pitcher, but Cole was the only one you’d give it to.
This put pressure on Cash to make smart moves to shore up the rest of the team. He’s gotta promote the right prospects and make small trades to make the team more balanced ie left-handed and more contact oriented. There isn’t a lot of flexibility however, so it will be interesting to see what he does.
I wouldn’t sign Dellin, as much as I love him. Loasiga needs to be in the pen now, which probably suits him better anyway. Montgomery and German can handle the 5th spot. It sucks that Frazier can’t play CF, I guess Gardner has to be back to man CF until Hicks returns. Sounds like they love Voit and Urshela, although I much prefer to hang onto Andujar’s bat. Frazier and Andujar for Josh Bell might not be a terrible idea...
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pitcher, but Cole was the only one you’d give it to.
This put pressure on Cash to make smart moves to shore up the rest of the team. He’s gotta promote the right prospects and make small trades to make the team more balanced ie left-handed and more contact oriented. There isn’t a lot of flexibility however, so it will be interesting to see what he does.
I wouldn’t sign Dellin, as much as I love him. Loasiga needs to be in the pen now, which probably suits him better anyway. Montgomery and German can handle the 5th spot. It sucks that Frazier can’t play CF, I guess Gardner has to be back to man CF until Hicks returns. Sounds like they love Voit and Urshela, although I much prefer to hang onto Andujar’s bat. Frazier and Andujar for Josh Bell might not be a terrible idea...
I love Dellin and my heart wants what it wants. I don't disagree that it may be time to move on. Perhaps a very incentivized deal is coming.
Frazier has so much potential. He just needs the team to support him and I don't think this organization bends that way. If that is the case, they should move him to an organization that will get the most out of him.
I don't think we should sell low on Miggy. A move for Bell should be built around Voit/Frazier and our pitching depth. I love Bell and would pull the trigger if the Pirates are interested but not for Andujar. We held on to him and ended with Cole anyways!
@GerritCole45 Hey the number 45 jersey fits really weird and runs really big...not a problem that you will want worry about for 9 years so I’ll take care of it! #Congratsman #letsget28
First Voit needs to see if he's on the opening 25 or even at ST.
I'm sure he's just joking around but If Cole really wants #45 he'll be #45.
@GerritCole45 Hey the number 45 jersey fits really weird and runs really big...not a problem that you will want worry about for 9 years so I’ll take care of it! #Congratsman #letsget28
First Voit needs to see if he's on the opening 25 or even at ST.
I'm sure he's just joking around but If Cole really wants #45 he'll be #45.
Did you misread it or something? I'm almost positive he wasn't being sarcastic. He's literally saying "hey, I'm going to give you 45." I'm not sure why that would ever be an issue.
would have a word with him about it and that would be it were it an issue at all. I like Luke. If he is really not willing to give up #45, that would say a lot about him, in a bad way. I don't think it will get there.
Yanks interested in Maldonado for backup C. Nice thought. Â
No bat but great pitch framer who worked great with Cole (this according to MLB network).
We already have that and better with Romine and/or Higgy.
He'd be Cole's personal C- go look at the numbers Cole put up with him behind the plate. Whatever it takes for Cole to be successful, the Yanks will do it.
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No bat but great pitch framer who worked great with Cole (this according to MLB network).
We already have that and better with Romine and/or Higgy.
He'd be Cole's personal C- go look at the numbers Cole put up with him behind the plate. Whatever it takes for Cole to be successful, the Yanks will do it.
If thats hos most successful battery mate, go get him.
But if Cole wants Maldonado, then sign him. If you spend $324 million on a guy, you do whatever he wants to be comfortable. Don't be dummies like the Mets were with Syndergaard last season.
Can play OF and 2nd base. Perfect compliment to the current line up. 4 years cost controlled at 16,25 mill total next 4.
It will be a fairly heavy cost in prospects but worth it IMO.
Nonetheless, Merrifield’s value may never be higher when it comes to a potential deal. While defensive metrics are not fond of his play at second, he would be an upgrade for most teams offensively at the position. Meanwhile, he has graded out as an above average outfielder, particularly in center.
But if Cole wants Maldonado, then sign him. If you spend $324 million on a guy, you do whatever he wants to be comfortable. Don't be dummies like the Mets were with Syndergaard last season.
Yep just like you said. Already shelled out the big bucks, now do what you can to maximize him
They'll have the same problems they did last year. A lineup that is great at the top but pretty shallow and a pitching staff that is likely to rank among the worst in baseball. Rendon helps; among other things he will solidify their infield defense. You could see a scenario where Adell is a beast from Day 1 and Canning is a legit 2-3 starter, and they're likely to grab a pitcher or two on the trade market or in free agency, but it's probably an 85 win team as constituted, especially in a competitive division. Really goes to show you what having a shit farm system at length can do to a team.
