Now the talk gets real. At least until we know about BB’s contract.
this is the first time BB has been in the offseason when we were still trying to fill our coaching search. Its a looooooong shot but he at least isnt focusing on a playoff game to prepare for.
I’m sending a recruiting group consisting of LT, Banks, Carson, Van Pelt and for the hell of it, Daniel Jones with a speaker blaring that song “I’m coming home”
but if Bill Belichick shows any kind of interest the coaching search starts and ends with what he wants to do. He's still the best coach in the world and he can still coach 4-5 more years
He comes here with Gettleman still here and so far involved in coaching interviews. He’d have to be fired.
This is a pipe dream guys.
LOL. Yeah, ownership is not going to pass on Bill Belichick for Dave fucking Gettleman. If Belichick is interested, they can reassign Gettleman.
Seriously, the only thing that would possibly delay the Giants moving on BB would be Mara needing to change his pants because he shit himself with glee. There's nobody in this org worth sticking to if it costs you Belichick.
He comes here with Gettleman still here and so far involved in coaching interviews. He’d have to be fired.
This is a pipe dream guys.
LOL. Yeah, ownership is not going to pass on Bill Belichick for Dave fucking Gettleman. If Belichick is interested, they can reassign Gettleman.
Gettleman, from his own words, wasn't involved with the firing of Pat Shurmur. That was strictly coming from Ownership. DG is in no position to object to BB coming, and why should he? I'm sure BB and DG know each other, and working together won't be an issue.
Kraft in NE was in a quandry...he has NO QB if Brady leaves, and why should Brady stay if McDaniels is hired somewhere else? The best way for Kraft to keep Brady is to give the HC position to McDaniels. And my impression is that Kraft would much prefer to keep Tom Brady than keep Bill.
RE: Jerry Jones is thinking the same thing though Â
The only words from Mara and Tisch should be “yes sir” and “right away sir.” If he wants. DG our or marginalized, it is done. If he wants Mara and Tisch chasing frisbees at halftime during home games, you do it.
It’s fun to dream but I don’t think this happens. But agree you have to put in a call and see if there is any possibility.
it would be to have Belichick patrolling the Giants sidelines as head coach. As Sean said, at least we’ll know for sure if there is any truth to these rumblings. Now or never.
Brady is a free agent, can't be franchised. It's not up to Belichick to resign Brady, Brady needs to WANT to come back. IMO, he won't come back if McDaniels leaves.
Brady is a free agent, can't be franchised. It's not up to Belichick to resign Brady, Brady needs to WANT to come back. IMO, he won't come back if McDaniels leaves.
Brady would come back to the Pats if they’ll have him, I think. The question is whether Belichick wants to try it with Brady instead of going with a younger QB, I can also easily see Belichick leave and Mcdaniels elevated to Pats head coach.
I don't think this is right. Kraft only offered a one year deal going into 2019. So he sees the finish line and there will be no mandate to re-sign Brady...
To every every dynasty. It was an incredible run. Whether he and TB stay or go, the run is over. I would be surprised if either of them were ever on a sideline other than NE. I know what’s in it for us. What’s in it for BB?
I don't think this is right. Kraft only offered a one year deal going into 2019. So he sees the finish line and there will be no mandate to re-sign Brady...
Except we don’t know if that was BB or Kraft. If it becomes a true “me or him” scenario, do you think Kraft chooses BB over Tom? Cause I don’t.
To every every dynasty. It was an incredible run. Whether he and TB stay or go, the run is over. I would be surprised if either of them were ever on a sideline other than NE. I know what’s in it for us. What’s in it for BB?
Fresh start without any history of butting heads with ownership, even if diplomatic (there are reports that Kraft and Bill disagreed on Brady/JG) Potential to grow legacy beyond one franchise. Affinity for Giants. Young QB, young roster and a cleaner cap.
To think Kraft would do anything to get Brady to stay and the most likely way to do that is by ensuring they don't lose McDaniels and making him the coach. Problem is if BB is not out of a contract I can't possibly see him firing him. How do you possibly justify dumping BB to ensure 43 year old Tom Brady plays one more year for your team? You can't justify that.
McDaniels is a key figure here - if Kraft wants him to be the successor, he may need to push Belichick out the door in the next week.
Pure speculation but I think some assurances had to be made to McDaniels for him to walk away from the Colts job and those assurances get messier now that Bills kid is a rising star in the coaching ranks.
Of the New York Giants something creates here from wishful thinking by Giants fans, or has there been some legitimate speculation from reliable sources that has spawned this idea.
I think the ship that brings Belichick to Giants sailed about 20 years ago, but who knows. For me I m focusing on the more realistic idea that Matt Rhule is going to be the next Giants coach
BB's contract situation is not known so the question of compensation is not relevant right now.
