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ryanmkeane : 12/10/2019 9:29 am
Once we get a good coaching staff in here, it seems that we do have some talent on the young defense. Lawrence, Baker, Beal, and Love all flashed last night, save for the one bad play by Beal. What strikes me about Beal is he actually has the look and feel of a confident NFL CB out there. He should be starting with Baker the rest of the way with Jenkins in the slot. Get these guys some more experience. Baker has been very inconsistent but has been improving as of late, with a new coaching staff he could really flourish.

If we don't have to empty the truck for Williams, he should be re-signed. With him and Lawrence up front, hopefully a pass rusher in the draft, we can focus on LB in free agency/mid rounds to improve that area.

We certainly have needs all over, but the first half last night (and parts of the second half quite frankly) gave us a glimpse of what this young D could be next year and beyond.
On the bright side...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/10/2019 9:32 am : link
This godforsaken season ends in 19 days. 456 hours. 2 weeks & 5 days.
there's a sucker born every minute  
Greg from LI : 12/10/2019 9:32 am : link
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Slayton  
penkap75 : 12/10/2019 9:37 am : link
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Greg  
ryanmkeane : 12/10/2019 9:37 am : link
you didn't think the young guys on defense played well for most of the game?
Ximines had a good evening as well  
Rjanyg : 12/10/2019 9:37 am : link
There were times we had 4 rookies and Beal on the field at the same time. These guys are getting valuable playing time and have shown they have talent.

I can't remember a time when so many rookies were starting and getting major reps. Add Jones and Slayton and even Connelly to that list.

I like many of our young players. I am hoping we can add some play makers in 2020. It might make enough of a difference.
That us corner rotation i wamted since Beal return  
George from PA : 12/10/2019 9:39 am : link
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They need the impact difference maker at Edge  
JonC : 12/10/2019 9:39 am : link
and some heart up front.
I don't know what you were watching  
gmenatlarge : 12/10/2019 9:40 am : link
with Beal, he was dreadful, and covering another backup. The Eagles targeted him on 3 consecutive plays, he did NOT look like an NFL CB by any means!
RE: I don't know what you were watching  
ryanmkeane : 12/10/2019 9:42 am : link
In comment 14712243 gmenatlarge said:
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with Beal, he was dreadful, and covering another backup. The Eagles targeted him on 3 consecutive plays, he did NOT look like an NFL CB by any means!

The defense was on the field for the entire second half. Beal played well before the one bad holding play where he got beat/got still caught it.
The only bright side  
Biteymax22 : 12/10/2019 10:20 am : link
Is that this team didn't go on a 4 game run to end the season, thus giving ownership hope and stopping them from making the changes necessary to get this franchise back to winning consistently.
RE: Greg  
Greg from LI : 12/10/2019 10:53 am : link
In comment 14712228 ryanmkeane said:
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you didn't think the young guys on defense played well for most of the game?


Not really, no. The Eagles were playing waiver wire guys at RB and WR and lost Lane Johnson during the game.
RE: RE: Greg  
HomerJones45 : 12/10/2019 11:18 am : link
In comment 14712499 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14712228 ryanmkeane said:


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you didn't think the young guys on defense played well for most of the game?



Not really, no. The Eagles were playing waiver wire guys at RB and WR and lost Lane Johnson during the game.
Let's not make excuses: the Eagles offensive star was a PS player they called up and they carved up this defense on two straight td drives despite having 1 wideout capable of playing. Our back 7 is probably the worst in football.

But wait, there's more. Slayton totally disappeared in the second half and dropped a first down throw (will PFF count that as a "drop") that hit him in the hands. But he's a rookie so I give him a pass. Tate, our "#1 receiver" and a star in the Dave G free agent firmament disappeared the entire game. Compounding the lack of speed and talent are the comedy stylings of our HC as expressed through his playcalling.

This is an awful team, well deserving of its 2-9 record (thank you Tampa), and Shurmur and Gettleman should both be shown the door.
I'm as negative as anyone about the Giants  
bceagle05 : 12/10/2019 11:23 am : link
but I'd be interested to see what a good defensive coach could do with this young talent:

Chase Young
Dexter Lawrence
Dalvin Tomlinson
Leonard Williams
Ryan Connelly
DeAndre Baker
Sam Beal
Julian Love

It can't be emphasized enough how awful Shurmur and Bettcher are. Not defending Gettleman at all - he had a hand in hiring these morons - but it's fair to say a better coach could make something of that group.
Sam Beal...."talent"  
Greg from LI : 12/10/2019 12:22 pm : link
Very droll. He was garbage last night against total scrubs.
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