They'll have the same problems they did last year. A lineup that is great at the top but pretty shallow and a pitching staff that is likely to rank among the worst in baseball. Rendon helps; among other things he will solidify their infield defense. You could see a scenario where Adell is a beast from Day 1 and Canning is a legit 2-3 starter, and they're likely to grab a pitcher or two on the trade market or in free agency, but it's probably an 85 win team as constituted, especially in a competitive division. Really goes to show you what having a shit farm system at length can do to a team.
Plus if they have injuries they're screwed. Yet we had enough depth to withstand injuries and still win 103 games. Depth matters.
But seriously, I'm still just.. in disbelief and giddy over Cole.
I was actually really alarmed when Cashman dropped the quote "we will give it a championship effort". I said oh great, preparing the fans for dissapointment. Where they will lowball him at $250m, get blown out of the water, claim to the public that they were the highest bidder and say he just preferred the west coast.
Thank God that was just me overanalyzing. I'm so siked for baseball season.
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IF they want to get to the next level of play, a very good SS who hits for contact/OBP. on a steady basis provides us more folks at their best positions and offsets the cold as hell periodic slumps of Judge, Hicks, Stanton and Sanchez.
And we have players close to their max value that will not make it to core Yankees and could decline in value or clog the 40
IF they want to get to the next level of play, a very good SS who hits for contact/OBP. on a steady basis provides us more folks at their best positions and offsets the cold as hell periodic slumps of Judge, Hicks, Stanton and Sanchez.
And we have players close to their max value that will not make it to core Yankees and could decline in value or clog the 40
Bill2 I think that Torres can fulfill what you listed for the SS position, plus he has pop, a lot of pop. He may not have Didi's range, but he's better than Jeter. I think Urshela, Torres, DJLM and Voit/Ford is a more than adequate infield, not ideal, but Wade or Estrada can come in late for Voit and let DJ move to 1st for better defense.
I'm interested to see if Voit improves his defense. I know he is shutdown right now to let that surgery heal. But the guy works very hard and I think he got much better(comparatively) last season, especially on bad throws.
IF they want to get to the next level of play, a very good SS who hits for contact/OBP. on a steady basis provides us more folks at their best positions and offsets the cold as hell periodic slumps of Judge, Hicks, Stanton and Sanchez.
And we have players close to their max value that will not make it to core Yankees and could decline in value or clog the 40
After the Cole signing, I think they are going to be very cost conscious with the players they add even with guys like Ellsbury and Happ etc. coming off the books next year.
I think a guy like Merrifield or guys like Frazier and maybe even Bell (like Matt from SGS mentioned yesterday) from Pitts will be options for trade. Cost controlled players for a few years who can produce RIGHT NOW on the MLB level. This team is set to win now and Cash will trade in some chips to fortify the team while trying to keep us from going too high over multiple luxury tax threshold levels.
So guys like Lindor, Kris Bryant who are in that $15 mill range already and 1 year or so away from FA (or big ARB salary raises) will likely not be targets.
coming back for 1 x $12.5M, with some kind of option for a second year at $20M. Presumably it's a team option, and presumably there's some kind of buyout in there.
Not a big deal, but this is an overpay for what is almost sure to be a bigtime regression. 1 year won't kill them. Hopefully Hicks heals fast.
coming back for 1 x $12.5M, with some kind of option for a second year at $20M. Presumably it's a team option, and presumably there's some kind of buyout in there.
Not a big deal, but this is an overpay for what is almost sure to be a bigtime regression. 1 year won't kill them. Hopefully Hicks heals fast.
this initial info was incorrect, thankfully
I’d much prefer Torres primarily at 2B, but I think it will be much Â
like last season, with him playing a lot of SS and Wade or Estrada filling in when he shifts to 2B or DH. Not ideal. It will be interesting to see if the analytics group comes up with a SS and/or CF who plays great defense that we trade for.
On the Merrifield thing, he doesn't play shortstop, so who would he be taking PT from?
And honestly, I don't see the need to trade for Josh Bell either. He had an incredible first half of the season and slumped dramatically in the second half. He never had a season close to last year's before. He showed a bit more power than Voit (last year, at least) but Voit's a better OBP guy. Bell's no better at first than Voit is - they're both butchers. Voit's under team control for longer. The only real advantage he has is switch hitting.
Voit had been nothing but productive as a Yankee until the hernia. I expect him to bounce back strong.
the Yankees won a bunch of titles with weak defensive SS and C Â
Because those guys were upper echelon hitters for their positions. It's a big advantage. I see the same possibility here, only Gary is a better catcher than Georgie. Yes, that does depend on him getting back to the hitter he was a couple of years ago, but even with a disappointing 2019, he was still one of the more productive catchers at the plate.