Contract or not, would Kraft allow BB to leave? Will McDaniels be named HC? Will Brady stay in NE? All questions that can lead to BB separating from NE.
There is only one team BB would coach if he left the Patriots and tha team happens to have a HC vacancy.
Another thing to keep in mind is Belichick’s age. I think this team desperately needs stability at head coach. If Rhule is successful, he could be the coach here for 15 years.
We’d absolutely win with Belichick, but we’ll be looking for another coach in 4-5 years most likely.
Don't want to get my hopes up, but it would be the best thing that could happen, it would bring out all supporters and the excitement would be over the top. The Parcells era with LT was the best era we ever had, 5 seasons in 8 with 10 or more wins a 6th with 9, 3 of those with 12, 13, and 14 in the regular season. Every game was exciting from 1984, only 1987 was disappointing with the strike ruining the season.
NE. Why would he leave? He still has talented team. The only reason for him leaving is a rift with ownership.
It is now or never. Things have aligned better than they ever will again.
Any of you make it stop people will get your wish if it does not happen this year. That said, they would be foolish to ignore the possible alignment.
What alignment?
Bill is believed to be an FA
Brady may be leaving. The Pats may be in decline.
Patriots have a successor (McDaniels) in place.
Bill still has a couple of years left in the tank.
Bill son is a couple of years away from HC and he may want to set his son up with a gig.
Giants have a vacancy
Bill is out of the playoffs early so they will not have to wait on him and miss out on other opportunities.
Giants have some young talent that Bill is known to like
It is believed that Bill likes the Giants organization
If it does not happen this year I, for one, will put it to bed.
this is the first time BB has been in the offseason when we were still trying to fill our coaching search. Its a looooooong shot but he at least isnt focusing on a playoff game to prepare for.
Lol!
This is a pipe dream guys.
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However many, I'll take 'em.
We'll see what happens now...
This is a pipe dream guys.
mara would tell DG to take a back seat and DG would be stll hold the role but everything would go through BB
Do you really think if BB wanted to come we wouldn't send DG to the basement...he can clean the stadium bathroooms for all i care.
Steve is on the line as well...
We'll see what happens now...
Weeks? More like years.
Go make him an offer he can't refuse.
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He comes here with Gettleman still here and so far involved in coaching interviews. He’d have to be fired.
This is a pipe dream guys.
mara would tell DG to take a back seat and DG would be stll hold the role but everything would go through BB
Do you really think if BB wanted to come we wouldn't send DG to the basement...he can clean the stadium bathroooms for all i care.
I don’t see Mara doing it. Tisch probably would have to be machavellian and force it.
I could see McDaniels getting Pats HC'ing job, BB leaving to NYG and Brady to Chargers..
Make this happen please. BB come home....
No. It’s the best kept secret in football.
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Many of us have been hammering at it for many weeks.
We'll see what happens now...
Weeks? More like years.
Go make him an offer he can't refuse.
Pathetic thunder stealers...post screencap of your sad self saying MAKE THE CALL, or GTFO
And this is the safest play for Mara. He can't be criticized for this move.
I guarantee you there will be people on this board who will say that we shouldn’t get BB if it means losing DG
This is a pipe dream guys.
LOL. Yeah, ownership is not going to pass on Bill Belichick for Dave fucking Gettleman. If Belichick is interested, they can reassign Gettleman.
And this is the safest play for Mara. He can't be criticized for this move.
+1 . well said
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He comes here with Gettleman still here and so far involved in coaching interviews. He’d have to be fired.
This is a pipe dream guys.
LOL. Yeah, ownership is not going to pass on Bill Belichick for Dave fucking Gettleman. If Belichick is interested, they can reassign Gettleman.
Seriously, the only thing that would possibly delay the Giants moving on BB would be Mara needing to change his pants because he shit himself with glee. There's nobody in this org worth sticking to if it costs you Belichick.
- Bill B
Oh, to bigblue5611_2
You’re sending VanPelt in your recruiting group? From the grave?
This is a pipe dream guys.
Um they would fired Gettleman in favor of Belichick in a heartbeat.
he would never go to Dallas and have Jerry overruling player decisions
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He comes here with Gettleman still here and so far involved in coaching interviews. He’d have to be fired.
This is a pipe dream guys.
LOL. Yeah, ownership is not going to pass on Bill Belichick for Dave fucking Gettleman. If Belichick is interested, they can reassign Gettleman.
Gettleman, from his own words, wasn't involved with the firing of Pat Shurmur. That was strictly coming from Ownership. DG is in no position to object to BB coming, and why should he? I'm sure BB and DG know each other, and working together won't be an issue.
