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"Fire Shurmur" chant on Sunday?

thelazeshow24 : 12/13/2019 2:25 pm
My first Giants game was a cold December day in 1996 against the New Orleans Saints. I will never forget til the day that I die, my uncle standing up and starting a "REEVES MUST GO" chant. Well, our section caught on....followed by our neighboring sections. Before you know it, he had what felt like 3/4 of the stadium chanting the same. At the time I had no idea what was going on, but boy was it awesome.

Needless to say, following the final game of that season Reeves was canned. I will forever attribute that to my Uncles chant (and the fact they were pretty bad).

For those of you going to the game on Sunday, can we start something similar for Shurmur? Maybe something like this will make all of our Giant Christmas wishes come true....him gone.
You  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 12/13/2019 2:27 pm : link
have to have a crowd in order to have a chant.
RE: You  
JerryNicklebag : 12/13/2019 2:29 pm : link
In comment 14717982 Eric from BBI said:
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have to have a crowd in order to have a chant.


LOL!! This is true!

Perhaps the Dolphins fans in attendance will help out and join in.
Maybe you can convince the Dolphins fans to join in  
jcn56 : 12/13/2019 2:30 pm : link
Among the ten of you I'm sure you can get something going.
how about sell the team Mara?  
larryflower37 : 12/13/2019 2:30 pm : link
this has been a horrible 3 year stretch.
Nothing will ever beat the "ray must go"  
Stu11 : 12/13/2019 2:30 pm : link
chants...especially the game where they did it to the tune of the Braves tomahawk chop.
Maybe the PSL effect  
Lines of Scrimmage : 12/13/2019 2:34 pm : link
I am more surprised they have not been doing this for some time now regarding Shurmur.
RE: You  
Ben in Tampa : 12/13/2019 2:35 pm : link
In comment 14717982 Eric from BBI said:
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have to have a crowd in order to have a chant.


lol. You've gotten pretty feisty the last few weeks.
Back in 1992  
Matt in SGS : 12/13/2019 2:37 pm : link
I bought this tee shirt in the parking lot and wore it to the Giants vs. Chiefs game with the goal to boo Ray Handley out of the building. The Chiefs were a playoff team, the Giants were finishing out the season

As it would turn out, the Handley led Giants jumped all over the Chiefs, going up 35-7 and the fans were stunned because we came there to boo.

Anyway, I suppose I could cross out the Ray for Pat, Handley to Shurmur, and change '93 to '20 and see how that goes.



I'd rather hear  
arniefez : 12/13/2019 2:38 pm : link
Thank you Eli Sunday.

Whoever shows up for the last game can chant at the owners, GM and the coaches that day.

But I won't be there so who am I to say what the suckers who bought PSLs should do
RE: You  
Diver_Down : 12/13/2019 2:39 pm : link
In comment 14717982 Eric from BBI said:
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have to have a crowd in order to have a chant.


If someone is loud enough, it will likely echo off the tin can walls and drab grey seats. Such is Meh Life.
LOL  
thelazeshow24 : 12/13/2019 2:42 pm : link
That "Ray Must Go" t-shirt is gold.
RE: You  
widmerseyebrow : 12/13/2019 2:42 pm : link
In comment 14717982 Eric from BBI said:
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have to have a crowd in order to have a chant.


lol

Now back to weeping.
What’s the point?  
ron mexico : 12/13/2019 2:44 pm : link
It’s already over for Pat
In the end  
crick n NC : 12/13/2019 2:44 pm : link
Someone is still losing a job and probably won't ever be a HC again.
.  
Danny Kanell : 12/13/2019 2:47 pm : link
I don't think it's necessary. It's already done.
The only thing it might accomplish is to discourage good coaching  
Ira : 12/13/2019 2:50 pm : link
candidates from coming here.
.  
RD in CT : 12/13/2019 2:51 pm : link
are you 12 years old? why even go to the game? empty seats are louder than your prepubescent voice could ever be
Speaking of crowds....I was laughing pretty hard last night  
GiantBlue : 12/13/2019 2:52 pm : link
when the Raven Crowd was chanting: J- E- T- S- JETS JETS JETS!

They have always been a good crowd base, but they are feeling it this season!
The best message is boycotting the game...  
bw in dc : 12/13/2019 2:54 pm : link
because the real culprits for this disaster are those who hide in their luxury suites.

