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GMAN4LIFE : 12/12/2019 11:26 am
1 year deal for 12.5 mil
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BleedBlue : 12/12/2019 11:29 am : link
necessary with the hicks injury, otherwise, they may have let him go.

still a few questions for the yanks. who is the everyday 1B? what happens to Happ? Andujar? Frazier?
all good questions that should become clearer as the season nears.

I am sure we are all still on cloud 9 about the cole news.
RE: ....  
Thankyoueli : 12/12/2019 11:39 am : link
In comment 14715803 BleedBlue said:
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necessary with the hicks injury, otherwise, they may have let him go.

still a few questions for the yanks. who is the everyday 1B? what happens to Happ? Andujar? Frazier?
all good questions that should become clearer as the season nears.

I am sure we are all still on cloud 9 about the cole news.


Hicks they should trade as soon as they can, not sure why they ever gave him that contract in the first place.

Frazier, try to train him to play CF. If he cant he's the 4th OF who can be worked in plenty, particularly in left.

Andujar needs to stay no matter what. We dont know if Urshela will be able to repeat what he did last year, but either way train Andujar to play some 1st base and maybe he and Voit can platoon it.

This team is friggin loaded. There's not even a need to trade Andujar or Frazier, we have no needs.
Hell yeah!!  
Dave in Hoboken : 12/12/2019 11:40 am : link
Welcome back, Gardy! The more depth the better.
Gardy  
AJ23 : 12/12/2019 11:40 am : link
Had the 15th highest WAR among outfielders in the MLB that played more than 100 games. Well deserved
Needed to be done  
Carson53 : 12/12/2019 11:42 am : link
with Hicks out until the June/July timeframe!
Fair for both parties.
$12.5M is twice what I wanted to see...  
Milton : 12/12/2019 11:42 am : link
I find it hard to believe that there were teams willing to pay him north of $10M.
RE: $12.5M is twice what I wanted to see...  
Carson53 : 12/12/2019 11:48 am : link
In comment 14715828 Milton said:
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I find it hard to believe that there were teams willing to pay him north of $10M.
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It's actually 10M, with a 2.5 mill. buyout.
There is a 2nd year team option, if the Yanks don't pick that up, he then gets 2.5. I think that is fair for both parties, need him more now than last offseson, with the
Hicks situation.
RE: $12.5M is twice what I wanted to see...  
section125 : 12/12/2019 11:48 am : link
In comment 14715828 Milton said:
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I find it hard to believe that there were teams willing to pay him north of $10M.


It was an overpay to keep it to 1 year, I'd bet.

I expected $10-12. He is well worth it. He won't hit 28 HRs again as the ball is likely back to normal. But he still plays a stellar OF. One more year in the locker room now that CC is gone. He and Judge will rule the roost.
RE: RE: $12.5M is twice what I wanted to see...  
section125 : 12/12/2019 11:50 am : link
In comment 14715838 Carson53 said:
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In comment 14715828 Milton said:


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I find it hard to believe that there were teams willing to pay him north of $10M.

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It's actually 10M, with a 2.5 mill. buyout.
There is a 2nd year team option, if the Yanks don't pick that up, he then gets 2.5. I think that is fair for both parties, need him more now than last offseason, with the
Hicks situation.


That's a nice hedge... $10 m is fair for both. The team option is great just in case of more injuries and allows him a nice retirement nest egg...
Pretty shocked at the amount  
Tesla : 12/12/2019 11:51 am : link
I guess the Hicks injury gave him a good amount of leverage.

I think there's a good chance of some heavy regression for him this year based on his age.
Gardner in the postseason  
shyster : 12/12/2019 12:01 pm : link
For his career:

184 plate appearances, slash line of .196/.260/.252. Probably one of the worst in MLB history for a player with that number of PAs.

And the stat that stands out is 48 strikeouts and only 13 walks in those 184 appearances. That's not hitting in bad luck; that's his approach not working.

2019 postseason was in line with career: .175/.263/.265 in 38 PAs.

And 15 strikeouts and only 3 walks in nine games.

Count on him being in the lineup in October. Cashman wants to get him a ring and wants him on the field for it.



I'd say its been a good couple of days.  
Ron from Ninerland : 12/12/2019 12:02 pm : link
As for the amount, it seems about right. He made 8 mil last year and he was due a raise. Its only $10 mil against the tax.
Good.  
Ryan in Albany : 12/12/2019 12:03 pm : link
Now wrap up Betances, Cash.
12.5m on a 1 year deal is  
Thankyoueli : 12/12/2019 12:09 pm : link
Plenty fair.
Gardy wasn't on the 40-man -  
Del Shofner : 12/12/2019 12:11 pm : link
do they have to drop someone now?
RE: Gardy wasn't on the 40-man -  
section125 : 12/12/2019 12:14 pm : link
In comment 14715903 Del Shofner said:
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do they have to drop someone now?


