaching staff has this Giants team leading the division right now.
...  
christian : 12/10/2019 7:42 am : link
The Giants are always right around the corner, the league is sleeping on them, just a player away, just a coach away.
RE: Something that's bothered me...  
JohnnyFlowers : 12/10/2019 9:17 am : link
In comment 14711701 Danthebigbluefan said:
Quote:
About this game, and another instance of questioning if PS is in over his head:

End of the game on 4th & 3 the Eagles appeared to be running the clock down before either kneeling or perhaps chucking up a Hail Mary?

Shurmur has 3 timeouts and waits until 19 seconds left to call a time out. 4th and 1 and 40 seconds left, Shurmur lets the clock wind down to 19 seconds instead of either immediately calling a time out. 21 seconds tick off the clock when it appeared the Eagles were willing to let time expire, then he calls a time out to get them to punt, and we have the ball with 10 seconds.

I don't even understand any logic in calling that time out. None.

If someone can explain it to me I'm ready to learn.


didn't hear our HOF coach explain afterwards that he tricked them into Punting cuz he called that TO. he is an absolute genius.
RE: Something that's bothered me...  
JohnnyFlowers : 12/10/2019 9:17 am : link
In comment 14711701 Danthebigbluefan said:
Quote:
About this game, and another instance of questioning if PS is in over his head:

End of the game on 4th & 3 the Eagles appeared to be running the clock down before either kneeling or perhaps chucking up a Hail Mary?

Shurmur has 3 timeouts and waits until 19 seconds left to call a time out. 4th and 1 and 40 seconds left, Shurmur lets the clock wind down to 19 seconds instead of either immediately calling a time out. 21 seconds tick off the clock when it appeared the Eagles were willing to let time expire, then he calls a time out to get them to punt, and we have the ball with 10 seconds.

I don't even understand any logic in calling that time out. None.

If someone can explain it to me I'm ready to learn.


didn't hear our HOF coach explain afterwards that he tricked them into Punting cuz he called that TO. he is an absolute genius.
RE: The players are playing hard  
gmenatlarge : 12/10/2019 9:29 am : link
In comment 14711855 Rjanyg said:
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I honestly believe that. They just look unprepared at times and that falls on the coach.

How many times last night did you see the Philly play call end up being the perfect call against our defense? From mid 3rd quarter on, completely out coached.


I noticed that also they ran screens to beat the blitz perfectly.
Pretty sure I saw an interview of LT  
Steve in ATL : 12/10/2019 9:30 am : link
where he said that when he came to the Giants they didn't know how to win. They weren't having fun. LT set out to change that. The Giants need a strong, hungry leader on this team.
RE: Every loss people go after DG  
gmenatlarge : 12/10/2019 9:31 am : link
In comment 14711874 djm said:
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I have no doubt that the nyg players were good enough to win that game last night. And this isn’t the first time this season.

Also, the giants have lost 7 games this season to teams with sub 500 records. Maybe 6 but my god do we suck. This year’s schedule was cake.


Were you watching that O-line performance, zero run blocking all game, zero pass pro in the second half.
Shurmur should be fired this morning.  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 12/10/2019 9:31 am : link
He is embarrassingly inept.
Worse than everything that was previously mentioned here...  
EricJ : 12/10/2019 9:34 am : link
winning to this organization now is something as simple as short lived improvement. OR, a half game of decent football.
RE: Every loss people go after DG  
Greg from LI : 12/10/2019 9:35 am : link
In comment 14711874 djm said:
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I have no doubt that the nyg players were good enough to win that game last night.


Your hero is really bad at his job.
and more than once  
liteamorn : 12/10/2019 9:38 am : link
The camera was on Shurmur and his eyes were agog like WTF?
And  
liteamorn : 12/10/2019 9:41 am : link
Pederson was actually laughing after the final play
RE: And  
cjac : 12/10/2019 9:48 am : link
In comment 14712249 liteamorn said:
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Pederson was actually laughing after the final play


They forgot to cover the best player on the field

it was laughable
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