And spare me "I want to see Eli one more time" bullsh-t.

Stand by the parking lot where the players enter and thank him there. And then leave.
I want PS and staff gone as much as anyone but ...  
Spider56 : 12/13/2019 2:54 pm : link
don’t lose sight of the human element and please keep it civil. I sat next to Mrs Ray Handley in Giants stadium during the 1992 season and it was painful to see her endure 76000 people screaming for her husbands head.
I think it’s a little different with PS.  
Giant John : 12/13/2019 2:56 pm : link
He is a good guy. Just not a winning HC. I’d leave it alone because I have little doubt the chant isn’t going to mean anything. Decision is made. Let him go out with some class.
Hopefully Some  
Trainmaster : 12/13/2019 2:57 pm : link
Eli! Eli! Eli! chants.

Rather than "Fire Shurmur", how about:

"Sell The Team! Sell The Team! Sell The Team!" ?
RE: Nothing will ever beat the  
Mad Mike : 12/13/2019 2:59 pm : link
In comment 14717993 Stu11 said:
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chants...especially the game where they did it to the tune of the Braves tomahawk chop.

Yeah, I remember that, that was pretty good.
RE: I want PS and staff gone as much as anyone but ...  
Optimus-NY : 12/13/2019 3:07 pm : link
In comment 14718035 Spider56 said:
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don’t lose sight of the human element and please keep it civil. I sat next to Mrs Ray Handley in Giants stadium during the 1992 season and it was painful to see her endure 76000 people screaming for her husbands head.


Musta been hard for to realize her hubby bubby was catching/receiving at one of the NJ Turnpike Rest-stops too...
RE: Maybe the PSL effect  
djstat : 12/13/2019 3:10 pm : link
In comment 14717999 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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I am more surprised they have not been doing this for some time now regarding Shurmur.
PSL effect is tough because, PSL owners either have to SELL on their own or turn back to the team for $0. The average owner won't take the loss just to prove a point.
Shurmur is a footnote  
Thankyoueli : 12/13/2019 3:13 pm : link
He'll be gone.

Celebrate the day for Eli and give an MVP chant to our 2 timer.
A bit immature  
hitdog42 : 12/13/2019 3:18 pm : link
The guy was never a good head coach and he still isn’t a head coach. How about chant about the people who brought in a bad coach? The gm and owners - giving people who make bad decisions more opportunities to make bad decisions is a very bad decision!!!

Or just salute Eli Sunday as you should
RE: LOL  
Matt in SGS : 12/13/2019 3:24 pm : link
In comment 14718012 thelazeshow24 said:
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That "Ray Must Go" t-shirt is gold.


Yup, and it still fits!

The weather is supposed to be nice (for a change) on Sunday, so I'm going to go with my sons, who have only known Eli as the QB (up until this year), so this will be their chance to see him one final time. The game will have all the intensity of a pre-season game, but whatever. I actually think the Giants will win on Sunday and ruin any shot at #1, but I think they will still get the #2 pick even beating Miami.
What about DG  
V.I.G. : 12/13/2019 3:25 pm : link
Hey Hey / Ho Ho
Gettleman's got to go!
Ho Ho / Hey Hey


I couldn't yell that more than once without a lozenges break

but I'll chip in for a flyover banner
RE: RE: LOL  
Rjanyg : 12/13/2019 3:49 pm : link
In comment 14718103 Matt in SGS said:
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In comment 14718012 thelazeshow24 said:


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That "Ray Must Go" t-shirt is gold.



Yup, and it still fits!

The weather is supposed to be nice (for a change) on Sunday, so I'm going to go with my sons, who have only known Eli as the QB (up until this year), so this will be their chance to see him one final time. The game will have all the intensity of a pre-season game, but whatever. I actually think the Giants will win on Sunday and ruin any shot at #1, but I think they will still get the #2 pick even beating Miami.


Matt,

If I remember correctly Banks had a great day and he was playing with out LT.
RE: RE: LOL  
smshmth8690 : 12/13/2019 4:05 pm : link
In comment 14718103 Matt in SGS said:
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In comment 14718012 thelazeshow24 said:


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That "Ray Must Go" t-shirt is gold.



Yup, and it still fits!

