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giant power : 12/10/2019 3:13 pm
yankee's offer to Cole official according to ESPN.
No details, just a story about how the Yanks offered more  
mfsd : 12/10/2019 3:19 pm : link
than Strasburg got. IMO simply Boras using the media to try and get others to jump in or up their offers
What does it mean the Yanks offer to Cole is official?  
robbieballs2003 : 12/10/2019 3:36 pm : link
I know we are all excited and hope the Yanks land him but is this really news?
Who knows  
PaulN : 12/10/2019 3:42 pm : link
I guarantee the Yanks offer is plenty, plus I am certain if he really wants to be here and he wanted a little more, they would go further, the entire thing is if he is using the Yanks or not and if he does not sign, don't blame the Yanks. It just means he never wanted to be here and that they can not control. But if they are used by Boras, that is something that will burn them. He cried for the Yanks to get involved, he said Cole was a perfect fit. We will see if he is a liar.
Good luck to Yankee fans on Cole. You certainly have a very good shot.  
Ira : 12/10/2019 3:54 pm : link
I'm guessing Bumgarner is the fall back option which wouldn't be too shabby.
This shit  
Thankyoueli : 12/10/2019 4:05 pm : link
Is killing me.
RE: Good luck to Yankee fans on Cole. You certainly have a very good shot.  
section125 : 12/10/2019 4:41 pm : link
In comment 14713385 Ira said:
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I'm guessing Bumgarner is the fall back option which wouldn't be too shabby.


I wouldn't waste their money on Madbum. That is a long step down. Would probably better with Keuchel.
RE: RE: Good luck to Yankee fans on Cole. You certainly have a very good shot.  
robbieballs2003 : 12/10/2019 4:49 pm : link
In comment 14713494 section125 said:
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I'm guessing Bumgarner is the fall back option which wouldn't be too shabby.



I wouldn't waste their money on Madbum. That is a long step down. Would probably better with Keuchel.


What is the deal with Ryu? He had a monster year last year.
Axisa said he heard the initial offer is 8/292  
Greg from LI : 12/10/2019 4:57 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: Good luck to Yankee fans on Cole. You certainly have a very good shot.  
Greg from LI : 12/10/2019 4:59 pm : link
In comment 14713509 robbieballs2003 said:
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What is the deal with Ryu? He had a monster year last year.


Ryu is excellent but has a scary injury history. Missed all of 2015 and almost all of 2016, was limited to 15 starts in 2018.
FWIW Sherman says the Astros are Heyman's mystery team  
Greg from LI : 12/10/2019 5:03 pm : link
Not sure I buy it, but whatever.
RE: Axisa said he heard the initial offer is 8/292  
section125 : 12/10/2019 5:03 pm : link
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They are not dicking around are they?
no, they don't seem to be  
Greg from LI : 12/10/2019 5:06 pm : link
To come out with a first offer just under $300M is aggressive enough for me. Boras is gonna push for $300+ and I have to figure they'll be willing to go there given the initial offer.
Boras loves to talk without saying much  
Greg from LI : 12/10/2019 5:13 pm : link
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Here is what Scott Boras said when I asked how "close" were the Gerrit Cole negotiations: "'Close' has a broad definition but were certainly well into the negotiation process to where you can say you can potentially see a finish line." https://es.pn/2P7PCHo

1:55 PM - 10 Dec 2019
RE: FWIW Sherman says the Astros are Heyman's mystery team  
Tesla : 12/10/2019 5:23 pm : link
In comment 14713525 Greg from LI said:
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Not sure I buy it, but whatever.


That would be the absolute disaster scenario for Yankees. They lose out and Cole and he returns to the Astros.

I think even if they lose Cole to anyone other than the Astros the Yankees would be pretty strong favorites to with the AL this year. But if Cole returns to the Stros they would be the heave favorites to reign in the AL once again :(.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Good luck to Yankee fans on Cole. You certainly have a very good shot.  
robbieballs2003 : 12/10/2019 5:25 pm : link
In comment 14713521 Greg from LI said:
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What is the deal with Ryu? He had a monster year last year.



