He's still playing well and provided a veteran presence at corner.
exactly my thought. he probably was, but then he acts like a jerkoff and calls someone retarded and doesnt apologize or see how its ignorant so giants were like okay bye, we dont need that.
let the young kids play
That stuff doesn't mean anything. He didn't get arrested. He didn't get busted snorting lines of a hooker's ass. He used the 'r' word on twitter. BFD.
As for what this team needs...it needs competent football play at many positions, and Jenkins provided that at the CB position.
I can't imagine the Seahawks releasing a guy for stupid shit like this, for example. When you are a football team that cares about the opinions of SJW's and let that dictate your football personnel decisions...you are officially lost.
He's absolutely done taking shit -- from ANYONE, including stupid fans -- for a shit, losing team. I wish him well and hope he signs on with a winner.
Obviously, if the Giants were in the playoff hunt, they wouldn't have moved him over this, and also obvious, they should have moved him at the trade deadline.
This won't be a popular take, but I had no problem with Jenkins' explanation. He said that's how he talks to his homeboys. He said he shouldn't have said, but that's how he talks. That answer wasn't good enough for the PC Twitter crowd looking for penance. He didn't give it them.
Eric, I'm with you all the way about this.
However, the Giants do have to be sensitive about what corporate sponsors might think about what he said. Furthermore, as said many times on this thread yesterday was probably nothing more than the straw that broke the camel's back.
Between his salary, performance, calling out the coaches, Jenkins had this coming.
He's absolutely done taking shit -- from ANYONE, including stupid fans -- for a shit, losing team. I wish him well and hope he signs on with a winner.
Obviously, if the Giants were in the playoff hunt, they wouldn't have moved him over this, and also obvious, they should have moved him at the trade deadline.
This won't be a popular take, but I had no problem with Jenkins' explanation. He said that's how he talks to his homeboys. He said he shouldn't have said, but that's how he talks. That answer wasn't good enough for the PC Twitter crowd looking for penance. He didn't give it them.
100% agree. I guess as a society we have come to expect melodramatic apologies and empty promises to never do such-and-such again.
RE: and so it ends for the great 2016 free agent class Â
He's absolutely done taking shit -- from ANYONE, including stupid fans -- for a shit, losing team. I wish him well and hope he signs on with a winner.
Obviously, if the Giants were in the playoff hunt, they wouldn't have moved him over this, and also obvious, they should have moved him at the trade deadline.
This won't be a popular take, but I had no problem with Jenkins' explanation. He said that's how he talks to his homeboys. He said he shouldn't have said, but that's how he talks. That answer wasn't good enough for the PC Twitter crowd looking for penance. He didn't give it them.
I agree with you. There were plenty of other reasons to trade or cut him. Letting the punt hit the ground and roll to the 1 against the Bears. Or when Alshon Jeffrey got hurt and JJ stopped playing. Jackrabbit? More like Jackass.
Until the Williams trade, I was positive Gettleman was coming back. After that, the Shurmur and staff disaster and now this, I think it's likely he's gone too.
Correct. And even with the tweet, there's more too it than the language he used. The tweet was done during practice while he was getting treatment, at a time when he shouldn't have been tweeting. The coach spoke to him about it and judging by the fact he didn't apologize for it, I can't see the conversation with Shurmur having gone well. This is also the same guy that's complained about coaching recently(though I agree with his points) and has made some "business decisions" during games. Best guess is they weren't going to keep him for 2020 anyway and they made the decision having him around the young players was a detriment to their development.
They still should have traded him at the deadline, or put him on IR and traded him in the off season, but I don't expect much more from our FO at this point.
who should never have passed the filter. He flies under the radar because he's not as famous, but his social media was wild. Far worse than anything the disturbed individuals who policed odell beckham's instgram ever pretended to be outraged by.
Can blame DG, he was a Reese signing. But I agree there were plenty of other legit reasons to cut him.
