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It’s time to tank these last 3 games

Jim from Katonah : 12/13/2019 3:32 pm
I’ve been a big proponent of “there are no meaningless games” and “it’s good for the young guys to feel like they are part of a winner” blah blah. The collapse in the 2nd half v the Iggs both made me realize the depth of the team’s ineptness and how wrong I was. It’s time to lose and turn their no. 1 or 2 overall pick into a big haul.

Giants have Miami, Skins, Iggs left. Bengals have NE, Dolphins, Browns left. Not sure whether the Bengals can beat Miami and/or the Browns, but it’s possible. And with Miami having three no. 1s this year, and likely coveting Burrow, this is a huge opportunity.

No point in winning.  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/13/2019 3:32 pm : link
Just lose, baby.
How will you be able to tell  
Jimmy Googs : 12/13/2019 3:33 pm : link
really?
Giants have no need to tank  
Vanzetti : 12/13/2019 3:34 pm : link
because they just plain suck and will lose on their own merits.
I agree losing = winning...  
bw in dc : 12/13/2019 3:36 pm : link
but out of curiosity, I'd like to see Taney play games.

The Eli Show is just a bunch of old repeats; and let Jones get completely healed up...
RE: Giants have no need to tank  
Victor in CT : 12/13/2019 3:36 pm : link
In comment 14718123 Vanzetti said:
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because they just plain suck and will lose on their own merits.


Yep. And Shurmur will always find a way to lose.
RE: How will you be able to tell  
Jim from Katonah : 12/13/2019 3:37 pm : link
In comment 14718119 Jimmy Googs said:
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really?


This week will be the first time ever I’ll be rooting against them. Oyy.
HA HA HA HA HA  
PaulN : 12/13/2019 3:41 pm : link
They don't need to tank, they are not as good as any team in the league right now, they are the worst football team in the NFL, and that includes the Bengals.
If last season's wins at the end of the season didn't prove that...  
BestFeature : 12/13/2019 3:45 pm : link
...winning meaningless games at the end of a year doesn't have morale carry over, nothing will.
Wait, have they not been tanking?  
mikeinbloomfield : 12/13/2019 3:45 pm : link
Could have fooled me.
RE: Wait, have they not been tanking?  
Jim from Katonah : 12/13/2019 3:55 pm : link
In comment 14718150 mikeinbloomfield said:
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Could have fooled me.


In my delusional brain, I still sort of viewed the Giants as a proud franchise in the Steelers vein that maybe could rise up over these last games ... that died when 1. Boston Scott ran over them and 2. they didn’t cover Ertz on the goal line.
RE: Giants have no need to tank  
ImJustSaying : 12/13/2019 4:10 pm : link
In comment 14718123 Vanzetti said:
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because they just plain suck and will lose on their own merits.


GIANTS don't suck! The coaching staff sucks. You want to build an offense around a mediocre QB, Eli clone that's a tad bit blessed with speed.... But you have the best RB in the league and he's not getting enough touches to make an impact. Football Never Changes....the run will open the pass. Help the QB out!! ImJustSaying: They put 7 in the box; RB is hot right now. And Saquon in open space; one-on-one; I will take that bet, and raise you two!! We don't even run a screen to settle the d-line down....wait...maybe I should coach huh? First 3 picks need to be Defense, trade 2-7 rounds and a 4th for a 3 pick at least. 4 top round picks DE, CB, cover OlB, speed WR for a deep threat. Our DT's are Good, just need someone who's gonna force a double team.
You all are fools  
djstat : 12/13/2019 4:23 pm : link
If you think professional athletes will tank on purpose you really are not smart. These guys are playing for their careers, futures and jobs. That said, they will still lose.
i think they lose out  
DavidinBMNY : 12/13/2019 4:23 pm : link
They simply don't know how to win. Losing the Eagles game shows all you need to see. Washington and Miami are starting to build up - they should take us. And no way we beat the Eagles. 2-14 looks realistic.

Oh and by the way if they manage to somehow win 1, they are probably so bad they still pick #2 overall.
If we lose out could  
Bleedin Blue : 12/13/2019 4:43 pm : link
We possibly wind up in the #1 slot??
If so, do we pick Young at one or do we move down, if we did how far down could we go and still get Young? I don’t follow college, so is there anyone comparable to Young?
Many are not seeing this, but  
5BowlsSoon : 12/13/2019 4:48 pm : link
We also released JJ to increase our chances of losing. DG knows he is our best CB, so take him away should allow teams to pass against us even more. Besides, I’m pretty sure Gmen didn’t want to pay JJ 11 million next year so he was going to be gone anyhow after the season, so why not now instead?

DG knows what he is doing.
RE: You all are fools  
Jimmy Googs : 12/13/2019 4:52 pm : link
In comment 14718206 djstat said:
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If you think professional athletes will tank on purpose you really are not smart. These guys are playing for their careers, futures and jobs. That said, they will still lose.


Agree they will not tank. But its foolish to think there will not be a few half-assed efforts out there between now and end of the season. In same mode as that moron safety we had last year that didnt want to tackle vs Dallas in the last game...Riley?

Lets see who does it...
Expect business decisions  
Thegratefulhead : 12/13/2019 4:58 pm : link
Up and down the roster.
Arguably the worst team in the NFL  
BigBlueinChicago : 12/13/2019 5:25 pm : link
does not need to tank.

They have lost 35 of last 45 and have lost 9 in a row. They do a good job of losing on their own to where the tank is not needed.
You Think Eli Manning Is Going to "Tank"  
clatterbuck : 12/13/2019 5:31 pm : link
his last home game possibly his last game as NY Giants quarterback? The whole idea of "tanking" is ludicrous, especially so in this case.
They just need to be themselves  
.McL. : 12/13/2019 5:38 pm : link
Play to their potential...

And finish 2 - 14.
Have you guys ever played on any level?  
Mendenhall64 : 12/13/2019 5:44 pm : link
When you don't play hard, chances of injury go up. Business decisions will be called out and LOWER your value.

Just look at Miami. Everyone said they were tanking. Once the game started, the players played.
If you have an ounce of sportsmanship  
KeoweeFan : 12/13/2019 5:51 pm : link
and integrity you don't "tank".

I know it's a thin line, but on the other hand, sitting starters with even a slight injury, and going out of your way to evaluate and give experience to important rookies when you chances at a playoff are nil would be smart football and somethings the fans would understand.
Tanking is for the NBA  
Bluesbreaker : 12/13/2019 7:35 pm : link
Not the NFL you will get your head knocked off
its a fallacy ............
It doesn’t work  
exiled : 12/13/2019 10:12 pm : link
Have you noticed? We’ve a great draft position for the better part of seven years. We’re worse than ever. What gives you such faith in a good draft pick? This team needs so much more than a fucking good draft pick. We need a competent TEAM, not one guy.

Meanwhile, we read essentially this same post EVERY DAY.
People actually think  
LS : 12/14/2019 9:03 am : link
that if this organization moves up a place or 2 in the drafting order that it is really going to make any difference? It's not. Shurmur is gone no matter the coming game results, so I'm still rooting for wins. I hate losing, at anything, it pisses me off. Maybe we need a lot more players that feel like I do.
I marvel at these types of posts  
joeinpa : 12/14/2019 12:55 pm : link
Name one person who can really impact the game tomorrow that has anything to gain by tanking.

None of the coaches or players, maybe Gettleman. But if you believe John Mara would go through Gettleman to tank, I believe you are very wrong about that
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