We’ve seen plenty of phenoms over the years, but through 14 games, Lamar Jackson is over 1,100 yards rushing (and nearly 7ypc), 7 rushing. TDs, and 33 passing TDs. At age 22. Trying to think of a comparably dominant offensive season ....
Who knows how long he’ll last, but this is pretty spectacular. I remember scoffing after he got beat by the Chargers ... guess I got that one wrong.
Newsome took the risk to draft him. And then Harbaugh and Roman went into the lab to build an offense that fit his game and style.
None of those resources existed at Jints Central. Zero.
It would be extremely cool to be a Ravens fan right now. Not only is your team great, but you’d have the satisfaction of knowing that they outsmarted the league (by building the offense around him) — plus the anticipation of maybe being the one who knocks the Pats off.
Newsome took the risk to draft him. And then Harbaugh and Roman went into the lab to build an offense that fit his game and style.
None of those resources existed at Jints Central. Zero.
Well said.
Newsome took the risk to draft him. And then Harbaugh and Roman went into the lab to build an offense that fit his game and style.
None of those resources existed at Jints Central. Zero.
Maybe we can poach some Ravens front office folks this year?
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pretty damn good chance we would be in the same sinking boat...
Good point, the giants would probably try to turn him into a pocket passer, or not be capable of instituting an O centered around his abilities.
Maybe a 3 year apprenticeship at special teams gunner?
Newsome took the risk to draft him. And then Harbaugh and Roman went into the lab to build an offense that fit his game and style.
None of those resources existed at Jints Central. Zero.
Interesting post season interview from Ravens owner prior to the 2018 draft when they took Jackson:
For the first time publicly, he also acknowledged that he gave consideration to firing Super Bowl-winning head coach John Harbaugh after the Ravens missed the playoffs for the third consecutive season and the fourth time in five years.
“Certainly, it was a thought,” Bisciotti said early in his postseason news conference at the Under Armour Performance Center. “I was very proud of the way John kept fighting, held the team together when we were losing in the middle of the year. … We didn’t perform very well in the middle of the year. I was proud of the way we fought back as a team.”
Firing Harbaugh “was certainly a consideration, but not one that I was inclined to make this year,” Bisciotti added.
So prior to the 2018 draft, it was announced that Harbaugh was on the hot seat and basically better make the playoffs or else. It was also announced that Eric DeCosta, longtime Ravens scout turned Director of College Scouting turned assistant General Manager under Newsome would replace Newsome after the 2018 season regardless of what happened.
The Ravens Way?
Also of note from the same PC:
There’s been plenty said and written this offseason about the Ravens planning for life after Flacco, who just turned 33, and possibly using their first-round draft pick in April on a quarterback. However, Bisciotti said: “That’s not really something that we’re worried about right now. We’ve got bigger fish to fry. … We’re a long way off to have to worry about Joe.”
Bisciotti indicated that the offseason focus will be on getting Flacco help on offense in both free agency and the draft. The owner said much of the team’s organizational meetings at his Jupiter, Fla., home last month were spent exploring ways to add offensive playmakers.
All in for Joe?
“We’ve gone through four offensive coordinators in the last five years, and Joe was comfortable with his relationship with Marty and they produced in the second half of the year,” the owner said. “So John wanted to keep him.”
Loyal to a fault?
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There was no crazy innovation. No hot young candidate of GM/HC neccessary. They just stayed the course, kept Harbaugh for stability and continuity, and promoted their next GM from within.
The big difference is that the Ravens in 2018 were nearly in as bad shape roster wise as the Giants heading into 2018 as the jumping off point. The Ravens got it turned around and we didn't....
Also recall when rumors that Harbaugh was maybe on his way out of the Ravens that certain posters on here indicated Giants should jump on him...
Also recall when rumors that Harbaugh was maybe on his way out of the Ravens that certain posters on here indicated Giants should jump on him...
Yes, I remember. I was one of them.
It's amazing to think how different things could have been had Biscotti "cleaned house".
Staying the course and continuity should be the goal of every organization because it means you're doing enough good things to stick with it. But you have to get the right guy first. I was like a dog waiting for a bone when the rumors were going around that Harbaugh might shake loose after 2017 but for good reason it didn't happen.
We had the right guy for all those years with Coughlin it was just that age started to become a factor. Parting ways with him when we did was not the problem. The 2 guys we've hired since are.
This is a really big hire. We need a 10+ year type of guy. It's possible that could be a college guy like Rhule or the next big coordinator like Richard but I have a feeling they are going to focus on Rivera, Garrett or McCarthy although I'm not sure they'd be as sold on MM because of the McAdoo connection.
Good save. I was just about to post, "What?!"
Ravens were better at o-line, defense (as a whole), and head coach.
The Giants might be the worst in the NFL in ALL three areas.
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underestimated how good Harbaugh may be as a coach, and overestimated how good Flacco is at QB.
Also recall when rumors that Harbaugh was maybe on his way out of the Ravens that certain posters on here indicated Giants should jump on him...
Yes, I remember. I was one of them.
Yah! So was I...
Also recall when rumors that Harbaugh was maybe on his way out of the Ravens that certain posters on here indicated Giants should jump on him...
Isn't that 90 percent of posters? Harbaugh is an excellent coach, not exactly a stretch to say we should hire him.
umm...not so much actually
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underestimated how good Harbaugh may be as a coach, and overestimated how good Flacco is at QB.