He's absolutely done taking shit -- from ANYONE, including stupid fans -- for a shit, losing team. I wish him well and hope he signs on with a winner.
Obviously, if the Giants were in the playoff hunt, they wouldn't have moved him over this, and also obvious, they should have moved him at the trade deadline.
This won't be a popular take, but I had no problem with Jenkins' explanation. He said that's how he talks to his homeboys. He said he shouldn't have said, but that's how he talks. That answer wasn't good enough for the PC Twitter crowd looking for penance. He didn't give it them.
100% agree. I guess as a society we have come to expect melodramatic apologies and empty promises to never do such-and-such again.
+1
Why should he kowtow to these people? These people DO NOT actually care about what he said. They care that they can get outraged about something and cause a stink and affect someone's life that doesn't think like them. FUCK THOSE PEOPLE.
Ripped for starting a thread on how Jenkins wasn’t a high character guy. He was kicked off a university of Florida team that was ok with Aaron Hernandez, seems like I might have been right
He's sailed under the radar most of his career for that.
He got popped for misdemeanor marijuana possession, what a piece of shit!
Nobody cares about that, even though he got kicked off the team for it. He's just a generally gross person. He went on twitter to call terelle pryor a "shit eater" a few years ago. He used to post all sorts of grimy shit on social media.
a shit? Really.
It was clear he pissed off the team. It is his MO. I'd bet Tisch and Mara had enough. He wasn't going to be there next year whether this regime is there or not. Does it really matter that he is gone now or in January?
I don't think this says one thing or the other about the future of Â
Gettleman or Shurmur. Fucking McAdoo made one of the most important decisions in Giants history and benched Eli. Soon thereafter, he was fired.
It means nothing and Jackrabbit was most likely not going to be a Giant in 2020 anyway, no matter who the head coach or GM is. What pisses me off is that we didn't sell him when we got the chance and instead bought an unrestricted free agent in a wasted season.
Let's see if Beal and Baker can handle the starting jobs for the rest of the season.
This is an organization that shielded a domestic abuser for Â
Ripped for starting a thread on how Jenkins wasn’t a high character guy. He was kicked off a university of Florida team that was ok with Aaron Hernandez, seems like I might have been right
Hot take. A guy gets kicked off the football team isn't a high character guy? Talk about breaking news!
say this... this is yet ANOTHER example why any smart celebrity should simply not open a Twitter account.
Why not? This is a big win for JJ, if I was on this shit team and I had talent I'd be calling Shurmur a fucking retard on twitter. Oh you're going to release me? Oh no I guess I'll go win a superbowl now and bling for the rest of my life.
Our best corner, playing in a shit scheme, surrounded by inept coaching and guys who are rookies was the least of our problems. Our front office is horrible.
Shoulda tore this shit all the way down from the jump. QB hell?? We were in complete roster hell. Reese going years drafting only captains HAHA, what a joke.
I wasn’t in the ax Gettleman crowd, but this is not good for him in getting nothing for him when he probably could have traded him before.
And honestly, as much as an insensitive thing as it was that he said, talk about getting bent over by this PC culture. My friends and I used to call each other retards in jest, and meant no harm by it, and certainly it was no intentional shot at those with mental issues. Would we say it today? No. I honestly think Jenkins meant the same but he has the eloquence of a doorknob and probably AB’d his way out of here, the same way Shurmur got played by Petersen to burn a timeout.
So we make a bad football move, because he didn’t apologize? What the fuck. He didn’t beat anyone. Caused no serious harm. He had beef w a guy on twitter. BFD.
Before the last few years players were probably calling each other shit like this and far worse on the field, and in front of teammates and officials.
He's absolutely done taking shit -- from ANYONE, including stupid fans -- for a shit, losing team. I wish him well and hope he signs on with a winner.
Obviously, if the Giants were in the playoff hunt, they wouldn't have moved him over this, and also obvious, they should have moved him at the trade deadline.