Ryu is excellent but has a scary injury history. Missed all of 2015 and almost all of 2016, was limited to 15 starts in 2018.


Absolutely. I was just wondering what the rumors are with him in terms of landing spot and contract.
RE: Axisa said he heard the initial offer is 8/292  
Tesla : 12/10/2019 5:25 pm : link
In comment 14713518 Greg from LI said:
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I think the first offer was 7/245, and this is likely a counter-offer or a second offer depending on how Boras is conducting the negotiations.
RE: RE: Axisa said he heard the initial offer is 8/292  
section125 : 12/10/2019 5:36 pm : link
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I think the first offer was 7/245, and this is likely a counter-offer or a second offer depending on how Boras is conducting the negotiations.


That 7/245 was debunked about 2 hours after reported. So yes it was reported but without proof, then disputed..
hmmm...  
Strahan91 : 12/10/2019 5:37 pm : link
Fabian Ardaya
@FabianArdaya
The Angels have traded Zack Cozart and Will Wilson to the Giants for cash and a PBTNL, source tells The Athletic.
and didi signed with Philly  
Strahan91 : 12/10/2019 5:39 pm : link
. no word on $ or years
RE: hmmm...  
section125 : 12/10/2019 5:39 pm : link
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Fabian Ardaya
@FabianArdaya
The Angels have traded Zack Cozart and Will Wilson to the Giants for cash and a PBTNL, source tells The Athletic.


Moreno vs Steinbrenner in a bidding war..
Angels are in on Rendon, too.  
bceagle05 : 12/10/2019 5:40 pm : link
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RE: Angels are in on Rendon, too.  
section125 : 12/10/2019 5:52 pm : link
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Artie is no messing around at all.
As much as I want Cole to lead our staff  
dune69 : 12/10/2019 6:01 pm : link
I would not blame the Yanks if they walk away when bids get above $300m. The bids may never get beyond that point but the risk of injury for starters is real and the money is getting crazy. Having said this, hope he's a Yank soon.
RE: hmmm...  
Tesla : 12/10/2019 6:08 pm : link
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Fabian Ardaya
@FabianArdaya
The Angels have traded Zack Cozart and Will Wilson to the Giants for cash and a PBTNL, source tells The Athletic.


Shiznit. They just dumped $12M in salary.
RE: RE: hmmm...  
Dave in Hoboken : 12/10/2019 6:12 pm : link
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Fabian Ardaya
@FabianArdaya
The Angels have traded Zack Cozart and Will Wilson to the Giants for cash and a PBTNL, source tells The Athletic.



Shiznit. They just dumped $12M in salary.


For Rendon.
RE: RE: RE: hmmm...  
Giantz_comeback : 12/10/2019 6:44 pm : link
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Fabian Ardaya
@FabianArdaya
The Angels have traded Zack Cozart and Will Wilson to the Giants for cash and a PBTNL, source tells The Athletic.



Shiznit. They just dumped $12M in salary.



For Rendon.

Apparently a guy who got some info posted on Reddit and said a few things 5-6 hours ago - that the Angels were out on Cole and that they were going to trade Cozart to SF. Also said they may try to trade for Price.
RE: RE: hmmm...  
Hsilwek92 : 12/10/2019 7:18 pm : link
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Fabian Ardaya
@FabianArdaya
The Angels have traded Zack Cozart and Will Wilson to the Giants for cash and a PBTNL, source tells The Athletic.



Moreno vs Steinbrenner in a bidding war..


Doubtful. The Dodgers and Yankees offer more than just money, they offer a chance at actually winning. The Angels do not.
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Strahan91 : 12/10/2019 7:20 pm : link
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Fabian Ardaya
@FabianArdaya
The Angels have traded Zack Cozart and Will Wilson to the Giants for cash and a PBTNL, source tells The Athletic.



Shiznit. They just dumped $12M in salary.



For Rendon.


Apparently a guy who got some info posted on Reddit and said a few things 5-6 hours ago - that the Angels were out on Cole and that they were going to trade Cozart to SF. Also said they may try to trade for Price.

