Say it goes Giants then Cincy
What is the min you would take to trade down if a team picking behind Cincy really wants Burrows?
For me I won’t go out of the top 5/6 and it would take a minimum of first and 3rd this year and 1st and second next year or 1st and 2nd this year and a first and third next year.
I think right now there are 5-6 blue chip players in this draft (Not in order)
Borrows
Young
OT Thomas
Judy
OT Wirfs
Cb Okuduh
The boarder line guys are
Simmons
Espanza
Herbert
Tua
Lamb
Miami right now will have the #3, #19, #23. It will take all three of their picks for us to swap #1 --> #3. That is accounting for the QB premium. Technically, we should trade a late rounder back to balance the scale. But tough shit. If a team wants their choice they have to pay. If Miami is insisting on the trade but also keeping a first, then they can retain #23 and trade their 2021 first which will more than likely be higher than #23.
Assuming we have a new staff, they may decide to work with DJ. But they shouldn't be married to him either. In such a scenario, his scholarship should only be extended for the next season. If we remain terrible and are picking at the top of the 2021 draft class, then having an additional #1 will help in trading up for Sunshine.
DREAM SITUATION!!!
Miami right now will have the #3, #19, #23. It will take all three of their picks for us to swap #1 --> #3. That is accounting for the QB premium. Technically, we should trade a late rounder back to balance the scale. But tough shit. If a team wants their choice they have to pay. If Miami is insisting on the trade but also keeping a first, then they can retain #23 and trade their 2021 first which will more than likely be higher than #23.
Assuming we have a new staff, they may decide to work with DJ. But they shouldn't be married to him either. In such a scenario, his scholarship should only be extended for the next season. If we remain terrible and are picking at the top of the 2021 draft class, then having an additional #1 will help in trading up for Sunshine.
A 1 in 2021 is far more valuable to us than a late 1 in 2020. Why, because we want pick capital if needed to move up to get TL next year (again, if we decide we need to). Burrow is a distant second to TL and if TL were available this year Burrow would be being talked about as maybe a top 5 with TL #1 for sure.
DREAM SITUATION!!!
That would be great, the only thing would be that at pick # 3, if say Chase Young were that highly regarded, and Cincy would only see Burrow as deserving of its top pick, there's a good chance that they may trade down with another team trying to get Young ( Raiders? ), or just take Young themselves.
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in other threads. But if first starts with the draft value chart. We aren't selling for less. Then you have to make the assumption that the team trading up is wanting their choice of QB - so tack on a QB premium.
Miami right now will have the #3, #19, #23. It will take all three of their picks for us to swap #1 --> #3. That is accounting for the QB premium. Technically, we should trade a late rounder back to balance the scale. But tough shit. If a team wants their choice they have to pay. If Miami is insisting on the trade but also keeping a first, then they can retain #23 and trade their 2021 first which will more than likely be higher than #23.
Assuming we have a new staff, they may decide to work with DJ. But they shouldn't be married to him either. In such a scenario, his scholarship should only be extended for the next season. If we remain terrible and are picking at the top of the 2021 draft class, then having an additional #1 will help in trading up for Sunshine.
A 1 in 2021 is far more valuable to us than a late 1 in 2020. Why, because we want pick capital if needed to move up to get TL next year (again, if we decide we need to). Burrow is a distant second to TL and if TL were available this year Burrow would be being talked about as maybe a top 5 with TL #1 for sure.
Not the worst idea BUT if the team with the #1 pick next year needs a QB that pick might not be for sale no matter the price.
Miami right now will have the #3, #19, #23. It will take all three of their picks for us to swap #1 --> #3. That is accounting for the QB premium. Technically, we should trade a late rounder back to balance the scale. But tough shit. If a team wants their choice they have to pay. If Miami is insisting on the trade but also keeping a first, then they can retain #23 and trade their 2021 first which will more than likely be higher than #23.
Assuming we have a new staff, they may decide to work with DJ. But they shouldn't be married to him either. In such a scenario, his scholarship should only be extended for the next season. If we remain terrible and are picking at the top of the 2021 draft class, then having an additional #1 will help in trading up for Sunshine.
I'd be stunned if Miami made that trade. They won't be so in love with Burrow that they would do so IMO. They also have a ton of holes like we do.
For their choice. Cinci wants a QB. It is no secret that Miami loves(d) Tua. Who knows how the recent injury and past injuries has affected his stock. But Miami can't continue to punt or settle for their second choice. Ross isn't getting any younger and they have been in QB purgatory since Marino. You do what it takes to secure the privilege of choice and not settle for seconds.
Miami is the only with the draft capital that is attractive. If we have to sell to the Jags (yes, I know they have Minshew), they don't have the capital that would be enticing to move out of Blue Chip territory.
Chargers at #10? Nope.
Bucs at #16? Nope and nope.
No it's not!
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No S
No it's not!
Haha still no S
I want the next GM to make the decisions, rather than Mara's yes man!
Because if we let it be known the pick is available another team can swoop in. In other words we are picking #1, Cinci #2 and say Cinci really wants the QB, we can get something out of them so they keep Miami from swooping in.
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In comment 14714101 Diver_Down said:
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in other threads. But if first starts with the draft value chart. We aren't selling for less. Then you have to make the assumption that the team trading up is wanting their choice of QB - so tack on a QB premium.
Miami right now will have the #3, #19, #23. It will take all three of their picks for us to swap #1 --> #3. That is accounting for the QB premium. Technically, we should trade a late rounder back to balance the scale. But tough shit. If a team wants their choice they have to pay. If Miami is insisting on the trade but also keeping a first, then they can retain #23 and trade their 2021 first which will more than likely be higher than #23.
Assuming we have a new staff, they may decide to work with DJ. But they shouldn't be married to him either. In such a scenario, his scholarship should only be extended for the next season. If we remain terrible and are picking at the top of the 2021 draft class, then having an additional #1 will help in trading up for Sunshine.
A 1 in 2021 is far more valuable to us than a late 1 in 2020. Why, because we want pick capital if needed to move up to get TL next year (again, if we decide we need to). Burrow is a distant second to TL and if TL were available this year Burrow would be being talked about as maybe a top 5 with TL #1 for sure.
Not the worst idea BUT if the team with the #1 pick next year needs a QB that pick might not be for sale no matter the price.
I'm pretty sure the only way the team with the #1 pick in 2021 trades out of it is if it has a top 10 QB, otherwise I can't see it passing on Trevor Lawrence.
2012: Draft Picks #14, #39, #50 and #150
2013: Draft Picks #30, #92, #160
2014: Draft Pick #2
You have a good shot at then trading Tua for a projected high 1st round 2021 pick.
See what happens...