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Josh Allen sets Jaguar rookie record for sacks

since1925 : 12/13/2019 2:57 pm
There are still three games to go.

In 13 games, Allen has set a Jaguars' rookie record in sacks with nine while also collecting 10 tackles for loss and two forced fumbles. He has been everything Jacksonville needed in an edge rusher opposite Yannick Ngakoue and more. Although the Jags have been eliminated from the post season, Allen says he is still motivated to get better every week.

Enquiring minds want to know.
Chase Young > Josh Allen  
Brown Recluse : 12/13/2019 2:58 pm : link
.
Inquiring minds want to know what?  
Britt in VA : 12/13/2019 2:59 pm : link
?
Hindsight  
Jon in NYC : 12/13/2019 3:01 pm : link
is 20/20 and it may not play out this way, but I still think I'd rather have Daniel Jones and Chase Young than Josh Allen and Joe Burrow.
Spilled milk  
Beef Wellington : 12/13/2019 3:04 pm : link
But we should have two Josh Allen’s on the team. Just saying.
and yet the Jaguars Defense ...  
Jim from Katonah : 12/13/2019 3:06 pm : link
... is getting embarrassed/destroyed every week.

Let’s trade down like the good teams do and start filling some holes. Clowney, Garrett, Mack (Oak), JJ Watt ... all those defenses stunk too. It’s not the NBA.
How  
Les in TO : 12/13/2019 3:11 pm : link
Would the Giants look with a true hog mollie in Quentin Nelson and a pass rushing force in Allen.
RE: and yet the Jaguars Defense ...  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/13/2019 3:14 pm : link
In comment 14718071 Jim from Katonah said:
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... is getting embarrassed/destroyed every week.

Let’s trade down like the good teams do and start filling some holes. Clowney, Garrett, Mack (Oak), JJ Watt ... all those defenses stunk too. It’s not the NBA.


Passing up on special players is silly, especially when your reason for doing so is "we dont have enough average players". Those teams suck because they had a special player and didn't get anyone else to play with him.
What is their  
cjac : 12/13/2019 3:16 pm : link
record?
If we only had josh Allen  
Jint Fan in Buc Land : 12/13/2019 3:18 pm : link
We’d be in the playoffs and vying for a title like the jaguars
LT played on a 3-12-1 team  
Shirk130 : 12/13/2019 3:25 pm : link
guess he sucked
He's still raw too...  
bw in dc : 12/13/2019 3:25 pm : link
There is a lot of upside still...
RE: How  
Brown Recluse : 12/13/2019 3:34 pm : link
In comment 14718084 Les in TO said:
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Would the Giants look with a true hog mollie in Quentin Nelson and a pass rushing force in Allen.


They'd still look like shit.
Another  
PaulN : 12/13/2019 3:38 pm : link
Fuck up, one after the other, and no end in sight.
I really wanted Josh Allen this past draft  
Rjanyg : 12/13/2019 3:41 pm : link
The Jones selection floored me. But looking at how well Jones has played and the fact we needed a QB is makes sense.

Chase Young would be a nice fall back plan lol.
RE: Another  
Jim from Katonah : 12/13/2019 3:41 pm : link
In comment 14718131 PaulN said:
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Fuck up, one after the other, and no end in sight.


Seemingly not much urgency to turn it around either. At least Jerry Jones seems to give a shit.
RE: How  
Giants38 : 12/13/2019 4:24 pm : link
In comment 14718084 Les in TO said:
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Would the Giants look with a true hog mollie in Quentin Nelson and a pass rushing force in Allen.


You want to know what is comical? People here want DSG gone - including me - yet I see many referring to OL and DL as "hog mollies," which is DSG's stupid term for them.

The people that hate the Jones pick are going to constantly lament that we passed on Josh Allen. I don't hate the pick; in fact, I am optimistic that the Giants have found their franchise QB.