He and Cole need to be added...there will be some DFAs.
Romine to the Tigers  
Stu11 : 12/12/2019 12:25 pm : link
1 year deal.
RE: Romine to the Tigers  
section125 : 12/12/2019 12:26 pm : link
In comment 14715940 Stu11 said:
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1 year deal.


Wow. Is his brother still in Detroit?
RE: Romine to the Tigers  
Tesla : 12/12/2019 12:27 pm : link
In comment 14715940 Stu11 said:
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1 year deal.


Does his brother still play for the Tigers too?
RE: RE: Romine to the Tigers  
section125 : 12/12/2019 12:28 pm : link
In comment 14715944 section125 said:
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1 year deal.



Wow. Is his brother still in Detroit?


Nope...

Ok looks like 1 year 4.1 mill.
RE: RE: RE: Romine to the Tigers  
Thankyoueli : 12/12/2019 12:38 pm : link
In comment 14715947 section125 said:
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1 year deal.



Wow. Is his brother still in Detroit?



Nope...

Ok looks like 1 year 4.1 mill.


Shouldve brought him back for that.

Apparently were pursuing a trade for Josh Hader, dont like it. Would rather just resign Dellin.

Saw this happening even if Hicks was healthy  
Mike in Long Beach : 12/12/2019 12:39 pm : link
The Yanks are extremely low in the left-handed hitter department.
May have been mentioned  
dune69 : 12/12/2019 12:40 pm : link
Yankees talking to Brewers on Josh Hader.
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RE: May have been mentioned  
Greg from LI : 12/12/2019 12:41 pm : link
In comment 14715977 dune69 said:
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Yankees talking to Brewers on Josh Hader. Link - ( New Window )


If that happens it would mean Dellin is a goner. I would be sad.
Agree Greg  
dune69 : 12/12/2019 12:46 pm : link
I was hoping for a Dellin return. Perhaps just Cashman putting pressure on the Betances camp. Though, Cashman has been good at bringing in good relievers in their prime.
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mfsd : 12/12/2019 12:49 pm : link
In comment 14715822 Thankyoueli said:
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necessary with the hicks injury, otherwise, they may have let him go.

still a few questions for the yanks. who is the everyday 1B? what happens to Happ? Andujar? Frazier?
all good questions that should become clearer as the season nears.

I am sure we are all still on cloud 9 about the cole news.



Hicks they should trade as soon as they can, not sure why they ever gave him that contract in the first place.

Frazier, try to train him to play CF. If he cant he's the 4th OF who can be worked in plenty, particularly in left.

Andujar needs to stay no matter what. We dont know if Urshela will be able to repeat what he did last year, but either way train Andujar to play some 1st base and maybe he and Voit can platoon it.

This team is friggin loaded. There's not even a need to trade Andujar or Frazier, we have no needs.


Frazier in CF? Come on
It would suck to see Betances go  
Hsilwek92 : 12/12/2019 12:50 pm : link
But Josh Hader is a fucking stud who is only 26 and still has years of control. That would cheer me right up.
well, it's a business  
Greg from LI : 12/12/2019 12:50 pm : link
Dellin's no kid - he'll turn 32 next spring and he's coming off of two serious injuries. Hader will be 26 and has been dominant. I'll understand why they might go that route, but it would suck if they won and the big fella wasn't around for it.
Adding Hader to the pen they already have is absurd  
Greg from LI : 12/12/2019 12:53 pm : link
I mean, Kahnle's practically a mopup long man at that point. Crazy.
I fear Hader will cost too much.....  
Tesla : 12/12/2019 12:54 pm : link
We've got a ton of young talented arms in the upper and lower minors....I'm confident we can continue to re-fill our pen at an elite level from within. I'd rather keep our prospects or use them to fill any needs that arise throughout the season.
Dellin Betances is 32?  
dune69 : 12/12/2019 12:54 pm : link
Man am I getting old. Seems like he was just a baby Yank.
I realize money isn't a big obstacle for NYY  
JonC : 12/12/2019 12:57 pm : link
but I hate paying all this money to Gardy, Hicks, and even Stanton. I don't want to pay big money to Sanchez either.
Hell  
Hsilwek92 : 12/12/2019 12:57 pm : link
I still remember the day he was drafted.
RE: Dellin Betances is 32?  
Scooter185 : 12/12/2019 12:58 pm : link
In comment 14716022 dune69 said:
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Man am I getting old. Seems like he was just a baby Yank.

It's because he'd been in the system forever. Was one of the touted killer B's with Brackman and Banuelos.
Adding Hader would be insane.  
Dave in Hoboken : 12/12/2019 12:59 pm : link
As much as I love Betances, I'd take Hader in a micro-second over him. 6 years younger than Betances and has been excellent.
God, Andrew Brackman  
Hsilwek92 : 12/12/2019 12:59 pm : link
What a waste of a pick.
Betances makes me nervous  
Milton : 12/12/2019 1:02 pm : link
When he's on he is unhittable, but when he doesn't have his control he walks batters and then can't hold them on because of his delivery. So when he walks a guy it's like he walks them all the way to second base. It also makes it less than ideal to bring him in with a runner on first.

