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Flea Flicker on 3rd and long...

Amtoft : 12/10/2019 12:26 pm
I don't care what the announcers says. The safety in the middle of the field bit hard and there was a wide open WR running down the middle of the field. Of course Soldier was so pathetic on the play Eli had to just shovel it, but man that was a TD if Soldier doesn't look so horrible falling down!
Yup  
Thankyoueli : 12/10/2019 12:30 pm : link
Booger caught himself and cut himself off as he watched the replay lol

"What are you expecting? The DBs to come...."

Shockingly the draw up worked. Nasty Nate single handedly blew it. He has no business being a starter, get the 6m back eat the dead money and get rid of the dead weight. Hes a liability and I have zero doubt Nick Gates could play better or at least the same.
that would have been  
cjac : 12/10/2019 12:30 pm : link
an easy TD

Tate was behind the defense

but ya know, you gotta block it too
OMG  
jvm52106 : 12/10/2019 12:31 pm : link
you don't call that play in an obvious passing down with DE's rushing up the field already!!!!! My god, it doesn't matter about anything else.
i thought it was crazy at first  
Platos : 12/10/2019 12:34 pm : link
until i saw a replay. i believe 2 other teams did it with success against this same eagles team, the pats being one of them.

its just sad we ran the SAME play they got burned on twice this season.

we're literally looking at what other teams do instead of having our own identity. we still can't run a decent screen.

Yup, I saw that immediately  
Geomon : 12/10/2019 12:36 pm : link
But since we have no edge protection...there you go
Good catch  
5BowlsSoon : 12/10/2019 12:45 pm : link
Many here judged the play without all the facts. Yes, the safety bit and Tate was wide open...wide open. With time we had a td.
Would have been a TD to Tate  
90.Cal : 12/10/2019 12:45 pm : link
If Eli had just 1 second to throw it... I wonder how many easy TDs Eli could have had over the last 3 years if it weren't for an awful play in pass protection. I recall a handful of times Eli loading up the deep ball to a man breaking wide open deep just to get strip sacked and/or sacked...
Honestly  
Amtoft : 12/10/2019 12:48 pm : link
Erik Flowers played better than Soldier did last night. He has been so bad. I mean he had help on the play and falls down.
RE: OMG  
Rjanyg : 12/10/2019 12:52 pm : link
In comment 14712864 jvm52106 said:
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you don't call that play in an obvious passing down with DE's rushing up the field already!!!!! My god, it doesn't matter about anything else.


This. It just goes to show the coach doesn't think about the mentality of the defense. Eagles DE's are notorious of just pinning their ears back and rushing the pass first then stop the run. On 3rd and long we are better off just max protecting and throwing deep than flee flicker shit.
RE: OMG  
Thankyoueli : 12/10/2019 1:12 pm : link
In comment 14712864 jvm52106 said:
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you don't call that play in an obvious passing down with DE's rushing up the field already!!!!! My god, it doesn't matter about anything else.


Except 3rd and 16 is not an obvious passing down...

Many teams run the ball and play for the punt. Despite BBI's view it's very common and isnt exclusive to Kevin Gillbride lol

It was a good play call, they rarely happen for us. But to bitch about a play that 100% shouldve worked is bitching just for the sake of bitching. I hate Shurmur as much as anybody here, but anyone who understands strategy can see it was shockingly a pretty good idea.

And even if the pass rushers were pinning their ears back, which would be highly undiscliplined of them in that situation (that's how a draw goes for 20), theres never any excuse for your LT to get beat that badly.

This is people just stuck in whine-mode which I cant blame them for but none the less that's the reality.
RE: OMG  
Bernie : 12/10/2019 1:28 pm : link
In comment 14712864 jvm52106 said:
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you don't call that play in an obvious passing down with DE's rushing up the field already!!!!! My god, it doesn't matter about anything else.


Except it worked. If Nate Solder was not a turnstyle, its an easy TD and the Giants win.

So in the end, the greater good for the long term prevailed. But to say it was a bad call is not quite right.
That play felt...  
x meadowlander : 12/10/2019 1:42 pm : link
...like someone lost a bet.

WTF?

FWIW, I LOVE trick plays. Miss HB Options.
See it for yourself...  
rnargi : 12/10/2019 2:40 pm : link
if not for Solder, it's most likely a walk in TD


RE: See it for yourself...  
rnargi : 12/10/2019 2:40 pm : link
In comment 14713159 rnargi said:
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if not for Solder, it's most likely a walk in TD



Dammit...see lonk
lonk - ( New Window )
RE: Honestly  
Brown Recluse : 12/10/2019 2:45 pm : link
In comment 14712918 Amtoft said:
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Erik Flowers played better than Soldier did last night. He has been so bad. I mean he had help on the play and falls down.


I mean thats actually not true but we're probably splitting hairs.
What happened  
DRich1980 : 12/10/2019 3:51 pm : link
To Nate Solder this guy is terrible, it was a 3 man rush all he had to do is push his guy up field or push inside to Hernandez so he can get some help .
Shurmur should take into account  
santacruzom : 12/10/2019 3:58 pm : link
the fact that his plays rely upon Solder being a capable blocking. Therefore, all of his playcalls should be QB kneels, a la The Waterboy.
Fucking Solder  
Geomon : 12/10/2019 4:15 pm : link


Fucking bum, piece of shit, fucking marshmallow fuck
Solder missed a day of practice this week  
exiled : 12/10/2019 4:27 pm : link
for family reasons. I know one of his kids have (or had) cancer. Total, total speculation and I hope I’m wrong, but he may be playing with some distraction.

Or maybe I’m just looking too hard for an explanation for his crappy performance this season.
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