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Last night was a micrcosim of Eli's last 6-7 years

NewBlue : 12/10/2019 8:32 am
He used to be the guy that would bring us back during 4th quarter deficits, he used exude a confidence that his players would pick up on, he was a winner.

4-11 for 24 yards in the second half?
I give no props to the defensive which gave up 3 consecutive game winning scores to a team that had a foot and a half in the grave, but all we needed were some first downs in the second half, he was not under tremendous pressure, there were not ugly drops.

The bar has been set very low for Manning in recent years, it's the O Lines fault, horrible play calling, bad drops.
He made 2 great throws to Slayton last night, you get paid in this league to win, sometimes against all odds, we know the excuses, but I for one would be shocked if some team offers him a starting job next year.

Thanks Eli, can't wait to show up when the give you a night at MetLife but Mara's loyalty set us back many years
Huh??  
Johnny5 : 12/10/2019 8:45 am : link
Not sure what your point even is? We lost 8 games in a row before last night with Eli holding a clipboard. This team sucks ass and it has for years. We wasted ELi's best years with shit talent around him, since 2012.

Not even sure what you are trying to say? Did you Watch the OL last night? Did you watch Solder tripping over the TE that was there to help him block the DE that end up sacking the QB?

We have not had a good coach since Coughlin. We fire a crappy coach in McAdoo and somehow, someway... we hire an even WORSE HC.

This team has been a dumpster fire since 2012 and it doesn't have everything to do with Eli.
I agree  
Chip : 12/10/2019 8:45 am : link
he should have fired Reese a long time ago or never should have hired him to begin with. Your not going to win playing this many rookies at the same time. Time to build the roster back up and hopefully it starts with Chase.
Johnny 5  
NewBlue : 12/10/2019 8:49 am : link
Did you watch that sack?
Curry barely touched him, and the OL pass protection was quite good last night, Manning missed some throws that would have kept some second quarter drives going
You're right it was  
Thankyoueli : 12/10/2019 8:54 am : link
People will acknowledge the fact that the oline was AWFUL, the receivers were AWFUL, the run game was literally non existent, the play calling was AWFUL and the defense was all over nearly everything we were trying to do.

They will acknowledge this, and still wonder why the QB cant produce... all that is just excuses, a good QB would tell the playcaller to get fucked "I'm the coach now". And when 2 free rushers get through the line he would hee-man flex and send them flying. Than he would run 50 yards down the field, breaking 7 tackles on his way, and gently hand the ball to his WR for a touchdown. I think that's the minimum expectation for a good QB.

IQ: single digits

Your right to free speech should be revoked by the supreme court.

Eli is the only one who took the field last night, if you think PRIME Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, or anybody else wouldve made any difference I feel bad for you.

Basic stats like comp% is a culmination of the offense as a whole including the playcalling. 90% of those passes were accurately executed and delivered, nobody caught it. Clearly the QBs fault, he couldve um... well you can take it from here. Exactly what could have he done differently?
I watch Brady go down like that every week  
BBelle21 : 12/10/2019 8:59 am : link
Not sure why some need the QB to get crushed. We’ve all been watching what happens with this Oline when the QB holds onto the ball and doesn’t go down wisely. The ball gets fumbled.
The criticism of Eli for things so beyond his control  
Thankyoueli : 12/10/2019 8:59 am : link
By people who have never put on pads in their life... I will not miss at all.
thankyoueli  
NewBlue : 12/10/2019 9:01 am : link
Says it all in your handle...he is a G-D to you.

You think we are the only team with a suck-ass OL?
My sense was we did not even need points in the second half just more first downs.

Look, I will always hold Manning in the highest regard he represented the Giants with class, but through so many different OL's, WR's...RB's. coaches and coordinators one thing was a constant for the last 7 years
RE: I watch Brady go down like that every week  
Thankyoueli : 12/10/2019 9:02 am : link
In comment 14712061 BBelle21 said:
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Not sure why some need the QB to get crushed. We’ve all been watching what happens with this Oline when the QB holds onto the ball and doesn’t go down wisely. The ball gets fumbled.


I've seen Brady do it prematurely, because the place such a high emphasis on ball security.

