We’ve seen plenty of phenoms over the years, but through 14 games, Lamar Jackson is over 1,100 yards rushing (and nearly 7ypc), 7 rushing. TDs, and 33 passing TDs. At age 22. Trying to think of a comparably dominant offensive season ....
Who knows how long he’ll last, but this is pretty spectacular. I remember scoffing after he got beat by the Chargers ... guess I got that one wrong.
This is one of those moments where if you love the rich history of football, you just sit back and savor — Gayle Sayers in the flesh.
He's a really good skill position player who can also throw really well.
I see much more Vick and virtually no RG3 in him.
It still feels like a surprise to me b/c he was drafted low and was a limited passer when he took over for Flacco last year ...
I wonder what the highest YPC is for a guy over 1,100 yards?
It still feels like a surprise to me b/c he was drafted low and was a limited passer when he took over for Flacco last year ...
I wonder what the highest YPC is for a guy over 1,100 yards?
LJax broke Vick's record tonight for rushing yards by a QB. LJax is averaging about 6.9 YPC. Just brilliant.
Vick's average when he set this mark? 8.4.
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It still feels like a surprise to me b/c he was drafted low and was a limited passer when he took over for Flacco last year ...
I wonder what the highest YPC is for a guy over 1,100 yards?
LJax broke Vick's record tonight for rushing yards by a QB. LJax is averaging about 6.9 YPC. Just brilliant.
Vick's average when he set this mark? 8.4.
He accounted for a crazy 119 TDs in three seasons at Louisville. As of tonight, he’s accounted for 39 TDs in 14 games ... keeping pace!
I suspect Mark Andrews and Hollywood Brown are gonna be household names by this time next year.
He'll rewrite the record books for a while. Don't want to be a downer, but his game is based upon speed and extraordinary athleticism. That erodes with time, even if he avoids serious injury. Be we all know that's the running QB's bugaboo, even the incredibly talented. Hope he can be the exception.
And lest we forget, it's a team sport, and the Ravens are pretty damn good team that is surrounding his talent.
I did not think he would develop to this level of accuracy. I was wrong on him in that respect. Was not a believer. My other thing with him was will he still be good when the speed goes and he has to play from the pocket. I now think that is a good possibility. Right now he's the biggest nightmare match up in the NFL and maybe in sports.
He still has to prove he can win playoff football. From what I've seen, my doubts have been proven wrong on him thus far, I wouldn't bet against him now.
It seems like he's got the mind of an elite point guard... just upper tier spatial awareness. Like he not only knows where everyone currently is, but where everyone is about to be when he runs.
I suspect Mark Andrews and Hollywood Brown are gonna be household names by this time next year.
It's a three TE monster - with Hurst and Boyle, too. They are all huge targets in the passing game and they are capable blockers. Boyle is a monster on the blocks. Can annihilate people.
It was Go Terps, who is almost always right, which really pisses a lot of people off, which in turn is really funny to observe.
I certainly remember Vick being extremely electric, especially because he came before Lamar and at that time we had never seen a QB anywhere close to as fast as that, and it was like 15 years ago so the entire game was slightly slower than it is today (hence making Vick look even faster).
BUT... here's the thing:
I just remember Vick being a much more volatile and borderline "out of control" player, while with Lamar it's so captivating to watch him harness his "electricity" with this almost diabolical focus, perfect control, and masterful grasp of his arsenal of abilities at all times.
Lamar knows just when to let Ingram take it (on the option I mean), when to pull it and run, when to stay in the pocket and simply navigate the rush, when to leave the pocket, what move to make to extend the play, where to go with the ball, what kind of touch to put on the ball, etc. He just utilizes his incredible abilities and skill-set in a way that almost seems so carefully and exactly executed, yet overwhelmingly electric at the same time.
Vick, on the other hand, as amazing as he was-- would seem to just scramble immediately, oftentimes without even looking downfield, causing him to sometimes break off big plays while other times taking big losses, he would run from one side of the field all the way to the other and we would all say WOW, and then he'd chuck the ball 80 yards downfield with a perfect spiral for a TD bomb, and the next drive he'd come out and throw it right over his receiver's head into an awaiting defender's hands.
Vick was a spectacular player and very fun to watch (especially at that time), but the fact that Lamar is as electric as he is yet also so efficient is what makes him even more fun to watch. And by "efficient" I certainly don't just mean that in a "game manager" type of way, I mean he's one of the most efficient QBs I've ever seen and he's efficiency is so lethal that that alone makes him a superstar even before he gets you any rushing yards. He threw the ball 23 times tonight and 5 of them were TDs, and almost the same thing 4 weeks ago he threw it 20 times and 5 of them were TDs. I think the 4 highest single-game QBRs by a QB this season are ALL Lamar Jackson performances, which makes sense when you have multiple games where 25% of your throws are TD passes.