The weather is supposed to be nice (for a change) on Sunday, so I'm going to go with my sons, who have only known Eli as the QB (up until this year), so this will be their chance to see him one final time. The game will have all the intensity of a pre-season game, but whatever. I actually think the Giants will win on Sunday and ruin any shot at #1, but I think they will still get the #2 pick even beating Miami.


Tell me if anyone remembers this shirt from the parking lot, I wish I had a picture of it. It was from around, or a little before 1980. It said "I'm a Giants Fan", and it had a picture of a guy crying in his beer. I think it cost me 7 bucks. I tore it up when they won SB21.
In 1983 the fans were screaming...  
Milton : 12/13/2019 4:05 pm : link
"Parcells Must Go!" and "We Want Madden!"

Fuck the fans! How would you like it if someone came to your place of work and chanted "Fire Lazy Show!" at the top of their drunk-ass lungs? As Bill Polian once said, "If you listen to fans, pretty soon you'll be sitting with them."
Do we really want to be like every other crappy fan base  
dee-fense : 12/13/2019 4:06 pm : link
and not too far from the Eagles mob?

Guys, not the several who get it...but COME ON MAN!

I really enjoy the NY Giants organization as it represents a certain class, bedrock of NFL enterprise. Wellington wanted shared revenues as he saw the bigger picture, yada yada.

Yes it sucked for last 6-7 years. But this is a classic gold franchise and always will be.

PS is gone. Let it go. Bad coaching. We will get it turned around ...whenever but we will.

Would the greatest face of the franchise boo and chant "Fire Shurmur?" Hell no and neither should we.

Ownership may not be as astute as some others and not have a Tier 1 organization right now. But I am convinced they care about winning...big time..the NY market will always be critical to NFL revenue success so we will always have a little NFL assistance tailwind to get NY Giants as solid franchise (remember G Young move by Rozelle)

Let's enjoy the process...even if it takes a few more years. As someone who endured the 15 YEARS OF LOUSY FOOTBALL, all of it, as a younger lad, you can't be a true fan unless you ride the lows and the highs ....

Enjoy your life and the drama of being a NY Giants fan through thick and thin...with class and perspective.

Let's not degenerate to the mob of the Colisseum mentality. It's not gonna help and only degrade our own lives...

I have had jobs that weren't great fits for me. Let's not attribute ill will, corporate greed, gross negligence, and malfeasance to FO, Ownership, Coaches etc....shit happens.

Coughlin was so right in that "It's not how many times you fall down, but how many you get back up!" Let's heed those words as we enjoy the next upcycle...it's coming. Sure as the sun rising in the East..

Happy Holidays all.
Soap box sermon over...
dee-fense  
DavidinBMNY : 12/13/2019 4:15 pm : link
While I agree with the "treat from class perspective" I disagree with the stodgy, methodical pace the Giants take. When, Tisch said something "End of the season" comment, I don't agree with that thinking anymore.

Look across at the premiere league. Tottenham, a big 6 club was faltering. They fired their beloved manager just shy of 1/2 through the season citing poor results for roughly a year of play. They've won 4 out of 6 matches since with a Manager who barely knows his squad.

Everything is faster these days. Your internet is faster, you get your information faster, Amazon delivers your package faster. The approach ownership is taking is outdated.

Same team, different times. You can still treat with class and dignity, and move with the expediency of the modern world.
RE: I think it’s a little different with PS.  
yatqb : 12/13/2019 4:20 pm : link
In comment 14718040 Giant John said:
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He is a good guy. Just not a winning HC. I’d leave it alone because I have little doubt the chant isn’t going to mean anything. Decision is made. Let him go out with some class.


John, exactly my sentiments. He's a good guy; just not a good HC. Let the man go with dignity.
RE: Nothing will ever beat the 'ray must go'  
Del Shofner : 12/13/2019 4:25 pm : link
In comment 14717993 Stu11 said:
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chants...especially the game where they did it to the tune of the Braves tomahawk chop.


No love for the "Goodbye Allie" song? I think that was the original in this category.
RE: RE: RE: LOL  
Matt in SGS : 12/13/2019 4:44 pm : link
In comment 14718155 Rjanyg said:
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In comment 14718103 Matt in SGS said:


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That "Ray Must Go" t-shirt is gold.



Yup, and it still fits!