I saw this too and interestingly Passan just tweeted:


Jeff Passan
@JeffPassan

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The Boston Red Sox continue to pursue ways to shed salary, and multiple teams have targeted starter David Price, sources tell ESPN. He is owed $96 million over the next three years. Red Sox could either attach player with value or potentially pay down some of Price's remaining $.
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section125 : 12/10/2019 7:25 pm : link
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Fabian Ardaya
@FabianArdaya
The Angels have traded Zack Cozart and Will Wilson to the Giants for cash and a PBTNL, source tells The Athletic.



Moreno vs Steinbrenner in a bidding war..



Doubtful. The Dodgers and Yankees offer more than just money, they offer a chance at actually winning. The Angels do not.


You add Cole, Rendon and a couple pieces and the Angels will win enough for playoff...
Price to the Angels?  
Dave in Hoboken : 12/10/2019 7:35 pm : link
Fabian Ardaya
@FabianArdaya

18m
David Price pitched for Joe Maddon in Tampa Bay

Would make a lot of sense for the Angels if theyre willing to eat some of the money.
Passan said alittle while ago  
Dave in Hoboken : 12/10/2019 9:25 pm : link
that literally everyone at the Winter Meetings that he's spoken to believes Cole will be a Yankee. Twitter video of him saying it linked below:
Everyone Passan has spoken to at Winter Meetings believes Cole will be a Yankee - ( New Window )
Apparently the Yankees invited Pettitte to their meeting with Cole  
Greg from LI : 12/10/2019 10:19 pm : link
Because they knew he was one of Cole's favorite players as a kid, according to Boone.

Boone also said that while Mike Ford will be "in the mix"  
Greg from LI : 12/10/2019 10:21 pm : link
he expects Voit to be "an impact player"
I'm guessing Cole is locked in  
bceagle05 : 12/10/2019 10:28 pm : link
but Boras wants to bask in a couple of press conferences before the announcement. Leak a couple of "mystery teams" to his lapdog Heyman to add to the drama.
oh, and going back to that "Astros are going hard after Cole story"  
Greg from LI : 12/10/2019 10:59 pm : link
According to Rosenthal, the Astros' payroll situation is bad enough already that they have considered trading Correa.

I don't know for a fact that Cole will be a Yankee, but he's not staying in Houston.
Heyman is so fucking useless...  
bceagle05 : 12/10/2019 11:03 pm : link
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Gerrit Cole sweepstakes appear to be heading toward the finish line. Dodgers, Yankees, Angels believed to be the leaders still. Would be major upset if he lands elsewhere.

All he does is tweet info everyone already has.
that, and whatever Scott Boras wants him to say  
Greg from LI : 12/10/2019 11:23 pm : link
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I need to start using this mystery team thing  
Mike from SI : 12/10/2019 11:27 pm : link
after a few dates. "You're great, but there are mystery models bidding for my affection."
I hope the yanks drive the price up  
xman : 12/10/2019 11:38 pm : link
for another team.
RE: I hope the yanks drive the price up  
Tesla : 12/10/2019 11:57 pm : link
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for another team.


Do you not enjoy winning?
Winning with our kids  
xman : 12/11/2019 12:15 am : link
is the best and gives us lots of flexibility. But c'est la vie
RE: Winning with our kids  
Tesla : 12/11/2019 12:24 am : link
In comment 14713950 xman said:
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is the best and gives us lots of flexibility. But c'est la vie


We're still gonna win with our kids. Are we not allowed to add any free agents to our young core like every other team in baseball does????
Not at that price and risk  
xman : 12/11/2019 12:43 am : link
a pitcher is an injury waiting to happen.
Its a sport  
Bill2 : 12/11/2019 1:58 am : link
To win at the upper rungs of the sport you keep taking manageable risks ( within your ability to afford it).

There is no award for the sports most prudent General Manager.

Honestly, within their means, spending more is as prudent as the Pirates on a percentage basis.

Listing the risks, as true as they are, is obvious, but misses the point. The point is to win. And to do so within a teams long term means.

Spending more is not imprudent of and by itself. Spending less or more than your operating model and cash flow is actual risk
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