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Question on the Williams trade

buddyryansux10 : 12/11/2019 7:31 am
the 3rd round pick we are sending to the Jets, could this possible turn into the (expected/potential) third round comp pick from Collins? Not sure how the NFL rules would address this, and of course I don't know the specific terms of the trade, but knowing comp picks can now be traded makes it interesting. Just curious




Of course, this is all contingent upon us finally getting the Saints' first round pick......
Do t think so.  
superspynyg : 12/11/2019 7:34 am : link
It’s the first or highest pick we have. So it will be the top 10 pick in rd 3.
RE: Do t think so.  
buddyryansux10 : 12/11/2019 7:42 am : link
In comment 14714040 superspynyg said:
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It’s the first or highest pick we have. So it will be the top 10 pick in rd 3.


Yeah, I figured that's the most likely scenario ( unfortunately ), but I also haven't seen anything confirming it specifically either.
No  
jeff57 : 12/11/2019 7:47 am : link
Can't trade pick until its awarded
Do you really think the Jets didn’t specify the # of the pick...  
sb from NYT Forum : 12/11/2019 7:50 am : link
But just said “any third rounder”? The Jets are a mess but not completely stupid.
RE: Do you really think the Jets didn’t specify the # of the pick...  
buddyryansux10 : 12/11/2019 8:00 am : link
In comment 14714057 sb from NYT Forum said:
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But just said “any third rounder”? The Jets are a mess but not completely stupid.


Understood, but it was specified for the BJ Goodson trade. And from the Jets perspective, getting "any" third rounder this year would be better than getting nothing after Williams walks.
RE: No  
Diver_Down : 12/11/2019 8:01 am : link
In comment 14714054 jeff57 said:
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Can't trade pick until its awarded


This. At the time of the trade, there were no comp picks awarded. Can't trade on speculation. The trade is for our original 3rd round pick.
RE: Do t think so.  
BillT : 12/11/2019 8:27 am : link
In comment 14714040 superspynyg said:
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It’s the first or highest pick we have. So it will be the top 10 pick in rd 3.

And you know this how? Not saying it isn’t true but I don’t remember anything like this said at the time if the trade.
Can we make a sticky out of this question?  
chuckydee9 : 12/11/2019 9:33 am : link
Everyweek someone asks this..

No.. We couldn't have traded away a pick we were given already.. so the only 3rd round pick we had was our own.. We are giving away the 1st or the 2nd pick in the 3rd round for a guy who hasn't sacked anyone in 23+ games..
I mean...  
Dan in the Springs : 12/11/2019 9:42 am : link
logically we can understand that the Giants couldn't have traded a pick not yet awarded. The question is did they use language that would allow for it to be a different pick in the third round if available?

Most likely not, and perhaps even asking the question is pedantry, but I think it's reasonable to have the thought. Would be nice to hear if somehow the language in the trade allowed for the Giants to send "a 2019 third round pick" as opposed to their normal slotted 2019 third round pick.
We just told them it was a 3rd round pick...  
Tesla : 12/11/2019 10:10 am : link
so we can definitely give them whichever 3rd rounder we have.

Moreover I heard that DG had his fingers crossed behind his back when he made the deal so TECHNICALLY we don't even have to give them anything if we don't want to.

LOL Jets.....Suckers!!!!!
RE: Do you really think the Jets didn’t specify the # of the pick...  
FranknWeezer : 12/11/2019 11:19 am : link
In comment 14714057 sb from NYT Forum said:
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But just said “any third rounder”? The Jets are a mess but not completely stupid.


I agree with you in principle about the trade not having been for a comp pick we have yet to be awarded, but nobody knows what number pick we will have in the third round, so NYJ couldn't have possibly specified the exact pick number.
RE: Can we make a sticky out of this question?  
buddyryansux10 : 12/11/2019 11:21 am : link
In comment 14714211 chuckydee9 said:
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Everyweek someone asks this..

No.. We couldn't have traded away a pick we were given already.. so the only 3rd round pick we had was our own.. We are giving away the 1st or the 2nd pick in the 3rd round for a guy who hasn't sacked anyone in 23+ games..


Sorry, didn't see any threads with this subject/question so not sure where this was asked "every week". Again, its probably not happening, but I don't see how its entirely far-fetched since I'm quite sure very few people have seen the actual trade terms, and they're probably not posting on BBI ( at least about this ).

And hey I wouldn't mind this as a sticky question.
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