There was a tweet this morning of starting QBs who have thrown the highest percentage of passes under pressure. Jones was leading the way with 50% of his passes being thrown under pressure. Now, could some of that be a result of holding onto the ball too long? I suppose. But this is a major problem. So maybe, just maybe, people will wait until Jones has a decent OL and most, if not all, of his weapons healthy before labeling him a mediocre QB or a bust.
We had a trade in place for him.  
Rico : 12/13/2019 4:35 pm : link
But it got shot down once Jax took him. Otherwise, he would be in blue.
but  
jtfuoco : 12/13/2019 4:38 pm : link
imagine a defense where you have both Josh Allen and Chase young but you have Eli still sitting there at QB or Drew Lock now that would be intriguing
I wish they would have taken him at 6  
JerryNicklebag : 12/13/2019 5:06 pm : link
And then worked out something to move back up and get Jones if that is what they really wanted.

If Jones winds up being a bust and Allen a star....
Jones >>>>>>Allen  
Stan in LA : 12/13/2019 5:22 pm : link
'nuff said.
RE: How  
djm : 12/13/2019 5:27 pm : link
In comment 14718084 Les in TO said:
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Would the Giants look with a true hog mollie in Quentin Nelson and a pass rushing force in Allen.


Probably 2-11. Maybe 3-10. Let’s go crazy and say 4-9.

Never mind that Barkley has basically been shot all season.
Tank????  
morrison40 : 12/13/2019 6:00 pm : link
This team can’t win when it plays as hard as it can.
Tank????  
morrison40 : 12/13/2019 6:01 pm : link
This team can’t win when it plays as hard as it can.
I wouldn’t trade Jones for him  
AcesUp : 12/13/2019 6:06 pm : link
Although I fully acknowledge that this comment can look stupid in a couple of years. There’s just way more upside with Jones at QB, no matter how good Allen looks as a rookie at DE.
RE: RE: How  
giantstock : 12/13/2019 6:45 pm : link
In comment 14718281 djm said:
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In comment 14718084 Les in TO said:


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Would the Giants look with a true hog mollie in Quentin Nelson and a pass rushing force in Allen.



Probably 2-11. Maybe 3-10. Let’s go crazy and say 4-9.

Never mind that Barkley has basically been shot all season.


And maybe Barkley being banged up is the reason why you never take a RB with the 2nd overall pick.

Listen I'm okay wiht it providing DG follows up and gets some OL.

But until DG does this-- posters like you are always going to be making excuses for Barkley and Jones. It's not their fault. But they do need a better OL however before their potential can thrive.

Meanwhile....  
KWALL2 : 12/13/2019 7:04 pm : link
They get stomped every week vs the run (and pass.)

I’ll take Jones all day.
RE: Hindsight  
jeff57 : 12/13/2019 7:36 pm : link
In comment 14718055 Jon in NYC said:
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is 20/20 and it may not play out this way, but I still think I'd rather have Daniel Jones and Chase Young than Josh Allen and Joe Burrow.


How about Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson.
RE: LT played on a 3-12-1 team  
Jint Fan in Buc Land : 12/13/2019 7:37 pm : link
In comment 14718105 Shirk130 said:
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guess he sucked


Josh Allen is LT now. That escalated quickly.
53%  
shyster : 12/13/2019 8:01 pm : link
That's Allen's defensive snap count percentage the last eight weeks.

And he was playing more the first few weeks of the season, so it's not a case of easing the rookie into things.

If the coach thinks the defense is better without you for half the plays, that might say something.

Because I'm a believer in Jones,  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/13/2019 8:06 pm : link
I'm not mad we missed out on Allen. And I think Young will be a Giant come the spring.
He sure turned that tough Jags D around  
ZogZerg : 12/14/2019 7:53 am : link
..
Barkely-Jones and hopefully Chase will be debated for years  
George from PA : 12/14/2019 8:05 am : link
With Darnold, Josh Allen etc.

I feel the Giants will end up in pretty good shape by comparison.

Now, Lamar Jackson would skew it .....but he was not in the top QB discussion at the time and totally 20/20 hindsight.
Barkely-Jones and hopefully Chase will be debated for years  
George from PA : 12/14/2019 8:06 am : link
With Darnold, Josh Allen etc.

I feel the Giants will end up in pretty good shape by comparison.

Now, Lamar Jackson would skew it .....but he was not in the top QB discussion at the time and totally 20/20 hindsight.
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