This won't be a popular take, but I had no problem with Jenkins' explanation. He said that's how he talks to his homeboys. He said he shouldn't have said, but that's how he talks. That answer wasn't good enough for the PC Twitter crowd looking for penance. He didn't give it them.
Eric, totally agree, his explanation should’ve been enough!
Jenkins was the Giants' highest-graded cornerback this season, and led the team in INTs and pass breakups. Link - ( New Window )
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That's really not saying much, based on the talent level here.
He is also mercurial, as we have seen recently.
He is tone deaf as well, he doesn't get it.
when they could have. Something is better than nothing. For a 2 win team, keeping an expensive veteran around doesn't do anything. In fact it's blocked Beal and Baker into sharing snaps when they need reps and they need to be evaluated.
He's absolutely done taking shit -- from ANYONE, including stupid fans -- for a shit, losing team. I wish him well and hope he signs on with a winner.
Obviously, if the Giants were in the playoff hunt, they wouldn't have moved him over this, and also obvious, they should have moved him at the trade deadline.
This won't be a popular take, but I had no problem with Jenkins' explanation. He said that's how he talks to his homeboys. He said he shouldn't have said, but that's how he talks. That answer wasn't good enough for the PC Twitter crowd looking for penance. He didn't give it them.
Eric, totally agree, his explanation should’ve been enough!
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He wasn't talking to his 'homeboys' back home,
he made comments on twitter, major difference.
In today's world, it's going to get attention, that's it.
Just like the coach and front office. Where was the outrage when black eyed peas can out with "Let's get Retarded"? I swear I hate this manufactured outrage.
“This was an organizational decision,” coach Pat Shurmur said. “From ownership to management to our football operations, we felt it was in the best interests of the franchise and the player.”
Just like the coach and front office. Where was the outrage when black eyed peas can out with "Let's get Retarded"? I swear I hate this manufactured outrage.
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He's still playing well and provided a veteran presence at corner.
exactly my thought. he probably was, but then he acts like a jerkoff and calls someone retarded and doesnt apologize or see how its ignorant so giants were like okay bye, we dont need that.
let the young kids play
That stuff doesn't mean anything. He didn't get arrested. He didn't get busted snorting lines of a hooker's ass. He used the 'r' word on twitter. BFD.
As for what this team needs...it needs competent football play at many positions, and Jenkins provided that at the CB position.
I can't imagine the Seahawks releasing a guy for stupid shit like this, for example. When you are a football team that cares about the opinions of SJW's and let that dictate your football personnel decisions...you are officially lost.
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He's absolutely done taking shit -- from ANYONE, including stupid fans -- for a shit, losing team. I wish him well and hope he signs on with a winner.
Obviously, if the Giants were in the playoff hunt, they wouldn't have moved him over this, and also obvious, they should have moved him at the trade deadline.
This won't be a popular take, but I had no problem with Jenkins' explanation. He said that's how he talks to his homeboys. He said he shouldn't have said, but that's how he talks. That answer wasn't good enough for the PC Twitter crowd looking for penance. He didn't give it them.
Eric, I'm with you all the way about this.
However, the Giants do have to be sensitive about what corporate sponsors might think about what he said. Furthermore, as said many times on this thread yesterday was probably nothing more than the straw that broke the camel's back.
Between his salary, performance, calling out the coaches, Jenkins had this coming.
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He's absolutely done taking shit -- from ANYONE, including stupid fans -- for a shit, losing team. I wish him well and hope he signs on with a winner.
Obviously, if the Giants were in the playoff hunt, they wouldn't have moved him over this, and also obvious, they should have moved him at the trade deadline.
This won't be a popular take, but I had no problem with Jenkins' explanation. He said that's how he talks to his homeboys. He said he shouldn't have said, but that's how he talks. That answer wasn't good enough for the PC Twitter crowd looking for penance. He didn't give it them.