Also recall when rumors that Harbaugh was maybe on his way out of the Ravens that certain posters on here indicated Giants should jump on him...
Isn't that 90 percent of posters? Harbaugh is an excellent coach, not exactly a stretch to say we should hire him.
you'd be surprised...
Promoting their GM from within.
What am I missing?
On the Ravens, yeah.
Promoting their GM from within.
What am I missing?
Add keeping their franchise QB on the roster....
There was no crazy innovation. No hot young candidate of GM/HC neccessary. They just stayed the course, kept Harbaugh for stability and continuity, and promoted their next GM from within.
The big difference is that the Ravens in 2018 were nearly in as bad shape roster wise as the Giants heading into 2018 as the jumping off point. The Ravens got it turned around and we didn't....
Are you high?
Are you suggesting the Roman and Harbaugh didn’t completely revamp their offense to fit LJax’s game?
The Ravens under Harbaugh have had ONE losing season in twelve years as HC. They have been considerably more stable than our house on stilts. They had one similar problem - they held on to a failing QB too long. That’s the only comparison.
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you could easily attribute all of the bullet points to being nearly identical to the way the Giants conduct business.
There was no crazy innovation. No hot young candidate of GM/HC neccessary. They just stayed the course, kept Harbaugh for stability and continuity, and promoted their next GM from within.
The big difference is that the Ravens in 2018 were nearly in as bad shape roster wise as the Giants heading into 2018 as the jumping off point. The Ravens got it turned around and we didn't....
Are you high?
Are you suggesting the Roman and Harbaugh didn’t completely revamp their offense to fit LJax’s game?
The Ravens under Harbaugh have had ONE losing season in twelve years as HC. They have been considerably more stable than our house on stilts. They had one similar problem - they held on to a failing QB too long. That’s the only comparison.
Don't deflect. I'm not talking about what they're doing now. It's amazing. Incredible job by Harbaugh and Roman.
I'm talking about how they go there/here.
If I replaced the key players in that PC with the names Mara, Reese, Gettleman, and Eli....
It would have been a Giants Way press conference to the letter of the law. All the things you rail against.
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Letting him keep his coordinators.
Promoting their GM from within.
What am I missing?
Add keeping their franchise QB on the roster....
my point was the Ravens have been far more successful from a winning % standpoint over the past several years so challenging how they run their business versus the Giants would be a brave comparison...
If Jackson was on a team with Barkley, he would be even more effective. Jackson makes Gus Edwards (rookie FA in 2018) average 5.2 YPC in his 2 year career. Barkley would bust through these holes Jackson creates for long run after long run.
Keep the 2.
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Draft Barkley.
Trade up for Jackson.
Run the spread.
Score lots of points.
All you have to do is run the spread you see in high schools now. It doesn’t take a coaching genius to make this call. Adapt to the player.
Barkley and Jackson together would put up more point and be a much tougher team to defend then Jackson with Ingram/Edwards.
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Letting him keep his coordinators.
Promoting their GM from within.
What am I missing?
Add keeping their franchise QB on the roster....
my point was the Ravens have been far more successful from a winning % standpoint over the past several years so challenging how they run their business versus the Giants would be a brave comparison...
They have been more successful at drafting and providing talent. That's the difference. Ozzie Newsome didn't get fired for poor drafting at the end of 2017 like our GM did. He had kept the cupboard stocked.
However, the Ravens were at a crossroads at the start of 2018. They didn't blow it all up, they stayed the course. The Giants... ahem, Ravens Way.
If Jackson was on a team with Barkley, he would be even more effective. Jackson makes Gus Edwards (rookie FA in 2018) average 5.2 YPC in his 2 year career. Barkley would bust through these holes Jackson creates for long run after long run.
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Keep the 2.
KWALL2 : 2/2/2018 1:34 pm : link
Draft Barkley.
Trade up for Jackson.
Run the spread.
Score lots of points.
All you have to do is run the spread you see in high schools now. It doesn’t take a coaching genius to make this call. Adapt to the player.
Barkley and Jackson together would put up more point and be a much tougher team to defend then Jackson with Ingram/Edwards.
"Monumental disaster" is a direct quote.
You overstate how unstable they were, and understate what a real abyss Giants were in...
You overstate how unstable they were, and understate what a real abyss Giants were in...
At what point do you just get tired of dropping truth bombs? I don't understand how people can't see the trainwreck this franchise has been in.
And he'd also still have a job, like Newsome did.
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they made their adjustments and moved along merrily.
You overstate how unstable they were, and understate what a real abyss Giants were in...
At what point do you just get tired of dropping truth bombs? I don't understand how people can't see the trainwreck this franchise has been in.
its the cross I have to bear as an objective poster...
:-)
The monumental disaster was the team building around Barkley. He was an MVP type player in year 1. Not close to a disaster despite the current state of the team.
its a talent issue in the office and as a result on the field...
The monumental disaster was the team building around Barkley. He was an MVP type player in year 1. Not close to a disaster despite the current state of the team.
Agreed.
And he'd also still have a job, like Newsome did.
um...so what? And if someone put some shinewax on Tyree's helmet we would have one less Super Bowl trophy.
Giants wouldn't know how to use Jackson. They don't even know how to use Saquon.
Remind me - what did Eli Manning do in his first playoff game?
whoa...doesn't matter at all?
Yes, everybody likes playoff success but you gotta' get there first...