I imagine that if things stay as they are, the Yanks will make Â
some defensive late switches in games that they lead. Gleyber to 2B, DJ to 1B, Wade or some top defensive SS to SS. The 26th player may be a help in that; I'm thinking it will be Wade, as his speed helps in other ways as a 26th piece.
We should give Cole number #324
This put pressure on Cash to make smart moves to shore up the rest of the team. He’s gotta promote the right prospects and make small trades to make the team more balanced ie left-handed and more contact oriented. There isn’t a lot of flexibility however, so it will be interesting to see what he does.
I wouldn’t sign Dellin, as much as I love him. Loasiga needs to be in the pen now, which probably suits him better anyway. Montgomery and German can handle the 5th spot. It sucks that Frazier can’t play CF, I guess Gardner has to be back to man CF until Hicks returns. Sounds like they love Voit and Urshela, although I much prefer to hang onto Andujar’s bat. Frazier and Andujar for Josh Bell might not be a terrible idea...
This put pressure on Cash to make smart moves to shore up the rest of the team. He’s gotta promote the right prospects and make small trades to make the team more balanced ie left-handed and more contact oriented. There isn’t a lot of flexibility however, so it will be interesting to see what he does.
I wouldn’t sign Dellin, as much as I love him. Loasiga needs to be in the pen now, which probably suits him better anyway. Montgomery and German can handle the 5th spot. It sucks that Frazier can’t play CF, I guess Gardner has to be back to man CF until Hicks returns. Sounds like they love Voit and Urshela, although I much prefer to hang onto Andujar’s bat. Frazier and Andujar for Josh Bell might not be a terrible idea...
I love Dellin and my heart wants what it wants. I don't disagree that it may be time to move on. Perhaps a very incentivized deal is coming.
Frazier has so much potential. He just needs the team to support him and I don't think this organization bends that way. If that is the case, they should move him to an organization that will get the most out of him.
I don't think we should sell low on Miggy. A move for Bell should be built around Voit/Frazier and our pitching depth. I love Bell and would pull the trigger if the Pirates are interested but not for Andujar. We held on to him and ended with Cole anyways!
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@GerritCole45 Hey the number 45 jersey fits really weird and runs really big...not a problem that you will want worry about for 9 years so I’ll take care of it! #Congratsman #letsget28
First Voit needs to see if he's on the opening 25 or even at ST.
I'm sure he's just joking around but If Cole really wants #45 he'll be #45.
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@GerritCole45 Hey the number 45 jersey fits really weird and runs really big...not a problem that you will want worry about for 9 years so I’ll take care of it! #Congratsman #letsget28
First Voit needs to see if he's on the opening 25 or even at ST.
I'm sure he's just joking around but If Cole really wants #45 he'll be #45.
Did you misread it or something? I'm almost positive he wasn't being sarcastic. He's literally saying "hey, I'm going to give you 45." I'm not sure why that would ever be an issue.
We already have that and better with Romine and/or Higgy.
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No bat but great pitch framer who worked great with Cole (this according to MLB network).
We already have that and better with Romine and/or Higgy.
He'd be Cole's personal C- go look at the numbers Cole put up with him behind the plate. Whatever it takes for Cole to be successful, the Yanks will do it.
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No bat but great pitch framer who worked great with Cole (this according to MLB network).
We already have that and better with Romine and/or Higgy.
He'd be Cole's personal C- go look at the numbers Cole put up with him behind the plate. Whatever it takes for Cole to be successful, the Yanks will do it.
If thats hos most successful battery mate, go get him.
It will be a fairly heavy cost in prospects but worth it IMO.
Nonetheless, Merrifield’s value may never be higher when it comes to a potential deal. While defensive metrics are not fond of his play at second, he would be an upgrade for most teams offensively at the position. Meanwhile, he has graded out as an above average outfielder, particularly in center.
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with Didi gone, and Torres not completely proven at short, I can see it. I don't think third, second or first are the issue.
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with Didi gone, and Torres not completely proven at short, I can see it. I don't think third, second or first are the issue.
Merrifield offers both Middle infield and OF versatility and he is a .300 hitter. Very good fit for this line up.
The trade Matt in SGS mentioned seemed pretty interesting too.
Yep just like you said. Already shelled out the big bucks, now do what you can to maximize him
They'll have the same problems they did last year. A lineup that is great at the top but pretty shallow and a pitching staff that is likely to rank among the worst in baseball. Rendon helps; among other things he will solidify their infield defense. You could see a scenario where Adell is a beast from Day 1 and Canning is a legit 2-3 starter, and they're likely to grab a pitcher or two on the trade market or in free agency, but it's probably an 85 win team as constituted, especially in a competitive division. Really goes to show you what having a shit farm system at length can do to a team.