100% agree. I guess as a society we have come to expect melodramatic apologies and empty promises to never do such-and-such again.
They're shooting to bring back 15 years of bad football
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He's absolutely done taking shit -- from ANYONE, including stupid fans -- for a shit, losing team. I wish him well and hope he signs on with a winner.
Obviously, if the Giants were in the playoff hunt, they wouldn't have moved him over this, and also obvious, they should have moved him at the trade deadline.
This won't be a popular take, but I had no problem with Jenkins' explanation. He said that's how he talks to his homeboys. He said he shouldn't have said, but that's how he talks. That answer wasn't good enough for the PC Twitter crowd looking for penance. He didn't give it them.
I agree with you. There were plenty of other reasons to trade or cut him. Letting the punt hit the ground and roll to the 1 against the Bears. Or when Alshon Jeffrey got hurt and JJ stopped playing. Jackrabbit? More like Jackass.
Until the Williams trade, I was positive Gettleman was coming back. After that, the Shurmur and staff disaster and now this, I think it's likely he's gone too.
Maybe he's trying for #1 and a trade down. Because they have so many holes, their roster looks like a slice of swiss cheese
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It is becoming increasingly difficult to be a fan of this franchise.
Correct. And even with the tweet, there's more too it than the language he used. The tweet was done during practice while he was getting treatment, at a time when he shouldn't have been tweeting. The coach spoke to him about it and judging by the fact he didn't apologize for it, I can't see the conversation with Shurmur having gone well. This is also the same guy that's complained about coaching recently(though I agree with his points) and has made some "business decisions" during games. Best guess is they weren't going to keep him for 2020 anyway and they made the decision having him around the young players was a detriment to their development.
They still should have traded him at the deadline, or put him on IR and traded him in the off season, but I don't expect much more from our FO at this point.
Could have dealt him for a pick!!
Can blame DG, he was a Reese signing. But I agree there were plenty of other legit reasons to cut him.
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He's absolutely done taking shit -- from ANYONE, including stupid fans -- for a shit, losing team. I wish him well and hope he signs on with a winner.
Obviously, if the Giants were in the playoff hunt, they wouldn't have moved him over this, and also obvious, they should have moved him at the trade deadline.
This won't be a popular take, but I had no problem with Jenkins' explanation. He said that's how he talks to his homeboys. He said he shouldn't have said, but that's how he talks. That answer wasn't good enough for the PC Twitter crowd looking for penance. He didn't give it them.
100% agree. I guess as a society we have come to expect melodramatic apologies and empty promises to never do such-and-such again.
+1
Why should he kowtow to these people? These people DO NOT actually care about what he said. They care that they can get outraged about something and cause a stink and affect someone's life that doesn't think like them. FUCK THOSE PEOPLE.
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Maybe he's trying for #1 and a trade down. Because they have so many holes, their roster looks like a slice of swiss cheese
I’d be down for that as well. Win-win situation. Only way we lose is if we have to take a tackle at 3 or 4
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Ripped for starting a thread on how Jenkins wasn’t a high character guy. He was kicked off a university of Florida team that was ok with Aaron Hernandez, seems like I might have been right
He's sailed under the radar most of his career for that.
He got popped for misdemeanor marijuana possession, what a piece of shit!
Nobody cares about that, even though he got kicked off the team for it. He's just a generally gross person. He went on twitter to call terelle pryor a "shit eater" a few years ago. He used to post all sorts of grimy shit on social media.
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just about a tweet - you're undoubtedly wrong
Ding. Ding.
Except the head coach just said it was the reason. So there's that.
I really don't take much stock in what comes out of Shurmur's mouth anymore...
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It was clear he pissed off the team. It is his MO. I'd bet Tisch and Mara had enough. He wasn't going to be there next year whether this regime is there or not. Does it really matter that he is gone now or in January?
It means nothing and Jackrabbit was most likely not going to be a Giant in 2020 anyway, no matter who the head coach or GM is. What pisses me off is that we didn't sell him when we got the chance and instead bought an unrestricted free agent in a wasted season.