But like I said, when he's on, he is absolutely unhittable.
well, he didn't establish himself in MLB until he was 26  
Greg from LI : 12/12/2019 1:03 pm : link
He spent a long time in the minors because they didn't want to put him in the pen. He showed tantalizing stretches of dominant starting - particularly a dynamite 2010 in Tampa when he made 14 starts as a 22 year old, 1.77 ERA, 71 IP, 43 H, 88 K, 19 BB - but ultimately just could never develop the consistency.
Garcia, Abreu and King for Hader? Is that too much?  
Jim in Hoboken : 12/12/2019 1:04 pm : link
I’d add Acevedo or swap out King for Schmidt too.

We just lost Austin Romine  
MattyKid : 12/12/2019 1:12 pm : link
to the Tigers. 1 year 4 MM
Gardner is 1/$10...  
Dunedin81 : 12/12/2019 1:13 pm : link
with a $10 option for year two and a $2.5 buyout. If they pick up his second year it's 2/$20, if not it's effectively 1/$12.5
RE: We just lost Austin Romine  
Greg from LI : 12/12/2019 1:16 pm : link
In comment 14716061 MattyKid said:
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to the Tigers. 1 year 4 MM


Martin Maldonado, come on down
RE: I realize money isn't a big obstacle for NYY  
section125 : 12/12/2019 1:30 pm : link
In comment 14716028 JonC said:
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but I hate paying all this money to Gardy, Hicks, and even Stanton. I don't want to pay big money to Sanchez either.


Gardy for 1 year is not a problem. Hicks is a bit fragile, so that is a quandry for such a long deal(6 years left IIRC), but $10m is not awful. Stanton, if he is healthy is a beast.

I know what you are saying, I could do without Stanton's $$, but nothing we can do now.
RE: Garcia, Abreu and King for Hader? Is that too much?  
Milton : 12/12/2019 1:41 pm : link
In comment 14716046 Jim in Hoboken said:
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I’d add Acevedo or swap out King for Schmidt too.
The Brewers may have interest in Happ, so he could be included in a package that helps the Brewers fill out their weak minor league system. I was suggesting Frazier, Green, Garcia, and Florial on another thread, but maybe Happ, Frazier, Garcia, and Florial gets it done (with perhaps the Yankees to taking on some of Happ's $17M). Part of me thinks the Brewers will want a decent reliever to replace Hader (along with prospects) so that's where I think Green and maybe Kahnle fit in. So basically some combination of Happ, Frazier, Florial, Garcia, Green, and Kahnle gets it done. Hard to imagine they get it done without including Garcia, but to be perfectly honest, I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about!
Milton, all due respect but I’m glad you’re not our GM.  
yatqb : 12/12/2019 2:06 pm : link
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RE: Milton, all due respect but I’m glad you’re not our GM.  
Milton : 12/12/2019 2:10 pm : link
In comment 14716208 yatqb said:
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Understandable, but I was the guy who wanted to trade for Cole at the 2017 trading deadline!
RE: RE: Garcia, Abreu and King for Hader? Is that too much?  
section125 : 12/12/2019 2:13 pm : link
In comment 14716157 Milton said:
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I’d add Acevedo or swap out King for Schmidt too.


The Brewers may have interest in Happ, so he could be included in a package that helps the Brewers fill out their weak minor league system. I was suggesting Frazier, Green, Garcia, and Florial on another thread, but maybe Happ, Frazier, Garcia, and Florial gets it done (with perhaps the Yankees to taking on some of Happ's $17M). Part of me thinks the Brewers will want a decent reliever to replace Hader (along with prospects) so that's where I think Green and maybe Kahnle fit in. So basically some combination of Happ, Frazier, Florial, Garcia, Green, and Kahnle gets it done. Hard to imagine they get it done without including Garcia, but to be perfectly honest, I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about!


Why would you trade all that for a guy that would be the 4th guy in the pen? Chapman, Britton, Ottavino, Kahnle and Green are all still there. Where does he slot? Ahead of Kahnle? Certainly not ahead of Britton or Ottavino and probably not Green either.

You are not giving up 4 solid pieces for the 6th inning guy.
Hader would be ahead of Britton and Ottavino  
Greg from LI : 12/12/2019 2:17 pm : link
Particularly given Ottavino's meltdown in the playoffs.
Brett Gardner is worth...  
M.S. : 12/12/2019 3:13 pm : link

...every single penny!

The New York Giants could use a few (make that several) Brett Gardners. At least, then, we would know we were rooting for real men who actually care about winning.
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