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They'll have the same problems they did last year. A lineup that is great at the top but pretty shallow and a pitching staff that is likely to rank among the worst in baseball. Rendon helps; among other things he will solidify their infield defense. You could see a scenario where Adell is a beast from Day 1 and Canning is a legit 2-3 starter, and they're likely to grab a pitcher or two on the trade market or in free agency, but it's probably an 85 win team as constituted, especially in a competitive division. Really goes to show you what having a shit farm system at length can do to a team.
Plus if they have injuries they're screwed. Yet we had enough depth to withstand injuries and still win 103 games. Depth matters.
Holy crap just read that in the Post...numbers are getting crazy and these luxury tax levels will need to drastically change next CBA...
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I don't quite get it.
with Didi gone, and Torres not completely proven at short, I can see it. I don't think third, second or first are the issue.
They don't need a 2nd baseman...I think Wade and Estrada can adequately cover SS as backup.
As to Maldonado, eh...If he is cheaper than Romine ok. But is he better than Higgy? Probably better arm?
But seriously, I'm still just.. in disbelief and giddy over Cole.
I was actually really alarmed when Cashman dropped the quote "we will give it a championship effort". I said oh great, preparing the fans for dissapointment. Where they will lowball him at $250m, get blown out of the water, claim to the public that they were the highest bidder and say he just preferred the west coast.
Thank God that was just me overanalyzing. I'm so siked for baseball season.
..... I'm so "psyched: for baseball season.
It is maybe all we have..
IF they want to get to the next level of play, a very good SS who hits for contact/OBP. on a steady basis provides us more folks at their best positions and offsets the cold as hell periodic slumps of Judge, Hicks, Stanton and Sanchez.
And we have players close to their max value that will not make it to core Yankees and could decline in value or clog the 40
IF they want to get to the next level of play, a very good SS who hits for contact/OBP. on a steady basis provides us more folks at their best positions and offsets the cold as hell periodic slumps of Judge, Hicks, Stanton and Sanchez.
And we have players close to their max value that will not make it to core Yankees and could decline in value or clog the 40
Bill2 I think that Torres can fulfill what you listed for the SS position, plus he has pop, a lot of pop. He may not have Didi's range, but he's better than Jeter. I think Urshela, Torres, DJLM and Voit/Ford is a more than adequate infield, not ideal, but Wade or Estrada can come in late for Voit and let DJ move to 1st for better defense.
I'm interested to see if Voit improves his defense. I know he is shutdown right now to let that surgery heal. But the guy works very hard and I think he got much better(comparatively) last season, especially on bad throws.
IF they want to get to the next level of play, a very good SS who hits for contact/OBP. on a steady basis provides us more folks at their best positions and offsets the cold as hell periodic slumps of Judge, Hicks, Stanton and Sanchez.
And we have players close to their max value that will not make it to core Yankees and could decline in value or clog the 40
After the Cole signing, I think they are going to be very cost conscious with the players they add even with guys like Ellsbury and Happ etc. coming off the books next year.
I think a guy like Merrifield or guys like Frazier and maybe even Bell (like Matt from SGS mentioned yesterday) from Pitts will be options for trade. Cost controlled players for a few years who can produce RIGHT NOW on the MLB level. This team is set to win now and Cash will trade in some chips to fortify the team while trying to keep us from going too high over multiple luxury tax threshold levels.
So guys like Lindor, Kris Bryant who are in that $15 mill range already and 1 year or so away from FA (or big ARB salary raises) will likely not be targets.
Not a big deal, but this is an overpay for what is almost sure to be a bigtime regression. 1 year won't kill them. Hopefully Hicks heals fast.
Not a big deal, but this is an overpay for what is almost sure to be a bigtime regression. 1 year won't kill them. Hopefully Hicks heals fast.
this initial info was incorrect, thankfully
Ducks are falling...
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Didn't know they had signing bonus in baseball. Think he meant incentives?
On the Merrifield thing, he doesn't play shortstop, so who would he be taking PT from?
And honestly, I don't see the need to trade for Josh Bell either. He had an incredible first half of the season and slumped dramatically in the second half. He never had a season close to last year's before. He showed a bit more power than Voit (last year, at least) but Voit's a better OBP guy. Bell's no better at first than Voit is - they're both butchers. Voit's under team control for longer. The only real advantage he has is switch hitting.
Voit had been nothing but productive as a Yankee until the hernia. I expect him to bounce back strong.
Hard to believe.
(Take care my friend).
I do think many of you are excessively negative on Torres at SS. He played better there than he did at second.
Kind of amazing how much some of us have interacted over time.
You would think the teams we root for would have gotten it right by now.
We certainly have been telling them the right things to do!