Let's see if Beal and Baker can handle the starting jobs for the rest of the season.
The Giants have now become a franchise that Eli's dad would've told him not to go to in 2004.
Hot take. A guy gets kicked off the football team isn't a high character guy? Talk about breaking news!
Why not? This is a big win for JJ, if I was on this shit team and I had talent I'd be calling Shurmur a fucking retard on twitter. Oh you're going to release me? Oh no I guess I'll go win a superbowl now and bling for the rest of my life.
Our best corner, playing in a shit scheme, surrounded by inept coaching and guys who are rookies was the least of our problems. Our front office is horrible.
Please, fire everyone.
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just about a tweet - you're undoubtedly wrong
Ding. Ding.
Except the head coach just said it was the reason. So there's that.
I really don't take much stock in what comes out of Shurmur's mouth anymore...
on what basis? you may not think he's good coach but now he's a full throated liar too? the timelines seems overwhelmingly against your point.
And honestly, as much as an insensitive thing as it was that he said, talk about getting bent over by this PC culture. My friends and I used to call each other retards in jest, and meant no harm by it, and certainly it was no intentional shot at those with mental issues. Would we say it today? No. I honestly think Jenkins meant the same but he has the eloquence of a doorknob and probably AB’d his way out of here, the same way Shurmur got played by Petersen to burn a timeout.
So we make a bad football move, because he didn’t apologize? What the fuck. He didn’t beat anyone. Caused no serious harm. He had beef w a guy on twitter. BFD.
Before the last few years players were probably calling each other shit like this and far worse on the field, and in front of teammates and officials.
Such a joke.
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He's absolutely done taking shit -- from ANYONE, including stupid fans -- for a shit, losing team. I wish him well and hope he signs on with a winner.
Obviously, if the Giants were in the playoff hunt, they wouldn't have moved him over this, and also obvious, they should have moved him at the trade deadline.
This won't be a popular take, but I had no problem with Jenkins' explanation. He said that's how he talks to his homeboys. He said he shouldn't have said, but that's how he talks. That answer wasn't good enough for the PC Twitter crowd looking for penance. He didn't give it them.
Eric, totally agree, his explanation should’ve been enough!
That's really not saying much, based on the talent level here.
He is also mercurial, as we have seen recently.
He is tone deaf as well, he doesn't get it.
That's been one of the biggest black eyes on the franchise in recent years. Inexcusable in every which way.
Now they get nothing for him.
This team is brutal, and I'm about ready to check out. The league sucks anyway.
Definitely
Who is offending people with disabilities? No one is targeting the mentally handicapped, at all. But hey, I guess I missed Sensitivity Training.
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He's absolutely done taking shit -- from ANYONE, including stupid fans -- for a shit, losing team. I wish him well and hope he signs on with a winner.
Obviously, if the Giants were in the playoff hunt, they wouldn't have moved him over this, and also obvious, they should have moved him at the trade deadline.
This won't be a popular take, but I had no problem with Jenkins' explanation. He said that's how he talks to his homeboys. He said he shouldn't have said, but that's how he talks. That answer wasn't good enough for the PC Twitter crowd looking for penance. He didn't give it them.
Eric, totally agree, his explanation should’ve been enough!
He wasn't talking to his 'homeboys' back home,
he made comments on twitter, major difference.
In today's world, it's going to get attention, that's it.
Fuck DG and timid ass Shurmur.
This is a failure of leadership from Murmur, too.
Now they get nothing for him.
This team is brutal, and I'm about ready to check out. The league sucks anyway.
100% agreed. This is embarrassing.
Now they get nothing for him.
This team is brutal, and I'm about ready to check out. The league sucks anyway.
This is a failure of leadership from Murmur, too.
Who is going to trade for an injured player?
Fuck DG and timid ass Shurmur.
+1 Thanks you.