Because smart footbal > hero ball that the 13 year old fans clamor for
Let’s move on from Eli  
5BowlsSoon : 12/10/2019 9:05 am : link
Thank you for your faithful service and for guiding us to two Superbowls. You are almost 40 so it’s time to part ways. I hope you find another gig, but I doubt there are many other teams who want a 40 year old qb to lead them.

RE: thankyoueli  
5BowlsSoon : 12/10/2019 9:08 am : link
In comment 14712066 NewBlue said:
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Says it all in your handle...he is a G-D to you.

You think we are the only team with a suck-ass OL?
My sense was we did not even need points in the second half just more first downs.

Look, I will always hold Manning in the highest regard he represented the Giants with class, but through so many different OL's, WR's...RB's. coaches and coordinators one thing was a constant for the last 7 years


Clearly thankyoueli is a coward to face us with his real name so don’t even waste your time trying to convince him his time has passed. He obviously wants to live in the past, not the present or future. Let him ........
RE: Johnny 5  
Johnny5 : 12/10/2019 9:27 am : link
In comment 14712032 NewBlue said:
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Did you watch that sack?
Curry barely touched him, and the OL pass protection was quite good last night, Manning missed some throws that would have kept some second quarter drives going

The OL protection was quite good last night... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yeah it's been fantastic every week for Daniel Jones too.

RE: The criticism of Eli for things so beyond his control  
Mad Mike : 12/10/2019 9:31 am : link
In comment 14712062 Thankyoueli said:
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By people who have never put on pads in their life... I will not miss at all.

I hear that. I similarly won't miss the lack of criticism by some of Eli for things he is eminently responsible for. (Not really sure what having worn pads has to do with it, but carry on).
RE: You're right it was  
Gettledogman : 12/10/2019 9:53 am : link
In comment 14712046 Thankyoueli said:
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People will acknowledge the fact that the oline was AWFUL, the receivers were AWFUL, the run game was literally non existent, the play calling was AWFUL and the defense was all over nearly everything we were trying to do.

They will acknowledge this, and still wonder why the QB cant produce... all that is just excuses, a good QB would tell the playcaller to get fucked "I'm the coach now". And when 2 free rushers get through the line he would hee-man flex and send them flying. Than he would run 50 yards down the field, breaking 7 tackles on his way, and gently hand the ball to his WR for a touchdown. I think that's the minimum expectation for a good QB.

IQ: single digits

Your right to free speech should be revoked by the supreme court.

Eli is the only one who took the field last night, if you think PRIME Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, or anybody else wouldve made any difference I feel bad for you.

Basic stats like comp% is a culmination of the offense as a whole including the playcalling. 90% of those passes were accurately executed and delivered, nobody caught it. Clearly the QBs fault, he couldve um... well you can take it from here. Exactly what could have he done differently?


Amen.
Eli gave the team a 2 score lead  
Gettledogman : 12/10/2019 9:55 am : link
Nice D you have there. D and OL has been the problem since 2011
Eli is good enough to win...  
Britt in VA : 12/10/2019 9:58 am : link
but he's not good enough to do it on his own.

17-3 lead at halftime, with halfway decent coaching and defense should be enough.

But no... Eli was required to do it all on his own and he couldn't.

That's the story on Eli the past couple of years. No run game, no defense, and shit coaching. But yeah, it's all his fault.
In regards to the "he used to bring us back in the 4th" comment....  
Britt in VA : 12/10/2019 10:11 am : link
He never got the chance last night. Murmur bungled the final minute of the game with 3 timeouts. Disgraceful.
RE: Eli gave the team a 2 score lead  
rsjem1979 : 12/10/2019 10:14 am : link
In comment 14712305 Gettledogman said:
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Nice D you have there. D and OL has been the problem since 2011


17 points is not enough to win in the NFL and hasn't been for quite some time. The Giants had five possessions with the lead in the 2nd half and gained a total of 12 yards.
Shurmur took the ball out of Eli's and Barkleys hands last night  
PatersonPlank : 12/10/2019 10:35 am : link
This is on Shurmur. Also taking the sack, or the occasional throw away, was the right play and the veteran move. All the vets do it, don't take the hit and move on to the next play. Otherwise you end up with turnovers and injuries. Jones still needs to learn this
Eli  
Geno 78 : 12/10/2019 10:42 am : link
The 1st series of the 2nd half Eli over threw wide open Shepard on 3rd down. Every thing went down hill after that. It is time for him to Retire.
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