Kraft in NE was in a quandry...he has NO QB if Brady leaves, and why should Brady stay if McDaniels is hired somewhere else? The best way for Kraft to keep Brady is to give the HC position to McDaniels. And my impression is that Kraft would much prefer to keep Tom Brady than keep Bill.
0.0% chance of Belichick going anywhere other than the Giants.
Kraft orders him to resign Brady
Belichick says FO and joins the Giants
It’s fun to dream but I don’t think this happens. But agree you have to put in a call and see if there is any possibility.
A thousand times yes - if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen - but at least now, we'll know it wasn't just because of the timing.
Kraft orders him to resign Brady
Belichick says FO and joins the Giants
Brady is a free agent, can't be franchised. It's not up to Belichick to resign Brady, Brady needs to WANT to come back. IMO, he won't come back if McDaniels leaves.
Now that is something I may actually buy a PSL to see
Hope I'm wrong
Hope I'm wrong
Probably not. But there’s clearly an opening here. If BB likes Jones and you’re willing to give him total control then it’s not that hard of a sell.
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Belichick wants to get rid of Brady
Kraft orders him to resign Brady
Belichick says FO and joins the Giants
Brady is a free agent, can't be franchised. It's not up to Belichick to resign Brady, Brady needs to WANT to come back. IMO, he won't come back if McDaniels leaves.
Brady would come back to the Pats if they’ll have him, I think. The question is whether Belichick wants to try it with Brady instead of going with a younger QB, I can also easily see Belichick leave and Mcdaniels elevated to Pats head coach.
Kraft orders him to resign Brady
Belichick says FO and joins the Giants
I don't think this is right. Kraft only offered a one year deal going into 2019. So he sees the finish line and there will be no mandate to re-sign Brady...
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Belichick wants to get rid of Brady
Kraft orders him to resign Brady
Belichick says FO and joins the Giants
I don't think this is right. Kraft only offered a one year deal going into 2019. So he sees the finish line and there will be no mandate to re-sign Brady...
Except we don’t know if that was BB or Kraft. If it becomes a true “me or him” scenario, do you think Kraft chooses BB over Tom? Cause I don’t.
Fresh start without any history of butting heads with ownership, even if diplomatic (there are reports that Kraft and Bill disagreed on Brady/JG) Potential to grow legacy beyond one franchise. Affinity for Giants. Young QB, young roster and a cleaner cap.
Oh you talked to him? You guys going to see a movie tomorrow?
Pure speculation but I think some assurances had to be made to McDaniels for him to walk away from the Colts job and those assurances get messier now that Bills kid is a rising star in the coaching ranks.
I think the ship that brings Belichick to Giants sailed about 20 years ago, but who knows. For me I m focusing on the more realistic idea that Matt Rhule is going to be the next Giants coach
I’m sure some clowns here would still complain somehow. I would imagine something like, “He’s too old and only won because of Brady”.
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All bbi in agreement with, would be with Lil Bill
I’m sure some clowns here would still complain somehow. I would imagine something like, “He’s too old and only won because of Brady”.
More like
“This means we have to fire Gettleman which means another rebuild”
But I don’t believe Bill B will coach much longer. Maybe a couple of years, but I would expect he would like to be Director of Football Ops and GM.
I assume BB is still under contract, right?
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can remove DG's key card from the system.
I guarantee you there will be people on this board who will say that we shouldn’t get BB if it means losing DG
LOL no.
I assume BB is still under contract, right?
BB's contract situation is not known so the question of compensation is not relevant right now.
Contract or not, would Kraft allow BB to leave? Will McDaniels be named HC? Will Brady stay in NE? All questions that can lead to BB separating from NE.
There is only one team BB would coach if he left the Patriots and tha team happens to have a HC vacancy.
Improbable? Yes. Impossible? No!
We’d absolutely win with Belichick, but we’ll be looking for another coach in 4-5 years most likely.
There is a reason for him to leave.
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It is now or never. Things have aligned better than they ever will again.
Any of you make it stop people will get your wish if it does not happen this year. That said, they would be foolish to ignore the possible alignment.
What alignment?
Bill is believed to be an FA
Brady may be leaving. The Pats may be in decline.
Patriots have a successor (McDaniels) in place.
Bill still has a couple of years left in the tank.
Bill son is a couple of years away from HC and he may want to set his son up with a gig.
Giants have a vacancy
Bill is out of the playoffs early so they will not have to wait on him and miss out on other opportunities.
Giants have some young talent that Bill is known to like
It is believed that Bill likes the Giants organization
If it does not happen this year I, for one, will put it to bed.