I'm no NFL coach, but one thing I do know is one of the biggest differences between bad teams and good teams, good teams and great teams, is their ability to score 7 in the redzone instead of 3. Hence why Tom Coughlin called it "the green zone" because it's where you make your money. The ability of Lamar to know exactly where to go with the football and accurately fit it into tight traffic with bodies all over the place in a compressed area at the goal line is a HUGE part of why he's so special and why the Ravens are 11-2 right now.
He took a good lick today. He's a little too fearless in the middle of the field, someone is going to get him eventually.
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Go Terps : 2/2/2018 5:28 pm : link
Philly. He can do what Wentz can, but better and healthier.
Go Terps : 2/2/2018 5:28 pm : link
Philly. He can do what Wentz can, but better and healthier.
His mother being an agent would have turned you off I’d bet.
Still has time to evolve as a passer from the pocket even he if gets injured and loses some of his mobility. I think he and Baltimore may face more of a challenge in the playoffs and next year when teams have the chance to study/counter their scheme.
More teams likely to try this style of QB in the future but this will prove extremely difficult as he is so unique.
There were a few other threads mentioning Jackson in broader context.
Harbaugh actually looked a bit taken back from the question and then decided to just smirk and responded with something like "Oh, I think we'll be fine on offense."
Nice job by him and his staff to put up a juggernaught squad and playbook this year...
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was his big advocate in the draft and said we should trade up to the end of Round 1? He was pretty right..
It was Go Terps, who is almost always right, which really pisses a lot of people off, which in turn is really funny to observe.
I do get a kick out of people who swear up and down at him, even after he's proven right. Its like a double down on stupid. I don't agree with Terps all the time, but I respect what he puts out there.
I think the point is - take your fan emotion out of the game and look at it like an outside analyst. What do you see? Everyone is clouded by fandom and optimism. Which doesn't work in the real world.
Hope is not a strategy.
Indeed, I heard a rumor Gettleman renounced him three times before midnight.
Go Terps : 2/2/2018 5:28 pm : link
Philly. He can do what Wentz can, but better and healthier.
Good thing for Seattle you're not their GM either because you would have let Wilson walk after his rookie contract.
Serious question... Where are we today? Right now? Better record? The same? Genuinely curious.
Because on that thread, I saw Go Terps say he would take Barkley at two, which is now viewed as a monumental disaster, and then trade back up for Lamar Jackson, which was very doable for us. We just wouldn't have Will Hernandez.
So knowing all that, where are the Giants today with Barkley and Jackson, hypothetically?
Often he's not even making cuts, he's just turning his shoulders, opening his hips to slightly change the angle and at the speed he's moving tacklers can't get a bead on him.
Serious question... Where are we today? Right now? Better record? The same? Genuinely curious.
Because on that thread, I saw Go Terps say he would take Barkley at two, which is now viewed as a monumental disaster, and then trade back up for Lamar Jackson, which was very doable for us. We just wouldn't have Will Hernandez.
Hypothetically speaking we would probably have a couple more wins but still have a shitty defense and not in the playoff hunt...i’O
He’s only 22 too — younger than Joe Burrrow!
Thank god the Patriots took Sony Michel and not Lamar Jackson. One of my few NFL joys these days is seeing just a few cracks in their machine. I can only imagine what McDaniels and co. could have done with him.
I saw Lamar Jackson play a ton at Louisville. People won't like to hear it on this circlejerk of a thread but there are cracks in Lamars game. He still misses a ton of wide open throws. This Ravens team has more guys running wide open than I have ever seen in NFL football ever. It looks like fucking vintage USC vs little sisters of the poor half the time out there. ThE Ravens seems to have ten opportunities a game like this while other teams get one or two. Its insane. Once the NFL adjusts to Greg Roman and Lamar, Lamar is going to need to step it up as a passer still. Probably won't happen because development of being a pocket passer takes years. I look forward to a Billy B Ravens rematch.
Good point, the giants would probably try to turn him into a pocket passer, or not be capable of instituting an O centered around his abilities.
Serious question... Where are we today? Right now? Better record? The same? Genuinely curious.
Because on that thread, I saw Go Terps say he would take Barkley at two, which is now viewed as a monumental disaster, and then trade back up for Lamar Jackson, which was very doable for us. We just wouldn't have Will Hernandez.
In order for Jackson to be even remotely as successful, the Giants would need to...
- Go all-in on an offense centered around Jackson's strengths
- Improve the offensive line damn near infinitely beyond what it is now. (Only one Giants OL could start in Baltimore)
- Need a head coach who's infinitely better than the one the Giants have
- Need a offensive coordinator with experience calling an offense centered around this type of player
- Need an almost infinite improvement defensively. (Baltimore is somewhere between the 3rd and 10th best defense in the sport over the past 2 seasons based on regular stats and analytics like fo.com)
Basically, IMO, the Giants would be 0% better with Jackson and likely wouldn't be getting the most out of his ability. As much as some people would like to pretend, Jackson isn't playing in a vacuum independent of any outside factors.
I love these call back links -you can actually see who knew wtf they were talking about and who clearly did not. Thank you