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Can someone explain why they don’t run screens to Saquon?

Jim from Katonah : 12/10/2019 8:51 am
Every team does it ... big orchestrated power screen ... undrafted JAG Boston Scott looked like Brian Westbrook running them ... meanwhile Saquon had 1 catch (on the desperation flea flicker flip) ....there’s gotta be a football reason right why we don’t get our blazing fast 230lb star running back a running start ....

It can’t possibly be just stupidity? Can it?
No idea...  
nzyme : 12/10/2019 8:53 am : link
Philly ran like 10 screen last night and executed on almost all of them. Drives me crazy. Coaching.
Our play calling sucks  
superspynyg : 12/10/2019 8:53 am : link
If the def doesn’t fall down we can’t do crap
Two main reasons  
jvm52106 : 12/10/2019 8:53 am : link
we suck at screens and with our Oline they can get there with 4 guys and thus a free guy to automatically go to wherever SB is...
No idea.  
section125 : 12/10/2019 8:56 am : link
I just don't get it.
I thought they did (at least once) and it was a hot mess  
sb from NYT Forum : 12/10/2019 8:56 am : link
...that was sniffed out immediately for like a 1 yard gain.
THey  
uther99 : 12/10/2019 8:57 am : link
are never blocked properly, usually SB alone vs 3 defenders
I would love to have an offense that uses him creatively like  
Heisenberg : 12/10/2019 8:58 am : link
the run in San Fran or Baltimore with the run game.
RE: No idea.  
Jim from Katonah : 12/10/2019 9:01 am : link
In comment 14712049 section125 said:
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I just don't get it.


Screens are a staple of every good offense ... the Saints, Chiefs, the Pats with James White ... I’m just at a loss. I want to say Shurmur and Shula are dumb blah blah ... but it’s almost too simplistic to conceive ... they’ve had a relatively healthy OL too and in week 14 they can’t get even attempt one screen?
The coaching is garbage.  
Mr. Bungle : 12/10/2019 9:04 am : link
That's why.
I cannot stand this team  
mattlawson : 12/10/2019 9:05 am : link
We are slogging through mud up hill while the other team just shreds right through us downhill
Better question  
Anakim : 12/10/2019 9:08 am : link
Why don't they fucking run wheel routes with Saquon
Ron Rivera might be good here  
5BowlsSoon : 12/10/2019 9:09 am : link
His coaches know how to get Ed Mccafrey the ball in space.
RE: Better question  
Jim from Katonah : 12/10/2019 9:13 am : link
In comment 14712090 Anakim said:
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Why don't they fucking run wheel routes with Saquon


It can’t just be that the coaching is inept right? Can it? Maybe it is. Depressing.
The O-line is incapable  
gmenatlarge : 12/10/2019 9:13 am : link
of pulling off a screen. The defense knows when this O-line is setting up a screen because they can't pass block at all so when they don't really try you can smell it out a mile away!!!
cause  
liteamorn : 12/10/2019 9:14 am : link
the coaches spent the week working on that "Flea flicker"
Probably because they don't trust the OL  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/10/2019 9:18 am : link
to make that play.

Because the Giants D  
David B. : 12/10/2019 9:20 am : link
can't stop it in practice.

And it doesn't have to be Barkley. They couldn't stop it if Gettleman was the receiver.
RE: The O-line is incapable  
Jim from Katonah : 12/10/2019 9:20 am : link
In comment 14712119 gmenatlarge said:
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of pulling off a screen. The defense knows when this O-line is setting up a screen because they can't pass block at all so when they don't really try you can smell it out a mile away!!!


Oyy. Every good team has a little pass catching scatback who comes in for a few plays, and is an easy outlet for the QB .. it’s 2019 and our RBs had 1 total catch!!
RE: Two main reasons  
rnargi : 12/10/2019 9:37 am : link
In comment 14712043 jvm52106 said:
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we suck at screens and with our Oline they can get there with 4 guys and thus a free guy to automatically go to wherever SB is...


They ran one to him on the second play of the game. NOT A SINGLE FUCKING LINEMAN GOT AHEAD OF HIM. He literally faced THREE defenders with NO ONE TO BLOCK.

THAT'S why.
3 receptions  
BigBlueinChicago : 12/10/2019 9:40 am : link
1 total yard for Barkley

This was against an Eagles defense that in the first half was ready to quit.
Last night the answer was pretty simple,  
RDJR : 12/10/2019 9:41 am : link
Eli has never been able to throw an effective screen pass. With Jones we've seen some, but the blocking is always horrible.
Last night the answer was pretty simple,  
RDJR : 12/10/2019 9:41 am : link
Eli has never been able to throw an effective screen pass. With Jones we've seen some, but the blocking is always horrible.
Can you imagine  
blueblood'11 : 12/10/2019 9:44 am : link
if Barkley was in the Eagles back field last night. He would have had 300 yards from scrimmage.
They tried  
dlauster : 12/10/2019 9:46 am : link
a flea flicker screen last night that I thought was pretty awesome!
RE: RE: Two main reasons  
Jim from Katonah : 12/10/2019 10:09 am : link
In comment 14712226 rnargi said:
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In comment 14712043 jvm52106 said:


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we suck at screens and with our Oline they can get there with 4 guys and thus a free guy to automatically go to wherever SB is...



They ran one to him on the second play of the game. NOT A SINGLE FUCKING LINEMAN GOT AHEAD OF HIM. He literally faced THREE defenders with NO ONE TO BLOCK.

THAT'S why.


It’s just shocking. It’s a largely healthy OL too ... it’s disorienting how inept they are.
screens work  
Ron Johnson : 12/10/2019 10:37 am : link
when the defense is having trouble generating a pass rush and are having to compromise the second level of their pass d to get home.

that is seldom the case for teams playing the G's
Shurmur has no feel for the game thats why, teams that have great  
Zeke's Alibi : 12/10/2019 10:40 am : link
offenses can run screens whenever they want, but for everyone else you need to have a feel for when other teams are going to blitz. Since teams don't need to blitz to beat our oline they rarely work.
RE: screens work  
Zeke's Alibi : 12/10/2019 10:40 am : link
In comment 14712440 Ron Johnson said:
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when the defense is having trouble generating a pass rush and are having to compromise the second level of their pass d to get home.

that is seldom the case for teams playing the G's


This is the main problem.
RE: screens work  
Jim from Katonah : 12/10/2019 11:19 am : link
In comment 14712440 Ron Johnson said:
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when the defense is having trouble generating a pass rush and are having to compromise the second level of their pass d to get home.

that is seldom the case for teams playing the G's


That’s a good answer, thx.
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