The weather is supposed to be nice (for a change) on Sunday, so I'm going to go with my sons, who have only known Eli as the QB (up until this year), so this will be their chance to see him one final time. The game will have all the intensity of a pre-season game, but whatever. I actually think the Giants will win on Sunday and ruin any shot at #1, but I think they will still get the #2 pick even beating Miami.



Matt,

If I remember correctly Banks had a great day and he was playing with out LT.


i think it was Pepper actually (I have the game on tape, I can go back and check). I know Hampton went off, he had 3 TDs in the game.
Maybe if they can get...  
morrison40 : 12/13/2019 5:05 pm : link
all 199 of the Giants fans together that actually show up 😂
RE: Speaking of crowds....I was laughing pretty hard last night  
gmenatlarge : 12/13/2019 5:20 pm : link
In comment 14718030 GiantBlue said:
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when the Raven Crowd was chanting: J- E- T- S- JETS JETS JETS!

They have always been a good crowd base, but they are feeling it this season!


I have always found that somewhat small and petty to mock your opponent with their own chants, it’s not enough t9 just celebrate your win, you have to rub your opponents nose in it?
"Fire Shurmur is useless".  
FStubbs : 12/13/2019 7:12 pm : link
"Fire your brother" would be much more effective and to the point of the problems with this team.
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Mendenhall64 : 12/13/2019 7:24 pm : link
In comment 14718386 FStubbs said:
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"Fire your brother" would be much more effective and to the point of the problems with this team.


Do you know what are the brother's responsibilities?
Serves no purpose  
AcesUp : 12/13/2019 7:31 pm : link
Other than being an asshole to a guy that’s only sin is being a bad NFL head coach. He’s already gone, this would be low rent.
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FStubbs : 12/13/2019 8:15 pm : link
In comment 14718389 Mendenhall64 said:
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"Fire your brother" would be much more effective and to the point of the problems with this team.



Do you know what are the brother's responsibilities?


All I can go by is 1) What the team claims his title is and 2) the fact that the team is on record with a "committee" approach to the roster.

Chris Mara is Senior Vice President of Player Personnel. Well, since he took that role, our player personnel have sucked. And since 2017, this team is literally worst in the NFL. You tell me if any other "President of Player Personnel" would still have that position in another organization with that kind of record. If his name weren't Mara he'd have been canned with Reese and Ross.
RE: RE: Nothing will ever beat the 'ray must go'  
Raultney : 12/13/2019 8:22 pm : link
In comment 14718211 Del Shofner said:
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No love for the "Goodbye Allie" song? I think that was the original in this category.

Most of these guys weren't even born before 1969. I remember "Goodbye Allie" very well.
Anybody remember the chants of...  
Milton : 12/13/2019 8:54 pm : link
"We want Madden" when he was in the TV booth announcing a game that Parcells was coaching?
I remember  
13ODB : 12/13/2019 9:44 pm : link
That game. Saints were terrible and kept us out of the endzone.. Saints came to giants stadium 1995 1996 1997 1999 and 2001. Giants seemed to play them every year since 1984.
I was at the Panther game  
13ODB : 12/13/2019 9:48 pm : link
In 2003 and there were fire Fassel chants the throughout that entire game even tho it was already announced he was going to be fired after the season days ago
Grown man chanting for  
UConn4523 : 12/13/2019 9:48 pm : link
a guy to be fired. Cool.

Shurmur needs to go but I couldn’t imagine getting all pumped up to chant about wanting him fired.
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Mendenhall64 : 12/14/2019 12:00 am : link
In comment 14718430 FStubbs said:
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In comment 14718389 Mendenhall64 said:


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In comment 14718386 FStubbs said:


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"Fire your brother" would be much more effective and to the point of the problems with this team.



Do you know what are the brother's responsibilities?



All I can go by is 1) What the team claims his title is and 2) the fact that the team is on record with a "committee" approach to the roster.

Chris Mara is Senior Vice President of Player Personnel. Well, since he took that role, our player personnel have sucked. And since 2017, this team is literally worst in the NFL. You tell me if any other "President of Player Personnel" would still have that position in another organization with that kind of record. If his name weren't Mara he'd have been canned with Reese and Ross.


In other words, you don't know.


But since his name is Mara, he must suck at his job. He was Vice President of Player Evaluation in 2003 and promoted to Senior Vice President of Player Personnel in 2011. The Giants won 2 Superbowls in that timeframe. Just admit that you and the other experts here don't have a clue as to who does what in the organization, just like me.
That's not a good chant  
Vanzetti : 12/14/2019 12:33 am : link
no rhythm

Shurmur sucks is better. Plus, that way you are not taking a man's job but instead pointing out a fact
Make A Statement  
noro9 : 12/14/2019 7:16 am : link
Don't go. Or sell your tickets to the opposing team's fans, if there are any
Better just not to go  
ZogZerg : 12/14/2019 7:52 am : link
If you go, cheer for Eli.
I'm left wondering  
an_idol_mind : 12/14/2019 8:05 am : link
why some folks here follow football.

Between cheering for losses and making plans to be public assholes to a guy who is likely already getting fired, I have no idea where the joy in football for you lies.
Public shaming  
exiled : 12/14/2019 9:07 am : link
Kicking the dog on his way out is always a classy move
RE: The best message is boycotting the game...  
djm : 12/14/2019 9:33 am : link
In comment 14718034 bw in dc said:
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because the real culprits for this disaster are those who hide in their luxury suites.

And spare me "I want to see Eli one more time" bullsh-t.

Stand by the parking lot where the players enter and thank him there. And then leave.


This I agree with.
A few questions....  
rmc3981 : 12/14/2019 10:18 am : link
(1) Why do people refer to Shurmur as a horrible HC but a "nice guy"? Based on what?
(2) What the heck is wrong in any way, shape or form with saying that you're going to the game to see Eli play? The seeming distain for a two time SB champion eludes me. Your kid has only had Eli at QB for his lifetime and you want to take him to possibly his last game? What's wrong with that? A bunch of snarky people on BBI. SMH
disdain...  
rmc3981 : 12/14/2019 10:22 am : link
...
I am a STH and  
redwhiteandbigblue : 12/14/2019 11:22 am : link
yes, I want Schurmur and Baettcher and Gettlemen fired at seasons end BUT I am going to the game hoping Eli gets fan support for all he has done for this organization both on and off the field. Total class and I hope that whatever true longtime Giant fans attend, will give him his due. I know I will. For me, tomorrow will be a bit sad no matter the outcome.
it's hard to top booing Santa Claus  
gtt350 : 12/14/2019 11:34 am : link
that had to be a hoot though
RE: RE: RE: RE:  
FStubbs : 12/14/2019 5:51 pm : link
In comment 14718559 Mendenhall64 said:
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In comment 14718389 Mendenhall64 said:


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In comment 14718386 FStubbs said:


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"Fire your brother" would be much more effective and to the point of the problems with this team.



Do you know what are the brother's responsibilities?



All I can go by is 1) What the team claims his title is and 2) the fact that the team is on record with a "committee" approach to the roster.

Chris Mara is Senior Vice President of Player Personnel. Well, since he took that role, our player personnel have sucked. And since 2017, this team is literally worst in the NFL. You tell me if any other "President of Player Personnel" would still have that position in another organization with that kind of record. If his name weren't Mara he'd have been canned with Reese and Ross.



In other words, you don't know.


But since his name is Mara, he must suck at his job. He was Vice President of Player Evaluation in 2003 and promoted to Senior Vice President of Player Personnel in 2011. The Giants won 2 Superbowls in that timeframe. Just admit that you and the other experts here don't have a clue as to who does what in the organization, just like me.


What a moronic post. By your logic, none of us should ever post any opinion on these forums, because we don't know what's going on in the organization. Hey, Bettcher might be a Bill Belichick level genius, but the players just aren't getting it. Or Shurmur might be messing with his game plans. We don't know, right? Can't criticize him! Or maybe Beckham had legitimate points while he was here about the state of the team. Do you know him? I don't! Can't criticize him! If you take your post seriously, do us all a favor and stop posting since you "don't know".

As far as Mara goes, if you think he got that job in 2003 because he was legitimately the most qualified for the job, then I don't really know what to say to you. We did win 2 Superbowls with him in the lesser position, but none since. Clearly something happened to the team - and its personnel - once he was promoted. And my point stands, anybody else in that position NOT named Mara would've been fired with Reese and Ross.
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